Trembling Hand
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You would be surprised at how little the numbers drop off during winter.Further to this, shooters should only be allowed in the parks during off seasons, i.e not xmas or easter. In fact winter is ideal time, and when the brats are back at school.
Well there is your answer. Bring in more walkers and the feral animals will be driven out to the state forests.Any of those suggestion are unnecessary as hunters will only be in the least accessible parts of the least used parks. Feral animals avoid contact with people in most cases, so hunters will not want to hunt in popular areas.
Well there is your answer. Bring in more walkers and the feral animals will be driven out to the state forests.:
Walkers should be able to take care of themselves, otherwise they should stick to a safe city park or beach.
gg
Good evening dumb and stupid PEOPLE.
I read this and thought, what stupid people the people that posted before me,
the dills that will flap their jaws BOFORE knowing what they are even talking about !
I honestly thought my fellow Australia would have had far more brains than to do such a stupid thing.
Now before the dumb and stupid attack me, reread the first post which you all can running in for with your un eductated and dumb comments,
"I'm not up to speed on the bill, but this seems like a stupid idea"
NOT UP TO SPEED ....... ??????
AND it would appear so are the other posters before me.
Sick, maybe sad what people will write without knowing what the bl...dy hell they are even writing about ot the facts of the situation
UB
[B]what type of moron can get satisfaction from blowing the brains out of an innocent and defenceless[/B]
TOTAL B/S !
I would love the day, to see you standing there with sh...running down the back of your legs
WITH a 100kg boar deciding if he wants to eat you, just standing there grinding his teeth to make sure they are well sharpened for the job.
TOO much b/s from people who DON'T have a clue on Earth what they are talking about... AGAIN !
UB
ps, where do you think pigs grown and breed, yep, right there in a so called National Park.
There, any other silly post playing with the facts to siut the poster!
I realise this, but people will wander into very remote areas, and if someone does, by a quark of fate get shot, then imagine the uproar.better to cover all avenues of escape, and put the onus back on the non-shooters.
IMO there should be a special licensing course to shoot in national parks to weed out the idiots.
there ALREADY IS, the same licence as has to be obtained for shooting in State Foests !
!
PLEASE
show me the study,
the facts
or something to point your point.
Let them go to Africa and shot at caged/fenced animals to stroke their egos. They will achieve nothing in national parks just like they have achieved nothing in state forests. Other than giving rangers something to do ie replace signs.
T Hand,
its time, its time to put up or shut up, as its said,
"Its clear that shooters in national parks will solve no feral animal problem"
PLEASE
show me the study,
the facts
or something to point your point.
or if you cannot, throw your cards in and zip up,
with the kindest of regards,
UB
come to think of it, I've had enough of these pointless posts that talk total rubbish without any clear knowledge of the facts...... thanks boys and girls.
You mean lions, tigers, elephants, rhinos - like the former British aristocracy did just to prove they were cleverer with a gun than an animal in the wild.....
I don't think its really a matter that much for safety. its about use of public lands in an environment that is conducive for all to have access. No one wants to go to our great national parks for whatever type of relaxation they are there to enjoy and have the sound of gun shots ping off over the hill.I would say the odds of someone getting shot are so low, that if you were worried about that, you would never get in a car. You would be much more likely killed in a car crash getting to the park, or even shot by a criminal with an illegal weapon in Sydney, or have a tree fall on you while hiking. This is the same system which has operated in NSW state forests for 3 years with no incidents.
That is just silly logic. Then we should make the speed limit 250K/h. That's will stop the illegal speeding.There is illegal hunting in national parks now, and what is proposed with licenced hunters there would stop this, as people committing illegal acts don't want to be caught.
National Parks even put out a study I have seen, that stated hunting even though illegal, has prevented an increases in feral pig populations in Kosciusko National Park. So hunting takes place now it is just criminals doing it. Who do you think would be safest, a criminal who has an illegal weapon, and probably never had a gun license, or a licensed trained person, who has had to book to hunt there.
Here is an attempt, on the efficiency of rec hunters controlling feral pop
Arguing with you on a subject I would rather not, just because you came across as a bit of a self righteous tosser in your first few posts, is something I would rather not do. Worse would be to provide any damaging material from here on in, just because you start calling for proof or calling me a liar
Could you provide it because it sound like BS. the numbers that needs to be killed for population control are huge. Rec shooters haven't a hope in hell of achieving these numbers. especially a few illegal ones.
The demography of a sub-alpine population of feral pigs was examined at Kosciusko National Park in south-eastern New South Wales. Reproductive data and age structures indicated a seasonal pattern of breeding, most births occurring in summer and autumn. It is proposed that a decreasing availability of high protein food in the autumn and winter months caused reduced rates of conception. Sows produced 0.84 litters per year with postnatal mortality as high as 85%. The population appeared relatively stable at a density of 1.6 pigs kg-2. Hunting, although illegal in a national park, removed 4.4-15.4% of pigs each year.
The invasive species council is a voluntary organisation run by anti hunting people especially Carol Booth who has a doctorate is in Psychology. They never provide solutions just critisms, which is easy when they dont have to provide results.
I have not seen them even claim to be impartial but their record speaks for itself. They even made ridiculous claims in that anti hunting piece such as most of that 6,000 feral animals killed did not count because they were rabbits. Last time I checked rabbits are a serious pest which breed very quickly. Those several thousand rabbits would breed into 100,s of thousands if not controlled.
Barry
It would be a shame if you don't come back. You personal attacks on everyone will be missed. Your lack of any reason or fact in your posts will be missed . You inability to discuss a topic in a civil manner will be missed You lack of any positive persuasion for your point of view will be greatly missed And your assumption that everyone is far sillier than you will be missed.
Oh its also a shame that you will not comment on the list of studies put together by the ISC that backs up my post.: Just like you wanted, facts except they contradict your opinion.
I think it was more a claim that rec shooting, is not the best method for controlling pest numbers on public land.
Are they anti hunting because they simply disagree with your opinion?
Not only my opinion, The NSW game council employ wildlife biologests and produce scintific results showing the effects hunting in state forests.
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