Schapelle Corby - Innocent or Guilty?

[CanOz]

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Just listen to you lot! What if that was your daughter, would you at least want to ensure she got a fair trial?

If she's guilty then fine, but can you be sure? What credibility does an Indonesian court have?

Innocent until proven guilty by a credible court i say!

 

[constable]

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Just listen to you lot! What if that was your daughter, would you at least want to ensure she got a fair trial?

If she's guilty then fine, but can you be sure? What credibility does an Indonesian court have?

Innocent until proven guilty by a credible court i say!

Well i'd have to ground her and probably dock her pocket money for a couple of weeks at least!!
After that i'd be making sure my name was some where on the movie royalties!!

 

[Snakey]

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Just listen to you lot! What if that was your daughter, would you at least want to ensure she got a fair trial?

If she's guilty then fine, but can you be sure? What credibility does an Indonesian court have?

Innocent until proven guilty by a credible court i say!

I wouldnt teach my daughter to sell drugs :

 

[BIG BWACULL]

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Innocent until proven guilty by a credible court i say!

I think its more like Guilty till proven innocent

 

[nomore4s]

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Just listen to you lot! What if that was your daughter, would you at least want to ensure she got a fair trial?

If she's guilty then fine, but can you be sure? What credibility does an Indonesian court have?

Innocent until proven guilty by a credible court i say!

Plenty of credibility in Indonesia I would imagine.
If the situation had been reversed and she was caught coming into Aust in the same circumstances I'm pretty sure she would have been convicted. She was caught red handed and admitted the bag was hers before it was searched, wouldn't think that too many people would get off in Aust in those circumstances no matter what excuse you came up with unless you were able to prove it, which she was unable to do.

 

[bingk6]

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She repeatedly banged the top of head with the palm of her hand... this means she made choices and decisions that she now regrets... selling drugs was her decision... If she was innocent she would've most likely put her hands on her cheeks in disbelief...

I'll agree with your interpretation of her body language. Its the old saying, action speaks louder than words.

 

[robert toms]

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Tonight on channel 7 today tonight ?...an ex friend of Schapelle Corby explains more about her drug arrest in Bali....Channel 7 say all will be revealed !
Why do you cast doubts on the reliability of the Indonesian justice system....saya tidak mengerti !

 

[CanOz]

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Plenty of credibility in Indonesia I would imagine.
If the situation had been reversed and she was caught coming into Aust in the same circumstances I'm pretty sure she would have been convicted. She was caught red handed and admitted the bag was hers before it was searched, wouldn't think that too many people would get off in Aust in those circumstances no matter what excuse you came up with unless you were able to prove it, which she was unable to do.

If the situation had been reveresed, and you had Indonesia admit to a major smuggling operation by the baggage handllers in thier airports, i think the Australian government would make sure all of the evidense was looked at properly. Do we know that has happened?

She admitted the bag was hers, big deal.....don't you get it...this could happen to anyone.

In a civil society you are not required to prove your innocence, but to defend it. It is up to the court to prove you guilty, beyond a reasonable doubt. In the eyes of the Indo courts and the people she was gulity as soon as she got off that plane. She never had a chance at a fair trial, never looked like it!

Obviously this says something about Indonesian law...its not civil, and i doubt credible.

Wake up.

 

[BIG BWACULL]

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Why do you cast doubts on the reliability of the Indonesian justice system....saya tidak mengerti !

Is that last bit an Indonesian quote, the judges name or an Indonesian dish? Please help am not being disrespectful.

 

[chops_a_must]

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Just listen to you lot! What if that was your daughter, would you at least want to ensure she got a fair trial?

If she's guilty then fine, but can you be sure? What credibility does an Indonesian court have?

Innocent until proven guilty by a credible court i say!

OK. The smiling assasin was innocent.

 

[greggy]

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All I'm going to say on this issue is that I'm glad that the drugs that she was caught with didn't go through into the hands of the sinister drug dealers. Anyone going to Indonesia now know what to expect, a very tough line on drugs. Anyone stupid enough to smuggle drugs should think again before travelling to Indonesia, or Singapore for that matter.

 

[Knobby22]

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Read the facts! They are freely available.

Her brother was in drugs, her sister was in drugs, her Dad was in drugs.

The drugs were specially packed to look like a boogie board which would have taken hours.
The drugs most probably came from Queensland. Australia offered to test the drugs to find out their point of origin but her sister refused.

The government conveniantly lost all the video evidence (in two major airports!) which would have showed her carrying the drugs. I am an expert in this area and know that video evidence in airports is kept for fifteen years.

She was caught with the drugs, she stated they were hers.

The argument that her bag got mixed up doesn't wash. Why would you send marihuana through two airports past heaps of security when you could drive up for nothing? Queensland has more of the stuff than NSW anyway.

Her sister was obvously the drug contact. Aussie weed is worth heaps more in Bali as it is 10 to 20 times stronger. It goes on.

I suggest you look her up in the ABC and The Age and see it all written down by good investigative reporters.

I feel sorry for her as she appears to have been the nicest one in her family but let her siblings convince her to do it. If she didn't know, a slight possibility, then her brother and sister did. She should drop them in it.

At some point, when the time is right, she will admit her culpability so she can obtain a Presidents pardon. That cannot occur until the Bali 9 is dealt with.

 

[Knobby22]

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Some reading:

http://www.abc.net.au/7.30/content/2006/s1805957.htm
http://www.farisqc.observationdeck.org/?cat=76
http://corbyisguilty.blogspot.com/2005_05_01_corbyisguilty_archive.html
http://www.hightimes.com/ht/news/content.php?bid=870&aid=24

From Sidney Morning Herald

Miranda Devine (SMH 24/4)..

“However, for those who question why anyone would take coals to Newcastle, ie, pot to Bali, a long-term Australian expat in Bali offers an explanation: “High quality hydroponic marijuana is worth its weight in gold in Bali,” he says. “A product bought wholesale in Australia for $4000 a kilogram becomes worth $US15,750 [$20,200]. Nice pay for a holiday in the sun.”

 

[The Mint Man]

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You know what is really funny.
You walk down any street in any part of bali at night and count the number of times that you are offered drugs... anything you want, you can get it.
when I was there a few months ago I was asked if I wanted drugs every single night I went out, up to 3 times for every 20 paces I walked!!! this in a packed street, the main drag, everyday.
half the time, if you did buy off them, they would go and tell their police mate who would then arrest you in which case they probably take some of the drugs you bought and re-sell them.

I ask you this, what is Indonesia doing about these people?

 

[greggy]

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Just listen to you lot! What if that was your daughter, would you at least want to ensure she got a fair trial?

If she's guilty then fine, but can you be sure? What credibility does an Indonesian court have?

Innocent until proven guilty by a credible court i say!

My daughter wouldn't be stupid enough to smuggle drugs in the first place.

 

[The Mint Man]

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Read the facts! They are freely available.

Her brother was in drugs, her sister was in drugs, her Dad was in drugs.

The drugs were specially packed to look like a boogie board which would have taken hours.
The drugs most probably came from Queensland. Australia offered to test the drugs to find out their point of origin but her sister refused. .

If they were that involved in drugs and they were that big, then where were they putting all the money?
I would be checking out the fish and chip shop they owned. (the books)

 

[Prospector]

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The importation of drugs is far worse than the peddlars on the street! And in some cases they are setting you up for an arrest anyway. And it is most likely made of green grass and not the kind you would smoke anyway.

Stupidity here and not innocence. And it wouldnt be my kids because they are far too wordly wise to try to import/export the stuff.

 

[2020hindsight]

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One minor point - had she confessed, (and she may yet I suppose) - but that would have been the best chance of a Presidential pardon. Was she guilty. Damned if I know. Massive penalty for her sins though. (you get less here for murder). .
I agree with Canaus : credibility of Indonesian court comes into play here - Innocent until proven guilty by a credible court surely.

Another bit of trivia. I know of people (god fearing christian types) who the local police have tried to frame in SE Asian countries by plants of drugs.

The one I'm really sorry for is Scott Rush's dad, who informed the Aus Fed police - hopefully to stop him leaving the country (as I understand it) - but that was beyond their ability to react in time (who knows), and instead they report it to Indonesia. And in the end, all this seems to have absolutely no weight in his sentence.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Scott_Rush has the following:-

Scott Anthony Rush (born December 3, 1985 [1]) is a former Australian labourer from Chelmer, Queensland, a western suburb of Brisbane, arrested on April 17, 2005 at Ngurah Rai Airport in Bali, Indonesia with heroin weighing 1.3 kg taped to his legs under his clothing. It was Rush's first trip to Bali. Rush was 19 at the time of his arrest. He is currently studying the Indonesian language.

On February 13, 2006, Rush, who appeared in court for sentencing wearing a wooden crucifix around his neck, was sentenced to life imprisonment[2] Rush appealed this sentence, and on September 6, 2006, his sentence was upgraded to the death penalty.

Last week, 06Feb07, SMH had:- http://www.smh.com.au/news/World/Ru...-Nine-challenge/2007/02/06/1170524085650.html

Rush seeks to join Bali Nine challenge
February 6, 2007 - 4:44PM
Lawyers for Bali Nine drug mule Scott Rush have asked that his legal challenge against Indonesia's death penalty be joined with a similar appeal by the two ringleaders of the failed heroin smuggling ring.

Rush, 21, and ringleaders Andrew Chan and Myuran Sukumaran, have lodged separate challenges with Indonesia's Constitutional Court, arguing the country's constitution enshrines their right to life. They are challenging the constitutional validity of the narcotics law under which they were sentenced..... etc

PS - Never appeal your sentence in Indonesia - seems to make the judge angry.
PPS Maybe Canbera will come to the rescue? instead of death sentence, life in prison in Aus? election year after all?

 

[insider]

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GUILTY...

 

[sam76]

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GUILTY...

yep, 100%