Schapelle Corby - Innocent or Guilty?

[Knobby22]

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20 years.
Listening to the ABC coverage, I am sure she is guilty.
Channel 9 have a lot to answer for in their biased coverage.
They have treated this in the same way they do 60 minutes, pick a side and bias everything towards it.

I feel very sorry for her, but if you can't do the time, don't do the crime.

 

[Aussiejeff]

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Somehow, I don't think we have heard the last of this case...... whatever the "truth" may be. Too many media bucks have been spent on the circus to just drop it now.

Sigh...


AJ

 

[Milk Man]

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20 years.
Listening to the ABC coverage, I am sure she is guilty.
Channel 9 have a lot to answer for in their biased coverage.
They have treated this in the same way they do 60 minutes, pick a side and bias everything towards it.

I feel very sorry for her, but if you can't do the time, don't do the crime.

guilty?
have you been witness to the drug trade in Bali?
i'll say it once, i'll say it a thousand times- what you buy here for $200 you get in Bali for $2 there is no reasoning that can support taking weed there- especially when you know that drug trafficking carries the death penalty.
furthermore there is no difference in the potency to what is over here.

 

[sam76]

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the "Kryptonite' bike locks can be opened with a bic ball point pen.

Don't call airport security. Call Aus consulate first.

 

[Porper]

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what you buy here for $200 you get in Bali for $2 there is no reasoning that can support taking weed there- :

Fair enough, but if she didn't do it somebody else must have, so it must be worth smuggling, which sort of eliminates that argument.

The judge said that it was clear cut and she was definately guilty, so how do we know different, we don't.

This may just help in making people think twice before doing this type of thing (whether she is guilty or not).I agree with what was said earlier, you do the crime, be prepared to do the time.:iagree:

 

[Smurf1976]

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20 years.
Channel 9 have a lot to answer for in their biased coverage.
They have treated this in the same way they do 60 minutes, pick a side and bias everything towards it.

No comment on the Corby case but totally agreed that Channel 9 are biased in the extreme. OK, there are exceptions where they do a good job but in general they don't IMO.

Pick a side, bias everything to that side. Then come back a year later, pick the other side, and bias everything to it. Then repeat the process. Absolute junk reporting with no real research. The other commercial networks are no better and in many cases worse. I have long noted that the ABC also displays a predictable bias when it comes to anything concerning politics and especially the environment.

Thank heavens for the internet and the free availability of diverse reporting and comment.

 

[Mofra]

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Gudday,

It is interesting that no-one on this thread has mentioned that the bag containing the marijuana was not dusted for fingerprints. The judge gave one reason for the guilty verdict as Corby not being able to say who did place the marijuana in her bag. In most countries, these two facts would cause the case for the prosecution to be thrown out as compromised.

Also note the PM press conference said nothing. Surely this is an indication that the Aust government is working behind the scenes for a solution that placates the (opposing) popular opinions of both nations.

 

[Milk Man]

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Fair enough, but if she didn't do it somebody else must have, so it must be worth smuggling, which sort of eliminates that argument.

there are two possibilities to explain the drugs being present in her bag

1) the drugs were bound for sydney and the guy on the other end failed to pick them up.

2) anti-aussie extremists planted the drugs there in indo because they wanted to see an aussie get executed.

probably the former. others have come forward to testify that they found drugs in their bags in Bali so you can make up your own minds from that.

but a man convinced against his will is of the same opinion still.

 

[Porper]

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there are two possibilities to explain the drugs being present in her bag

1) the drugs were bound for sydney and the guy on the other end failed to pick them up.

2) anti-aussie extremists planted the drugs there in indo because they wanted to see an aussie get executed.

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How about the third possibility ...............she is guilty as charged.I am not saying she is, but out of the three scenarios, I think the third is the most likely.

Are there any Anti Aussie extremists, seems a bit far fetched to me, if it had been an American then maybe.

 

[Smurf1976]

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Are there any Anti Aussie extremists, seems a bit far fetched to me, if it had been an American then maybe.

Aren't America and Australia pretty much the same in terms of the issues likely to upset extremists? As in an attack on an Australian is near enough to an attack on an American and vice versa?

 

[It's Snake Pliskin]

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Are there any Anti Aussie extremists, seems a bit far fetched to me, if it had been an American then maybe.

You've only got to do your research and you'll see the amount of racism towards Australians in Indonesia, in our own country for that matter. Extremists, yes, highly likely to target Australians abroad, but to plant drugs in their luggage seems a little weeeeird!

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[tech/a]

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This raised my eyebrow.

From this mornings Sunday Mail.

"Vasu Rasiah one of her legal team after a meeting of 2 1/2 hrs emerged to say---"Schapelle is very emotional---blah blah--- She is under going deep shock,she is very emotional and her moods change--sometimes she is even joking--Five or 10 years you can understand but 20 years she just cant comprehend the timeframe."


HOLD the PHONE!!! if your innocent you couldnt understand ANY CONVICTION!!

She could understand 5 or 10 years---yeh --- why??

 

[DTM]

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Was there any evidence mentioned in the news? I haven't seen evidence on TV showing why she should be innocent. My judgement only comes down to two things, (1)what I saw on TV, and that was the custom officer's statement as compared to hers, and I would back the custom officer because he was more believable. (2) How could she not notice that her boogy board back had a 4kg stash of Marijuana in it when she picked her bags up???? It would be a sizeable lump so how could she not see it????

It's a pity but I feel that a lot of people have jumped on the band wagon without assessing the evidence with Schappelle. With so much press coverage, I'm sure the Judges were forced into a corner to assess the case on its on merits ie evidence. I'm sure they wouldn't have been so harsh if it wasn't publicised as much as it was.

There is a distant possibility that the drugs were planted in her bag, but not an overwhelming or convincing reason. In our own court system, Shapelle would have been convicted and case closed long time ago.

Just my 2 bob's worth.

 

[Milk Man]

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It's a pity but I feel that a lot of people have jumped on the band wagon without assessing the evidence with Schappelle.

spose its a matter of opinion.
i could be a bit one eyed but only for the fact that taking drugs to Bali escapes my logic.
its like taking ice to alaska with the threat of death if caught.
and believe me thats not as much of an overstatement as you think.
i employ backpackers so i get it from the horses mouth - just go down to your local hostel and ask them.

 

[DTM]

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spose its a matter of opinion.
i could be a bit one eyed but only for the fact that taking drugs to Bali escapes my logic.

Totally agree with you which makes it hard to understand but can't rule out the possibility that she may have intended it that way. My viewpoint only came down to mainly the testimonies of the customs officer and Schapelle's on TV.

I also can't understand some of young guy's reasoning from the 9 Aussies that were recently caught trying to smuggle drugs into Australia??!!?? No logic in that and now their whole lives are gone. Such a tragic loss for their families.

 

[Knobby22]

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From the Age today.

10 pieces of evidence that went against her
May 29, 2005

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1. The vacuum-sealed marijuana was in a boogie board bag that Corby admitted owning.

2. Customs official Gusti Nyoman Winata said he asked Corby to open the bag, but she unzipped only a front pocket. "When I opened it a bit, she said: 'No'," Mr Winata said. "I asked: 'Why?', and she said: 'I have some,' and looked confused." Mr Winata added that she blocked his hand to stop him opening the main zip.

3. Corby disputed Mr Winata's version, but there was no CCTV system in operation to support her denial.

4. A second customs official said Corby admitted owning the drugs.

5. Corby failed to notice the bag's extra weight. Her excuse was that the bag's handle had been broken on the way to Bali, meaning she had to drag it.

6. While Australian baggage handlers have since been linked to an airport cocaine-smuggling ring, which was in operation on the date Corby flew to Bali, there has never been any suggestion or evidence of them trafficking marijuana.

7. A drug dealer employing baggage handlers would be highly unlikely to smuggle four kilograms of marijuana into Brisbane airport and then into a stranger's bag, just to send it on to Sydney. Such a task would further require another handler at Sydney to sneak it out of the bag and hide it while attempting to get it out of the airport. As road haulage experts have confirmed, smug-glers could avoid this by sending it by road.

Prosecutors claim the plastic bag was the same size and shape as the boogie board bag, suggesting it had been organised to fit, as opposed to being stuffed in by someone else, such as baggage handlers.

9. Hydroponic marijuana is highly sought after among cashed-up expatriates and tourists in Bali.

10. Had Corby been aware of the drugs and had her bag been properly secured with a padlock, there would have been no chance of her claiming that the marijuana had been planted in her bag.

-Eamon Duff

 

[Porper]

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From the Age today.

10 pieces of evidence that went against her
May 29, 2005

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1. The vacuum-sealed marijuana was in a boogie board bag that Corby admitted owning.

2. Customs official Gusti Nyoman Winata said he asked Corby to open the bag, but she unzipped only a front pocket. "When I opened it a bit, she said: 'No'," Mr Winata said. "I asked: 'Why?', and she said: 'I have some,' and looked confused." Mr Winata added that she blocked his hand to stop him opening the main zip.

3. Corby disputed Mr Winata's version, but there was no CCTV system in operation to support her denial.

4. A second customs official said Corby admitted owning the drugs.

5. Corby failed to notice the bag's extra weight. Her excuse was that the bag's handle had been broken on the way to Bali, meaning she had to drag it.

6. While Australian baggage handlers have since been linked to an airport cocaine-smuggling ring, which was in operation on the date Corby flew to Bali, there has never been any suggestion or evidence of them trafficking marijuana.

7. A drug dealer employing baggage handlers would be highly unlikely to smuggle four kilograms of marijuana into Brisbane airport and then into a stranger's bag, just to send it on to Sydney. Such a task would further require another handler at Sydney to sneak it out of the bag and hide it while attempting to get it out of the airport. As road haulage experts have confirmed, smug-glers could avoid this by sending it by road.

Prosecutors claim the plastic bag was the same size and shape as the boogie board bag, suggesting it had been organised to fit, as opposed to being stuffed in by someone else, such as baggage handlers.

9. Hydroponic marijuana is highly sought after among cashed-up expatriates and tourists in Bali.

10. Had Corby been aware of the drugs and had her bag been properly secured with a padlock, there would have been no chance of her claiming that the marijuana had been planted in her bag.

-Eamon Duff

Ok, so these are all against her, has anybody got any evidence or arguments for her ? By that I don't mean just posting she is innocent and why would she smuggle it into Bali, nice girl and all that clap trap.

She has lots of supporters so lets here the evidence.

 

[Mofra]

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Porper,

Why didn't the Indonesian posecution dust the bag containing marijuana for fingerprints? If they did and Shapelle's prints were found on it, it would have been an open and shut case - especially because the burden of proof in Indonesia lies with the defence, not the prosecution. The destruction of evidence causes too much doubt.

 

[Porper]

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Very good point Mofra, I don't know why they didn't check for fingerprints.Maybe the reasoning was that she was unlikely to leave fingerprints incase she got caught, but I agree it would have definately proved her guilt had they found some.

I must admit there hasn't been the coverage here in New Zealand that the Aussies have had, so I don't know too much about the facts, but then again the Indonesians do things very differently to us.

Unless she admits it we will probably never know the truth.

 

[krisbarry]

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I don't know why they didn't check for fingerprints. but then again the Indonesians do things very differently to us.

Third World Country mentality I guess.

Although, so many stuff ups from the Australian side too...no proof of baggage weight, no screening procedures for baggage, no security in place for the safety of travellers baggage (Until now). No security check points for baggage handlers, they seem to walk in off the street and start work etc. etc. So many doubts....Indo law locks up, Aussie law would release.