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SBB - Sunbridge Group

But I am sure the supporters will think he's just downramping to secure some cheap share himself.

LOL! Thats gold! I enjoyed the excerpt from the article, i dont subscribe to AFR so I couldnt see the whole article but at least i gor the flavour from McLovin's post.
 
LOL! Thats gold! I enjoyed the excerpt from the article, i dont subscribe to AFR so I couldnt see the whole article but at least i gor the flavour from McLovin's post.
On HC there's a thread called Sunbridge Shareholders. Post #259 on 6 Feb 2015 at 8:36am might give you a more elongated version of the article.
 
On HC there's a thread called Sunbridge Shareholders. Post #259 on 6 Feb 2015 at 8:36am might give you a more elongated version of the article.

oh thanks for that....NOT! Just wasted an hour of my life wading through that thread, its like days of our lives on there!
 
Oh, hello there...


http://www.afr.com/p/opinion/xpd_soccer_gear_group_in_ipo_66UxyWqG1b7MRbls13sgkN

Now, who was Andrew Plympton also a director of?

I also note they're from the same province in China as SBB.

ETA: Website is here...

http://chinaxpd.com/en/content/?233.html
 
Let me guess, they have a heap of cash, and they will (nope) might (nope) probably won't (nope) will not (yep) pay a big dividend to all their Aussie friends?

Do they also have a heap of "franchised" stores that they need to buy back (most likely from undisclosed related parties at prices way above market value so they can stack their balance sheet with intangible assets)?

Hmmm, just don't mention seed investors.... and we'll be all lollipops and rainbows.
 
When I look at SBB, I thought its a dot china listing just like the dot com day
China get plenty of coverage due to its population and the potential market

The key word here is potential

so any business with the magic Chinese Market words in the prospectus would get plenty of punters in

They wont be the last of dot china as the bull raging ahead
 
Awesome sleuthing McLovin! Perhaps Hempton may be your man to let know? He has made a career out of shorting China frauds after all..

Thanks, hesk. I suspect it's too small. I really wish the business media would pay a bit of attention to this sort of stuff, and as skc says, the ASX should really look a bit closer at these floats.
 
This deal is so good, the number is very sweat and the lead manager DON'T want to underwrite
that said it all

http://www.afr.com/business/manufac...-taking-a-kick-at-asx-listing-20150315-142abv

The financials look more believable than SBB's... XPD doesn't have a huge amount of cash sitting on the balance sheet for a start.

But here's the kicker that I found amazing. P. 68 of the prospectus.


RMB29.8m = ~A$6.2m. Cash at the end of half year was A$3.95m. So the company decdied, before IPO, to sink all it's cash and borrow a bit more, and "invest" into Henan Yuanlong... which Google suggests is an aluminum factory of some sort.

http://henanyl.com/about/aboutus.html

I hope those interested in investing in the Chinese sportswear industry also happened to be looking for investment in the aluminum industry at the same time.
 
The financials look more believable than SBB's... XPD doesn't have a huge amount of cash sitting on the balance sheet for a start.

They've learnt the lesson of having huge cash balances.

Unless they've reinvented the shoe, how do you get 5 fold increase in sales in 3 years with those ridiculously fat margins? Oh wait, of course...


Just amazing they can do that and have a employee expense of $60k for the HY to 30/6, and a marketing spend of $336k for the same period.

Of course it begs the usual question: Why would you ever think of selling off a portion of this money tree!?

I hope Shan Shan has her cheque book ready.
 
Had a look at XPD recently, great story and all...

They sure know how to bait it right!

I think the key here is Mr Jiang Ting who has served with:

XXL AU
SBB AU
PEZ AU
CHI NSX
and now XPB AU

All of them had some very nice looking IPOs with many similarities
- Tiny raising, founders holding 70%+ with escrow
- Very profitable businesses requiring funding to expand to meet demand and growth
- With the exception of XXL, an incredibly wide raising range (eg. 5-15m) in an effort to take all comers with open arms
- Got oodles of cash, the aus raising is for 'prestige' and 'trustworthiness' since ASX is 'well regulated'
- Outrageously handsome fees to advisers
- Grant Thornton auditing with a blindfold on (http://rogermontgomery.com/no-more-chinese-junk/)

XXL announcements/share price makes for a fine drama imo
 

Unfortunately for SBB holders, the company isn't listed on the Shanghai exchange instead... they might have been brought up by the crazy rising tide there otherwise.

I think the most likely longer term (3-5 years) outcome for SBB is that, all the numbers stay OK, no one really proves them to be dodgy or solid one way or and other, and they eventually generate so little interest and volume that they will trade like several other Chinese stocks (like CIK, CMC, RIS, TYO etc) on the market.

No volume, super wide spread, not a good place to be.

P.S. The latest announcements by FTH and NCO are also worrying.
 
Interesting article on AFR about Chinese companies looking to list in ASX.

http://www.afr.com/markets/equity-m...-for-asx-listings-at-any-cost-20160224-gn32nh


 
Looks like the ASX might at last be looking into XPD so SBB may be next!
 
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