And what do we do with the dreaded "de factos "? Are they another "Non Gold Standard" relationship that the State and Church should take an interest in ?
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We don't legislate for them to be labelled "married" that's what. We continue to call it what it is "de facto", which, by the way, has an amazing capacity not to use pinky bits pleasure as its core legal reason for being..... just like marriage currently is, but won't be for long as it gets redefined as a coming together of genitals, vaginas and poop chutes.
If the Yes vote comes through, and the law changes, just realise that IT WILL NOT AFFECT YOU, and life will go on as normal.
Nice one Tisme. Right down their with your standards.
I reckon you should change you moniker and get rid of the "A" . Seems so much more appropriate.
You know we could find any amount of salacious hetro sexual piccies on the net. Should we post some of these to poison the case for "Gold Standard" marriages ? Or is that particular exercise only a one way street? (Yes we already know the answer.)
Grow up Tizzie. Your embarassing yourself badly
Tisme you put up an all male pornagraphic pic to "somehow" make a point about SSM and poison the conversation. The most obvious response was "would a similar Male/Female pr0n picture somehow degrade Gold Standard marriages ? "
That wasn't a "grown up argument". That was poisionous rubbish. In any "grown up space" you would be ditched as a drop kick and really, your judgement would be seriously questioned.
It was pathetic. Honestly, I think you should take a break from ASF and consider what type of arguments represent anything appropriate to the discussion. Your taking this discussion into the cellars. I believe it is unacceptable.
We already had a war. Didn't do much for us did it? We are now a terrorist & nuclear target and many of our freedoms have been confiscated by Govt paranoia. And lil' Johnny gets a presidential freedom badge for it. Nice one Howard!O.k Let's give same sex couples equal rights, let's move on to the next headland, what is the age of consent?
The greens want the voting age moved down to 16 years of age.
Then where do we move on from there?
Yipee, here we go, here we go.
We really do need a war, people are becoming too bored, lazy and without focus.IMO
That already happens here in Western Sydney. It's not what you think it is. Someone drops a coin and half the population drop to their knees looking for it. Drop your wallet here and you have to kick it all the way to the nearest neighborhood-watch zone before picking it up.Is polygamy next? (look away Tink)
There is a common default YES vote (except Tony A.) for friends, relatives, acquaintences, know someone etc. and for no other reason. It is also incredible the weight gay pollies, gay celebrities and gay (sympathetic) business leaders have placed on this debate considering less than 5% of the population are homo.You have NFI what you have been promoting and you should before taking a contrary stance to civilised behavours.
You need to go away and confront your own skewed puritanical view of heterosexuality as some kind of demonic spawn. You hate Anglo/Nordic/Saxon culture, that is self evident.
This merely illustrates the potential for designer researchReally ? How about considering the reverse proposition.
A study of 100 long term stable SS relationships with children versus 100 other relationships with children. But these other relationships encompass single parents, divorced parents, unhappy parents, happy families - the whole spectrum of life as we well know it..
Would you be happy with that study ? Or would it seem unfairly biased in favour of the 100 long term stable SS relationships?
The point of a valid study is keeping the study and control groups as equal as possible with the exception of a single variable. The other 129 studies appeared to do that and came up with equal social, emotional and educational outcomes for childrens. The outlier studies chose to use groups with significant differences in composition.
Seriously, do you really believe that SSM won't create all sorts of anxiety, contempt, social dislocation, mass media exploitive saturation, anger, criminal responses, etc?
Or do you gauge people's requirement to look away from crass, insulting behaviour as some kind democracy in action, rather than a loss (albeit for those who disagree with you)? We shouldn't have to modify our behaviour to accord an unnatural, indecent life style.
You haven't researched this have you.Yes, I really believe that.
We are talking about a WEDDING, attended by two individuals getting married, their relatives and close friends. Those who are enraged or believe this will cause them anxiety or to become violent....need not attend said wedding!
No one has to modify their behaviour. You won't be invited to these weddings, you won't be forced to spend time with same-sex couples, you can live your life just as you are now.
We are simply allowing two people of the same sex to be able to get married. Following the lead of many other nations with whom we are affiliated: NZ, the UK, the USA, Canada. Everyone is those countries seems to be coping just fine.
Yes, I really believe that.
We are talking about a WEDDING, attended by two individuals getting married, their relatives and close friends. Those who are enraged or believe this will cause them anxiety or to become violent....need not attend said wedding!
No one has to modify their behaviour. You won't be invited to these weddings, you won't be forced to spend time with same-sex couples, you can live your life just as you are now.
We are simply allowing two people of the same sex to be able to get married. Following the lead of many other nations with whom we are affiliated: NZ, the UK, the USA, Canada. Everyone is those countries seems to be coping just fine.
I have no "sanitised" version of homosexuality. I am totally aware of what some gay people do in saunas, bath houses, beats etc.
You haven't researched this have you.
As of 1 October 2017, same-sex marriage is legally recognized (nationwide or in some parts) in the following countries: Argentina, Belgium, Brazil, Canada, Colombia, Denmark, Finland, France, Germany, Iceland, Ireland, Luxembourg, Malta, Mexico,[nb 1] the Netherlands,[nb 2] New Zealand,[nb 3] Norway, Portugal, South Africa, Spain, Sweden, the United Kingdom,[nb 4] the United States[nb 5] and Uruguay.
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