Same sex marriage - Yes or No?

Logique · 4 December 2017

Spare a thought for this brave young Canadian woman, Lindsay Shepherd.

We will have Australian Lindsay Shepherds soon enough. Her offence - she provided a different perspective to her students on the use of personal pronouns, citing an author who stands by 'he' or 'she'. For this she was accused of being trans-phobic, and subjected to a multi-professor interrogation. Which fortunately she recorded. It is sickening to hear these university thought police in action.

As for Lib MP Tim Wilson, tell your fiance husband, I won't be accepting the wedding invitation, thanks all the same. Using the floor of the Australian Reps for your juvenile posturing, disgraceful

https://globalnews.ca/news/3870557/wilfred-laurier-freedom-of-expression-lindsay-shepherd/
Updated: November 21, 2017
Laurier university’s handling of freedom of expression ‘inexcusable’: prof
By Maham Abedi, National Online Journalist, Breaking News, Global News

Wilfrid Laurier University in Ontario owes teaching assistant Lindsay Shepherd an apology, according to a freedom of speech expert...

Wysiwyg · 4 December 2017

Logique said:
It is sickening to hear these university thought police in action.l

What of Company Board decisions regarding new company policy toward LGBTIQ types. Thou shalt welcome into the fold or else breach Code of Conduct. The above acronym is specifically about sexuality and it has become bigger than Ben Hur. Society being reconditioned as we type.

recondition
riːkənˈdɪʃ(ə)n/
verb
condition again.
"it was necessary to recondition the human mind to accept change"

SirRumpole · 4 December 2017

Logique said:
As for Lib MP Tim Wilson, tell your fiance husband, I won't be accepting the wedding invitation, thanks all the same. Using the floor of the Australian Reps for your juvenile posturing, disgraceful

Totally agree, misuse of Parliament.

sptrawler · 4 December 2017

SirRumpole said:
Totally agree, misuse of Parliament.

It just adds to the circus atmosphere, that Parliament generates these days, what a joke.

Tisme · 5 December 2017

sptrawler said:
It just adds to the circus atmosphere, that Parliament generates these days, what a joke.

You think?

PZ99 · 5 December 2017

If the slipper fits...

Tisme · 6 December 2017

https://www.wsj.com/livecoverage/supreme-court-cake-gay-rights-same-sex-colorado

The Supreme Court heard arguments Tuesday over a Colorado baker’s claim that free-speech and religious exercise protections exempt him from state law outlawing discrimination against gay people. We'll have regular updates and analysis from our Supreme Court team..............

Logique · 6 December 2017

Tisme said:
https://www.wsj.com/livecoverage/supreme-court-cake-gay-rights-same-sex-colorado

This is why the SSM legislation must not pass the House of Reps un-amended. Otherwise it just opens up a channel for vexatious litigants, such as in the current US case. There's no link between SSM and civil rights, say the 'Yes' lobby - which is baloney.
Also:

http://www.dorfonlaw.org/2017/09/why-court-cant-decide-masterpiece-bakery.html
September 17, 2017 - Why the Court Can't Decide Masterpiece Bakery - By Eric Segall

Tisme · 6 December 2017

http://www.news.com.au/entertainmen...w/news-story/e9abbac5a0953e92f3344efa9c6df11f

A LIBERAL MP has been put in his place in one of the most brutal, and brief, television interviews Australian politics has seen.

Tim Wilson appeared on Sky News on Thursday afternoon to talk politics with host Peter van Onselen, but their interview was cut sensationally short when the pro-gay marriage politician refused to engage on one issue.

“Do you like the idea of a secret ballot in the party room?” Van Onselen asked, referring to a plan Prime Minister Malcolm Turnbull reportedly has in the works to canvas his party room on the marriage reform.

Host Peter van Onselen was not interested in Tim Wilson’s topic suggestions. Picture: Sky News/SuppliedSource:Supplied

While he’s previously been very vocal on the need for same-sex marriage legislation, Mr Wilson refused to answer his interviewer, saying he had “nothing more to say” on the topic.

“I’d rather talk about something else that actually matters to the Australian population, the economy, energy prices, what’s going on with Labor’s tax slug. You pick it I’m happy to talk about it. I’ve said what I’ve said on this issue,” he said.

Van Onselen was clearly uninterested by Mr Wilson’s suggested conversation starters and instated chose to abruptly end the interview right then and there.

“Tim Wilson, thanks for your company,” Van Onselen said before seamlessly returning to the headlines.

Twenty-nine seconds. Interview over.

Ouch.

basilio · 6 December 2017

Tim Wilson interviewed on August 3rd.

SSM approved by Australian population at 61.8% on Nov 8th. Australian Parliament with support from all major parties about to endorse the overwheming public support for allowing SSM.

Bye, bye Tisme and co.

Logique · 7 December 2017

The science is decided, all discussion must cease

Tisme · 7 December 2017

basilio said:
Tim Wilson interviewed on August 3rd.

SSM approved by Australian population at 61.8% on Nov 8th. Australian Parliament with support from all major parties about to endorse the overwheming public support for allowing SSM.

Bye, bye Tisme and co.

Just hang around bas. I'm going to keep reminding you of the farce you and other zombies wasted their votes on.

Already poster boy Tim has abandoned you and other fawning fanboys now he's getting what he wanted.

The cake shop controversy is real, not the fallacy you would have had people believe.

Parliament has been used like a side show alley where tacky grandstanding homosexual "proposals" can be made on taxpayer time without any member protests for fear of social media and ABC backlash.

basilio · 7 December 2017

Tisme said:
Just hang around bas. I'm going to keep reminding you of the farce you and other zombies wasted their votes on.

Already poster boy Tim has abandoned you and other fawning fanboys now he's getting what he wanted.

The cake shop controversy is real, not the fallacy you would have had people believe.

Parliament has been used like a side show alley where tacky grandstanding homosexual "proposals" can be made on taxpayer time without any member protests for fear of social media and ABC backlash.

Crap Tisme. Confecting a cake shop controversy whose existence lies in the die hard conservatives wanting to beat a drum that is broken.

Rabbitting on about a gay marriage proposal in Parliament when such a historic change of policy has been made is just PETTY STOOPID. !! The enourmous waste of taxpayers time. ! What total dribble. Is there nothing else that happens in parliament that could earn such a comment ? Or is just another way to beat the broken drum.

Tisme · 7 December 2017

basilio said:
Crap Tisme. Confecting a cake shop controversy whose existence lies in the die hard conservatives wanting to beat a drum that is broken.

Rabbitting on about a gay marriage proposal in Parliament when such a historic change of policy has been made is just PETTY STOOPID. !! The enourmous waste of taxpayers time. ! What total dribble. Is there nothing else that happens in parliament that could earn such a comment ? Or is just another way to beat the broken drum.

Settle Gretel. It's too late to keep beating the drums to cover your mistake. We'll see who is the bigger man when it comes around and bites your bum...and it will.

Tisme · 7 December 2017

This is sooo funny and just goes to show how arrested development manifests itself:

Tisme · 17 December 2017

Xmas party last night in camp central. The boys are feeling a bit flat about getting equal rights to messy divorces.

One actually gained crowd approval by stating they will have to find another agenda

basilio · 24 December 2017

The joys of same sex marriage (even when your straight)

Two heterosexual Irish men marry to avoid inheritance tax on property
Matt Murphy, 83, intends to leave his house to his carer Michael O’Sullivan, 58, but it would have left him with a €50,000 tax bill

Two Irish best friends, neither of whom is gay, have married to avoid paying inheritance tax. Photograph: Gabriel Bouys/AFP/Getty Images
Pádraig Collins

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Two Irish men have married in Dublin to avoid paying €50,000 in inheritance tax on a house.

Best friends Matt Murphy and Michael O’Sullivan are both heterosexual, but decided to get married when they discovered how much tax would have to be paid on the house Murphy, 83, intended to leave in his will to O’Sullivan, 58, who is his carer.

Same-sex marriage was legalised in Ireland following a referendum in May 2015.

“I’ve known Matty for 30 years. We became very friendly after my second relationship broke up,” O’Sullivan, a father of three, told the Irish Mirror.

“I have been bringing Matt out in my car to various parties and all that kind of thing. He became friends with all my friends, they all loved him.”

Each man went through some tough times, with O’Sullivan becoming homeless and Murphy suffering from giant cell arteritis, which affects the optic nerve.

“I stayed over with him for a while and eventually Matt said ‘Why don’t you come and stay here?’ I would go over and stay with him the odd time but never full time.”

Murphy could not afford to pay O’Sullivan as a carer. “Eventually Matt said the only way he could pay me was to leave me the house. He said he would give me the house so I have somewhere to live when he goes.”

However, O’Sullivan knew that would mean a huge tax bill and the house would have to be sold to pay it. He said Murphy “was chatting a friend down the country in Cashel, Co Tipperary, and she jokingly said we should get married.

“Then one night he turned around and said it to me and I said I would marry him.”

https://www.theguardian.com/world/2...h-men-marry-to-avoid-inheritance-tax-on-house

Tisme · 25 December 2017

basilio said:
The joys of same sex marriage (even when your straight)

Two heterosexual Irish men marry to avoid inheritance tax on property
Matt Murphy, 83, intends to leave his house to his carer Michael O’Sullivan, 58, but it would have left him with a €50,000 tax bill

Two Irish best friends, neither of whom is gay, have married to avoid paying inheritance tax. Photograph: Gabriel Bouys/AFP/Getty Images
Pádraig Collins

Sat 23 Dec ‘17 21.03 AEDT First published on Sat 23 Dec ‘17 14.21 AEDT

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Two Irish men have married in Dublin to avoid paying €50,000 in inheritance tax on a house.

Best friends Matt Murphy and Michael O’Sullivan are both heterosexual, but decided to get married when they discovered how much tax would have to be paid on the house Murphy, 83, intended to leave in his will to O’Sullivan, 58, who is his carer.

Same-sex marriage was legalised in Ireland following a referendum in May 2015.

“I’ve known Matty for 30 years. We became very friendly after my second relationship broke up,” O’Sullivan, a father of three, told the Irish Mirror.

“I have been bringing Matt out in my car to various parties and all that kind of thing. He became friends with all my friends, they all loved him.”

Each man went through some tough times, with O’Sullivan becoming homeless and Murphy suffering from giant cell arteritis, which affects the optic nerve.

“I stayed over with him for a while and eventually Matt said ‘Why don’t you come and stay here?’ I would go over and stay with him the odd time but never full time.”

Murphy could not afford to pay O’Sullivan as a carer. “Eventually Matt said the only way he could pay me was to leave me the house. He said he would give me the house so I have somewhere to live when he goes.”

However, O’Sullivan knew that would mean a huge tax bill and the house would have to be sold to pay it. He said Murphy “was chatting a friend down the country in Cashel, Co Tipperary, and she jokingly said we should get married.

“Then one night he turned around and said it to me and I said I would marry him.”

https://www.theguardian.com/world/2...h-men-marry-to-avoid-inheritance-tax-on-house

That was a Paul Hogan and Michael Caton movie yes?

basilio · 25 December 2017

Yeah Paul and Michael did a poorish movie. But the two Irish guys have their own special relationship.
It's a good story.

Tisme · 19 January 2018

It seems the SSM magic bullet that, according to and including our resident Marxist oracle, was supposed eliminate mental disease and self immolation:

http://www.fava.org.au/news/2016/high-suicide-rate-in-married-homosexuals-swedish-study/

Same sex marriage - Yes or No?