Same sex marriage - Yes or No?

Tink · 17 November 2017

VC, you are entitled to your view.

As I have mentioned in here before, our country is based on our Christian heritage and Almighty God is in the preamble.
The Lord's Prayer is still said in our parliament.
Our public holidays reflect our nation.

Marriage is one man and one woman because it is the truth and responsibility in raising our children.

It seems many of you despise our country that was set up by the founding fathers, and are quick to try and dismantle the Australian Constitution.
That is your choice.

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SirRumpole · 17 November 2017

Value Collector said:
I think that you should be asking that question of yourself, how do you guys feel that you are sharing views with people you would be scared to sit next to on a plane, lol.

I don't think I share their views. I've said I don't care if gays get married it just should not be under the Marriage Act. You seem to have no problem with Muslims flogging gays as you never seem to speak out against it.

Anyway, life is life. The public vote is what was needed and it's strange that it was villified by people like yourself who said it should never have happened. Such people should have shown some principle and abstained.

overhang · 17 November 2017

Tink said:
VC, you are entitled to your view.

As I have mentioned in here before, our country is based on our Christian heritage and Almighty God is in the preamble.
The Lord's Prayer is still said in our parliament.
Our public holidays reflect our nation.

Marriage is one man and one woman because it is the truth and responsibility in raising our children.

It seems many of you despise our country that was set up by the founding fathers, and are quick to try and dismantle the Australian Constitution.
That is your choice.

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Thankfully the majority of Australians disagree with your view, your religion is dying in this country.

Junior · 17 November 2017

Tink said:
It seems many of you despise our country that was set up by the founding fathers, and are quick to try and dismantle the Australian Constitution.
That is your choice.

I don't think anyone on this forum despises this country.

Have a look at life expectancy, infant mortality, average wealth per person, standard of living index. Australia has continually improved as a nation since our 'founding fathers' set up this place. More than a third of the population associate themselves with NO RELIGION, so you can harp on about Christianity all you want, it's increasingly irrelevant for the day to day life of the majority of Aussies.

Australia just got a little bit better in the past few days, now embracing yet another minority in our community. 1,000s of couples who wish to marry will now be able to do so.

Many MPs who opposed the change will have some reflecting to do, as the vote shows they are out of step with the majority in their electorate.

Tink · 17 November 2017

Being a conservative, Junior, I don't agree with BIG Government.
People should be made accountable.

As I have said, I am all for private and public.

The State and the Church need to be separate, but it seems the state is getting bigger and encroaching on peoples lives.

This is my view.

Junior · 17 November 2017

Tink said:
Being a conservative, Junior, I don't agree with BIG Government.
People should be made accountable.

As I have said, I am all for private and public.

The State and the Church need to be separate, but it seems the state is getting bigger and encroaching on peoples lives.

This is my view.

We agree on these points Tink.

overhang · 17 November 2017

Tink said:
Being a conservative, Junior, I don't agree with BIG Government.
People should be made accountable.

As I have said, I am all for private and public.

The State and the Church need to be separate, but it seems the state is getting bigger and encroaching on peoples lives.

This is my view.

Why do you not hold churches to the same standard? The church encroaches on other peoples lives, they continually attempt to dictate our policies, whether that be SSM or euthanasia or abortion. I'm all for a church telling it's followers what the churches values are and what the church stands for but the church should stay out of other peoples private lives. It's none of their business if someone of a different faith or no faith chooses assisted dying or to have a SSM and they should not stand in the way. It seems like cognitive dissonance to condemn BIG government but support BIG church.

Tisme · 17 November 2017

luutzu said:
Not too sure how the United Kingdom isn't still a feudal society.

There's three kingdoms "united" to form that tiny island outpost of the American empire for Christ sake. There's still literal Lords and Barons, King/Queen, princes and other self-entitled useless imbreds living on welfare, cheating on taxes and acting like they own the place.

I guess that's just all tradition and heritage. The real UK no longer have landless peasants or blueblood idiots. It's all classless now - like the People's Republic of China with its comrades and billionaire princelings.

I have a feeling those billionaire princelings are about to get the Putin treatment and lose some of their feathers at the hands of the devolving communist party

Tisme · 17 November 2017

satanoperca said:
Hey Tease Me,

Do you need some money, help in anyway? Are you confused about your sexuality so see the need to attack others?
Think you are obsessed with Same Sex Marriage as you have clocked up an outstanding 1120 posts on the subject.

Mostly vitriolic, impatient and lack any understanding of really anything of value other than you construct the english language well.

Sarcasm need a certain amount of finesse to distance itself from vitriol. You need to hone your skills before trying to play with the big boys (pun intended).

satanoperca · 17 November 2017

Tease me,

Big words written by a little man, know please provide links to "There are innumerable peer reviewed proofs that "born with it" is a fallacy."

Or shut the F---k up.

Tisme · 17 November 2017

Value Collector said:
You just can't seem to comprehend that if you insist that sexuality is a "life style choice", you are also admitting that you feel like you chose yours.

So you have two choices.

1, Insist that sexuality is a choice, and therefore make every one think you are bisexual or a repressed gay man pretending to be straight.

or

2. admit you were born straight and didn't choose it, and therefore gays didn't choose theirs either.

You don't seem to understand anything that doesn't agree with your ingrained bias and need to be contrary.

Lets go down your logic path. You are maintaining that homosexuality isn't a lifestyle choice, yet happy to suggest heterosexual activity is. Then you will suggest if one is choice the other is choice because you say so. You will ignore the captain obvious that without science interfering "natural" procreation is simply between female and male. You will ignore the fact an an anus is for waste management. You will ignore the cocktail of diseases and maladies that arise because unfit for purpose body parts are being forced into a sewer system. And then same people wear those sewer systems out in public on their hands, mouth, etc.

But they are just like the majority rest yeah?

Tisme · 17 November 2017

satanoperca said:
Tease me,

Big words written by a little man, know please provide links to "There are innumerable peer reviewed proofs that "born with it" is a fallacy."

Or shut the F---k up.

You are obviously traumatised by your own situation. Using profanity to unsettle me won't work I'm afraid and won't resolve your own internal issues.

satanoperca · 17 November 2017

As I thought, you are all words and no substance.

You cannot provide the links.

Just a boy behind a keyboard.

At least people of Australia don't think like you and you are now the minority. lol

Tisme · 17 November 2017

Tink said:
It seems many of you despise our country that was set up by the founding fathers, and are quick to try and dismantle the Australian Constitution.
That is your choice.

They may not despise it, but a vast amount of people don't value it for it's traditions, preferring to adopt their cultural heritages that made their ancestoral family homes unbearable enough to migrate. We introduced a disease into our nation when we embraced multi culturalism without any brake pads on the rotors.

We once prided ourselves as being uninfected by old world ethnic diseases, but now we had devolved to old world and taking our cues from morally corrupt moribund societies half way around the world who are in self denial about the mistakes they have made as public policy.

Tisme · 17 November 2017

satanoperca said:
As I thought, you are all words and no substance.

You cannot provide the links.

Just a boy behind a keyboard.

At least people of Australia don't think like you and you are now the minority. lol

You're sounding silly. If you want the proofs look back on my posts, they are there already. But I'm sure you will cherry pick and use illogical themes to justify your misery.

overhang · 17 November 2017

Tisme said:
You don't seem to understand anything that doesn't agree with your ingrained bias and need to be contrary.

Lets go down your logic path. You are maintaining that homosexuality isn't a lifestyle choice, yet happy to suggest heterosexual activity is. Then you will suggest if one is choice the other is choice because you say so. You will ignore the captain obvious that without science interfering "natural" procreation is simply between female and male. You will ignore the fact an an anus is for waste management. You will ignore the cocktail of diseases and maladies that arise because unfit for purpose body parts are being forced into a sewer system. And then same people wear those sewer systems out in public on their hands, mouth, etc.

But they are just like the majority rest yeah?

I've already linked you this in the past but you conveniently ignore anything that doesn't follow your preconceived opinion that you being gay is a lifestyle choice.

The midsagittal plane of the anterior commissure in homosexual men was 18% larger than in heterosexual women and 34% larger than in heterosexual men.

https://timedotcom.files.wordpress.com/2015/03/7199.full.pdf

Dean Hamer finally feels vindicated. More than 20 years ago, in a study that triggered both scientific and cultural controversy, the molecular biologist offered the first direct evidence of a “gay gene,” by identifying a stretch on the X chromosome likely associated with homosexuality. But several subsequent studies called his finding into question. Now the largest independent replication effort so far, looking at 409 pairs of gay brothers, fingers the same region on the X.

http://www.sciencemag.org/news/2014...s-may-confirm-x-chromosome-link-homosexuality

There are biological anomalies found in gay individuals, anomalies that can't be chosen.

Any straight male knows they can't choose to get an erection over another bloke even if they wanted to but for some reason you think you can, this says more about your own sexuality than it does about lifestyle choices.

https://timedotcom.files.wordpress.com/2015/03/7199.full.pdf

luutzu · 17 November 2017

Tisme said:
I have a feeling those billionaire princelings are about to get the Putin treatment and lose some of their feathers at the hands of the devolving communist party

They already got the Xi treatment.

Rooting out corruption, abuse of power and probably this or that anti-people's-revolutionary activities.

Xi can't help it if all those dragged in just happen to be that those from the Hu faction.

The little I know of Putin's handy work were quite patriotic. I mean he remove the dozen or so plutocrats that own most of Russia's assets from a firesale/gift to them under Yelsin (at the advise of Uncle Sam and his neoliberal retards).

Heard that Yelsin's admin sold practically all of the former Soviet's industries to his cronies for about $490B. Or was it million. But what's a few extra digits for the entirety of the soviet empire mines, oil, industries among friends.

But yes, those commies take national assets, money and power from the struggling princelings and plutocrats all to themselves and their cronies.

Unlike the more civilised Western politicians who take it from the poor and gave it to entrepreneurs.

Tisme · 17 November 2017

overhang said:
I've already linked you this in the past but you conveniently ignore anything that doesn't follow your preconceived opinion that you being gay is a lifestyle choice.

https://timedotcom.files.wordpress.com/2015/03/7199.full.pdf

http://www.sciencemag.org/news/2014...s-may-confirm-x-chromosome-link-homosexuality

There are biological anomalies found in gay individuals, anomalies that can't be chosen.

Any straight male knows they can't choose to get an erection over another bloke even if they wanted to but for some reason you think you can, this says more about your own sexuality than it does about lifestyle choices.

Where have you guys been. In the last few weeks the gay press and publicity machine, have been expounding the imminent success of the"gay lifestyle" and the right to "choose". It's not me using these terms, I just repeated what they have been saying for years and years.

Tisme · 17 November 2017

luutzu said:
They already got the Xi treatment.

Rooting out corruption, abuse of power and probably this or that anti-people's-revolutionary activities.

Xi can't help it if all those dragged in just happen to be that those from the Hu faction.

The little I know of Putin's handy work were quite patriotic. I mean he remove the dozen or so plutocrats that own most of Russia's assets from a firesale/gift to them under Yelsin (at the advise of Uncle Sam and his neoliberal retards).

Heard that Yelsin's admin sold practically all of the former Soviet's industries to his cronies for about $490B. Or was it million. But what's a few extra digits when the entirety of the soviet empire mines, oil, industries among friends.

But yes, these commies take national assets, money and power from the struggling princelings and plutocrats all to themselves and their cronies.

Unlike the more civilised Western politicians who take it from the poor and gave it on a silver platter to entrepreneurs.

You know I'm starting to wonder if you are blessed with an intelligence approaching my own, albeit somewhat twisted from the righteous path I "chose" as part of my "lifestyle choice"

overhang · 17 November 2017

Tisme said:
Where have you guys been. In the last few weeks the gay press and publicity machine, have been expounding the imminent success of the"gay lifestyle" and the right to "choose". It's not me using these terms, I just repeated what they have been saying for years and years.

Yes they mean choosing to follow their sexual urges, sexual urges that aren't chosen. Keep ignoring the science and your own sexuality by the look of things.

Same sex marriage - Yes or No?