Julia
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Julia said:The Senate today decided in favour of the Private Members Bill advocating RU486 distribution decisions be removed from the Minister of Health to the TGA. I hope a similar decision is made when the Bill goes to the House of Representatives.
The 7,.30 Report this evening showed grabs of various politicians in the Senate giving their reasons why they were voting for and against. Essentially, most of the women voted for and some obvious men (e.g. Tony Abbott whose views are well known) voted against.
This forum consists of, if I've perceived it correctly, a majority of blokes.
I'd be really interested to know from everyone who takes an interest in this subject how you would have voted if you'd been a Senator today.
I find it incredible that so many men who obviously don't have any understanding of what it can be like to be faced with an unwanted pregnancy, can be so bloody patronising in stating blandly that they just don't believe in abortion. It would be a different story if they actually had to go through the pregnancy and take responsibility for caring for the child afterwards. Tony Abbott even had the effrontery to suggest that the change of approvals from himself to the TGA for RU486 would probably result in a huge increase in backyard abortions! The medication has to be prescribed by a doctor, for heavens' sake. As Amanda Vanstone pointed out, no one is suggesting women will be able to rock up on into their local supermarket, buy a couple of packets and rock on out to the desert and take the pills miles away from any medical assistance should that become necessary.
Surely this drug would be a preferable means of terminating an unwanted pregnancy to having to undergo a surgical abortion.
I'd be really interested to hear the views of members, male and female on this apparently controversial subject, and also the question to the blokes:
:"Do you think it should be a woman's right to choose what she does when faced with an unexpected pregnancy?"
Julia
Duckman#72 said:Hi All
The primary question that needs to be answered is - "Is it safe?"
Adverse Events and Side Effects
* An Overview of Adverse Events and Side Effects
* Pelvic Infections
* Excessive Bleeding
* Allergic Reactions
* Cardiopulmonary Problems
* Emotional and Psychological Reactions
1. An Overview of Adverse Events and Side Effects [top]
Eight deaths have occurred in recent years related to RU-486 abortions: 4 in California, 1 in Canada, 2 in the United Kingdom and 1 in Sweden. In addition...
Agreed that it's an unusual argument. But at the end of the day the effect of abstaining from sex is ultimately the same as abortion - fewer people on the planet. If nobody has sex, the species eventually dies out completely. If every woman has 10 children, how can we possibly feed them all? Just contemplate what a 50 or so fold increase in all resource use over 2 generations would involve. They are the extremes of course.Duckman#72 said:I have never heard of the argument that a couple who believe in abstaining in sex before marriage are denying the life of a child. LOL's!!
Duckman
Smurf1976 said:abstaining from sex is ultimately the same as abortion - fewer people on the planet.
Julia said:...........I'd be really interested to hear the views of members, male and female on this apparently controversial subject, and also the question to the blokes:
:"Do you think it should be a woman's right to choose what she does when faced with an unexpected pregnancy?"
Julia
Prospector said:Hi Julia
As a female I can only assert that it is the woman's choice to determine the outcome of an unplanned pregnancy. While some posters assert that abortion should only be performed if there is a physical risk to the mother's life, this totally ignores any other impact an unwanted pregancy has on her life - such as her mental health. Not to mention changing the course of her life for the next 18 years.
As abortion is legal in Australia, then RU486 offers an alternative method of achieving this, and is less invasive than surgical intervention. The risks of surgical intervention including the use of anaesthetics is much higher than the use of this drug.
Why Mr Abbott is bringing himself personally into this debate is beyond me. As I have just heard Julia Guillard state, this debate is not about him, it is a medical choice. Why it was ever effectively 'banned' is beyond me, actually I do know, it was a deal done with Harradine in order to gain his vote on something else. Nothing like women's health becoming a commodity in politics.
macca said:Passionate people wanting to impose their beliefs on others, seems to me that is how most of the worlds problems start
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