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SirRumpole said:
The fact that one did not may indicate a reasonable doubt.
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It might not be that the acccuser was disbelieved by the judge.

It may simply be that the testimony, from a solitary complainant (irrespective of credibility or lack thereof), might not have been seen as sufficient to establish guilt beyond reasonable doubt.
 
If only there were any doubt about so much else of his putrid activities to delay and deny and evert; the tragic consequences of which can only be guessed at. But Pell wasn't on trail for these obsequious obsequious failures, the aim of which was protect the power privilege and money of very manmade institution...
But in this time of darkness the lord has given me Ms Devine(and others) for discomfort.
 
The appeal court was to look at the process of law not to evaluate the evidence is how I understand the process.

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If this precedent becomes the norm the Catholic Church in Australia could well be bankrupted. I don't think the insurance companies will be paying up the $1m.

Gerald Ridsdale victim reaches abuse compensation settlement with Catholic Church
Updated 25 minutes ago

Photo: Gerald Ridsdale is believed to have abused hundreds of children. (Supplied)
Related Story: Catholic Church admits liability for damaging claims, lawyers say
The Catholic Church is expected to pay more than $1 million in compensation after reaching a settlement with a man who was raped by Australia's worst paedophile priest, Gerald Ridsdale

https://www.abc.net.au/news/2019-09...ches-settlement-with-catholic-church/11555748
 
Whilst I still do not know whether or not Pell is truly guilty of the crimes for which he has been convicted, I am of the definite opinion that Victoria has well and truly lost sight of the importance of, the presumption of innocence, until guilt is established beyond reasonable doubt.

I cling to the hope, that the testing of Pell's criminal conviction, before the High court, will result in a finding that will restore some of my lost faith in the Australian justice system.

 
The merde has well and truly hit the fan with the 4 Corners story on the elite St Kevins College in Melbourne.
The stories about grooming of students, cover ups, attacking teachers who tried to report the problems and multiple abuse are roiling the school community. The Principal has already resigned.

https://www.abc.net.au/news/2020-02...ted-sex-offender-over-student-victim/11957510
https://www.abc.net.au/news/2020-02-19/st-kevins-headmaster-stephen-russell-resigns/11980008
https://www.abc.net.au/news/2020-02-17/investigation-into-teacher-behaviour-at-st-kevins/11972138
https://www.abc.net.au/news/2020-02-19/st-kevins-allegations-mandatory-reporting/11981188
 
basilio said:
The merde has well and truly hit the fan with the 4 Corners story on the elite St Kevins College in Melbourne.
The stories about grooming of students, cover ups, attacking teachers who tried to report the problems and multiple abuse are roiling the school community. The Principal has already resigned.

https://www.abc.net.au/news/2020-02...ted-sex-offender-over-student-victim/11957510
https://www.abc.net.au/news/2020-02-19/st-kevins-headmaster-stephen-russell-resigns/11980008
https://www.abc.net.au/news/2020-02-17/investigation-into-teacher-behaviour-at-st-kevins/11972138
https://www.abc.net.au/news/2020-02-19/st-kevins-allegations-mandatory-reporting/11981188
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Multiplied by how many ?
 
And into the breach of abuse rides the great white Christian hope.

Yes Andrew de Bolt is out there trying to minimise the allegations by saying the teacher was just "hitting on" the Year 9 boy. Not that serious surely.

Just read what the teacher did/said to the student (and Andrew knew this) and ask yourself if anyone should ever believe anything Andrew Bolt ever says.:mad:

Child protection groups condemn Andrew Bolt for saying convicted St Kevin's groomer 'hit on' victim
Bolt denies he minimised the seriousness of Peter Kehoe’s offending in his Sky News program

.... The victim, Paris Street, told Milligan he was repeatedly exposed to offensive comments by former coach Peter Kehoe, who was convicted in 2015 for grooming.

According to the ABC, when Kehoe was coaching Street he sent him messages via Facebook, which eventually escalated to the coach taking Street to his house and inviting him into his bed.

Kehoe told Street about having an erection and asked him if he knew what pre-cum was, Street told Four Corners.

“‘Then he asked me if I know what pre-cum is, and then I said, ‘no’. Then he said, ‘it’s the premature stages of ejaculation’. Then he said, ‘you can lick it off whenever you like’,” Street said.

https://www.theguardian.com/media/2...ing-convicted-st-kevins-groomer-hit-on-victim
 
ABC is running a 3 part series called Revelations. Sounds like necessary viewing for all of us to understand what has happened in our churches and schools and some of the reasons.

You'll need a strong stomach to digest Revelation's insights into child sexual abuse in the Catholic church
Brigid Delaney
ABC’s documentary about a convicted paedophile priest is difficult to watch, but perhaps it’s necessary to bear witness

Despite an extensive royal commission, scores of criminal trials and excellent books such as Louise Milligan’s Cardinal and David Marr’s The Prince, there are still some unanswered questions about child sexual abuse in the now-tattered narrative of the Catholic church in Australia.

These include: why did these priests do such horrible things? How did they justify their crimes to themselves and to God? What kind of conversations may they have had with, say, their archbishop or monsignor, once they were rumbled by a parent or teacher or victim?

Accounts from the paedophiles themselves that may go some way towards answering those questions are also missing from this narrative. Perhaps this is because paedophiles do not want to talk due to shame or due to the media’s preference for – in some cases – giving victims airtime and denying a platform to abusers. And then there’s us, the audience. Do we really want to hear from them?

There are arguments for listening to perpetrators explain themselves. You can better understand the crime if you understand the criminal. And the Catholic church has for a long time been so opaque on matters of sexual abuse that any interview, no matter how painful to watch, is illuminating.

The first episode of the three-part documentary Revelation is built around such an interview. ABC journalist Sarah Ferguson sits down with Fr Vincent Ryan (yes he is still a priest, yet to be defrocked despite his horrendous crimes against children) and tries to answer all these questions.
https://www.theguardian.com/tv-and-...nto-child-sexual-abuse-in-the-catholic-church
 
The third episode of "Revelations" is coming up tonight.

It will hammer home the last nails on the coffin of Cardinal Pells reputation.
I'm not sure if many people are aware that there were many more allegations made against Cardinal Pell than were finally taken to court. The prosecutors and police had to weigh up which allegations could stand the pressure of court case which could only come don down to word against word.

IMV its worth reading the full story.

Two new accusers say George Pell abused them when they were boys in the 1970s
For decades, 53-year-old Bernie* kept the secrets of his childhood deeply buried.
As a boy growing up in a Ballarat orphanage in the 1970s, Bernie told the ABC's Revelation program that he was abused on multiple occasions by George Pell, then a priest in the diocese of Ballarat.
For years Bernie was convinced that if he reported the abuse, he would not be believed.
"I would hear Pell's become Bishop," Bernie says.
"Pell's become Archbishop. Pell's become a Cardinal. Who's gonna believe a little boy from a home against that conglomerate? You know against that bloody goliath?"
https://www.abc.net.au/news/2020-04-02/george-pell-ballarat-allegations-revelation/12109952
 
This High Court appeal did not ask whether Pell committed the offences. It asked whether the two majority judges in the Victorian Court of Appeal, in dismissing Pell’s earlier appeal, made an error about the nature of the correct legal principles, or their application.
 
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