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Broken Rites has been a key organisation is documenting the extent of child sex abuse in the catholic community. Excellent interview with one of the main researchers of this organisation.
The Goodlife: Justice for survivors of clerical sexual abuse
Sunday, February 3, 2013
by Noel Debien with Dr Bernard Barrett
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Honorary Researcher with Broken Rites


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Goodlife: Justice for survivors of clergy sexual abuse
Noel Debien with Dr Bernard Barrett from Broken Rites

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In this year of the royal commission into sexual abuse, we're looking into some of the people who have pursued issues many people find distasteful- even not discussible.

In this episode, we speak with Dr Bernard Barrett, a person who has been dedicating his voluntary time to the investigation and exposure of clerical sexual abuse- many crimes which have been previously hidden for cultural and family reasons.

Bernard Barrett has spent much of his free time researching and following up on crimes of sexual abuse within the church. The group he works with is called Broken Rites; a group of volunteers who continue to report on the church and victims of sexual abuse.

It's a difficult job to do, but one which reveals the deeply personal nature of exposing clerical sexual abuse; why it helps people to recover and be well- and so to lead the Goodlife.
http://www.abc.net.au/sundaynights/stories/s3682632.htm
 
Darc Knight said:
Humour is in the eye of the beholder I guess ;)
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I assumed that was the case. But I've seen some very dogmatic people on this forum who keep insisting black is really white regardless of the independent evidence. So I was just checking :)
 
The case that Alan Joans was making yesterday was that the DPP don't normally run such a case off one witness. He (Joans) also claimed the other Boy had denied the incident before his death.
 
imv, the stalinists have hijacked Melbourne, and I have said that before.

Our state is being watched around the world.
 
Darc Knight said:
The case that Alan Joans was making yesterday was that the DPP don't normally run such a case off one witness. He (Joans) also claimed the other Boy had denied the incident before his death.
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Check out the story of the The Kid and The Choirboy. That would be the source of the claim that the other boy had denied the incident before his death. Then think about the context of that statement and it might make more sense.

I can understand the "concern" that there was only one (living) witness to the assault and that the DPP wouldn't normally proceed with such a case. I'm absolutely certain that Cardinal Pell and hundreds of other similar figures were equally confident that no one would believe a kid vs them in any setting.

Perhaps the biggest thing we have learnt in the course of the Commission, Previous publicity and current fallout is how evil these people have been. And in particular that defiant postures of innocence and truth are part of a facade that says "If I keep denying it they can't make it stick".
 
Tink said:
imv, the stalinists have hijacked Melbourne, and I have said that before.

Our state is being watched around the world.
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Tink, you do say some pretty strange things at times
... But this is getting into Gold Star territory.

By the way do you acknowledge that hundreds probably thousands of people, many in the Catholic Church sexually abused children in their care?
 
Is Cardinal Pell being tried as a proxy for the entire Catholic Church, or for his alleged individual participation?

Anyone taking the time to actually look at the publicly available evidence would see, the Cardinal has strong grounds for legal appeal.

I remember when the mob howled at Lindy Chamberlain. Who was innocent.
 
Logique said:
Is Cardinal Pell being tried as a proxy for the entire Catholic Church, or for his alleged individual participation?

Anyone taking the time to actually look at the publicly available evidence would see, the Cardinal has strong grounds for legal appeal.

I remember when the mob howled at Lindy Chamberlain. Who was innocent.
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Didn't Lindy Chamberlain get done over by circumstantial and dodgy forensic evidence.

Pell was convicted on the evidence of a victim who convinced a jury of his truth.

Note Pell had the best defence money could buy
 
IFocus said:
Didn't Lindy Chamberlain get done over by circumstantial and dodgy forensic evidence.

Pell was convicted on the evidence of a victim who convinced a jury of his truth.

Note Pell had the best defence money could buy
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The defence was denied the opportunity to present some evidence.

For the sake of fairness the defence should be given as much opportunity to present it's case as possible.

I understand this will be grounds for the appeal.
 
SirRumpole said:
The defence was denied the opportunity to present some evidence.

For the sake of fairness the defence should be given as much opportunity to present it's case as possible.

I understand this will be grounds for the appeal.
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Its often the case as I understand also often for evidence from the prosecution to be denied as well.

There is a fair bit of emotion on both sides of this case Pell I think got a fair hearing I suspect if the conviction stands others will come forward with further allegations Pedos never just strike once.
 
Tink said:
Was this Royal Commission about the Catholic Church, basilio?
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In point of fact it was initially proposed as an investigation into the Catholic Church's handling of child sex abuse. This came out of a number of cases that were brought to the public's attention.
However the Catholic Church (rightly) felt they were being unduly picked on and it was suggested that the Commission should have a broader remit - The Institutional Response to Child Sex abuse.

That was quickly agreed and the Commission systematically looked at all institutions which was an excellent outcome.

In the final analysis it turned out that the Catholic Church in fact had the most number of complaints in terms of proportion of victims vs size of institution. Not a good first at all.:(
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As far as Cardinal Pell's defense ? On every indication his legal team used every possible angle to get a not guilty result. This was a Rolls Royce defense, not your garden variety representation limited by financial resources and any skill limitations. Jon Faine, lawayer and ABC presenter, had some words on this situation as well as the public response to the verdict.

So which Stalinists have hijacked Melbourne ??:confused::confused:

https://www.abc.net.au/news/2019-02-26/jon-faine-on-pell-talkback-response/10850254
 
When you think about it for a millisecond the response of Cardinal Pells high profile supporters to his conviction has been absolutely breath taking.

Since when has Australia supported a convicted pedophile ?

Well it looks like we have turned that page - when it comes to defending a man of the conservative stature of Cardinal Pell.
Check out the argument.

George Pell
The inconsistencies of George Pell's defenders just display their power
Richard Cooke https://www.theguardian.com/comment...rge-pells-defenders-just-displays-their-power
 
basilio said:
However the Catholic Church (rightly) felt they were being unduly picked on and it was suggested that the Commission should have a broader remit - The Institutional Response to Child Sex abuse.
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How many Muslim institutions did they investigate ?

Other Christian Cults ?

Scientology ?
 
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