I remember reading somewhere that the odds of a single functioning organism arising by chance from the ooze was of the same order as winning first division lotto every week for 100,000 years.
I agree with you that we are animals jtb, but on the other point (above) - we also have the stump of a tail at the end of our spine -Why would humans evolve a brain that consumes 50% of the bodies bloodflow and of which only 10% is utilised???
check out the 1m10s mark ...as Carl Sagan says ... how slowly life evolves -
molecules of early oceans to the first bacteria....
By the time one-celled animials had evolved, history of life on earth was half over.
A new analysis of two human skulls previously found in Africa shows they date from nearly 200,000 years ago, making them the oldest known examples of our species.
The finding suggests our ancestors spent a long, long time wallowing in an uncultured era with no music, art or jewelry.
The fossils were found near Kibish, Ethiopia in 1967. Scientists had previously thought they were no more than 160,000 old. The new analysis of rocks in which the skulls were embedded shows them both to date back 195,000 years, give or take 5,000.
1. I agree - Dawkins is a great trigger for some rational thought hereI think generally speaking, Dawkins is doing well to open minds with his perception on life.There is real evidence of other animals that existed long before human beings and real evidence of the desire for each living organism to continue living.
[200,000 year old skeleton]
Feeding and procreating, Feeding and procreating, Feeding and procreating, Feeding and procreating, Feeding and procreating, Feeding and procreating, Feeding and procreating etcetera.
You get the drift.The forces of what we call `nature` are greater than small mind will ever be.(especially my pea )
Yes on both counts.Quick question is he in opposition to God or opposition to religion?
"No suicide bombers, no 9/11, no Crusades, no witch hunts, no Gunpowder Plot, no Indian partition, no Israeli/Palestine wars, no Serb/Croat/ Muslim massacres, no persecution of Jews as "Christ-killers," no northern Ireland "troubles," no shiny-suited bouffant-haired televangelists fleecing gullible people ... no Taliban to blow up ancient statues, no public beheading of blasphemers ... "
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Radiometric dating (often called radioactive dating) is a technique used to date materials, based on a comparison between the observed abundance of particular naturally occurring radioactive isotopes and their known decay rates.[1] It is the principal source of information about the absolute age of rocks and other geological features, including the age of the Earth itself. Among the best-known techniques are potassium-argon dating and uranium-lead dating.
heck cyn - I've already posted Johnny Howard's pinup girlYes on both counts.
20/20 a request...next weekend can your subject be something non religious...how about something sexist.
1. a lot of these problems whilst they may have religion as a rallying point there are a lot of other mitigating factors...and can be explained as much by tribalism as by religion....In that its the protection and procreation of the tribe that are the causal attributes? So if we didn't have religion there would still be enough causes for war (explained by tribalism)
2. Religions often offer a lot of support to the community. Father O'Riley and the Youth Off The Streets program being one of my favorites
3. A way of personal salvation? Drug addicts, Inmates...I know a couple of guys that have found Religion whilst inside and now theyr'e changed people and great role models
I agree with you that we are animals jtb, but on the other point (above) - we also have the stump of a tail at the end of our spine -
(btw the aim of this chatroom and these sorts of threads is to use some of the unused 90% of that brain lol)
I think you are saying there was a guiding hand through the forest of evolution yes?
Not sure how to challenge your alleged statistical chance of life there- lemme put it this was - I've gotta feeling it's wrong lol.
Who knows? "star stuff" might have triggered things(?)
kgee - comments about your points:
- rather than if there was a basic inner understanding of the reasons for why their behaviour/actions were not ideal in the first place... imho, of course
The weak need religion and gods,to instill meaning and hope.
The strong need religion and god to instill fear and power.
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