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Since the 'new age' social experiment, of empowering children to self regulate and set their own moral compass, I've noticed that it is become a level playing field.

When waiting to get on a bus a group of school kids came over and just pushed into the front of the queue, this made me wonder if it was an isolated instance or a trend.
So now when I use public transport, I just watch and observe how many people stand up for the infirmed or elderly, well it looks like equality is certainly taking hold because not many do give up their seats, those of Asian descent seem to be most likely to from my observations.

Also now it appears that the young have realised they have a distinct physical advantage over the elderly, even if they are vertically challenged.

Interesting times, at least it is allowing children to challenge their boundaries and realise their full potential of social conscience. :rolleyes:


Watch: Teens brutally bash elderly man at Westfield shopping centre​

Footage has emerged of an elderly man being brutally beaten allegedly by two teens as onlookers film the vicious assault outside a Westfield shopping centre in Brisbane



www.watoday.com.au

Second child arrested over bashing of elderly man in Bentley

Police have now charged a 15-year-old boy from Langford in relation to the incident, alongside his 11-year-old alleged accomplice.
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thewest.com.au

Alarming rise in teacher assaults trigger comp claims surge

A sharp rise in teachers’ workers’ compensation claims has been driven by a 20 per cent rise in the number of assaults, as new figures show a shocking hike in violent incidents reported in 2022-23.
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A sharp rise in teachers’ workers’ compensation claims has been driven by a 20 per cent rise in the number of assaults, it has been revealed as new figures show a violent incident reported in WA schools every hour last financial year.

The data, released in Parliament on Tuesday, show a sharp rise in teachers claiming compensation after being assaulted, from 384 claims in 2021-22 to 459 in 2022-23. The payouts for those claims rose from $7.6 million to $9.5 million.
 
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sptrawler said:
Since the 'new age' social experiment, of empowering children to self regulate and set their own moral compass, I've noticed that it is become a level playing field.
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This starts at home, problems come along long before your premise IMHO you could start with these days both parents working and not being around their kids enough.

Outrage clickbait always finger pointing and blaming everything / everyone else rather than where it all starts again IMHO.
 
IFocus said:
This starts at home, problems come along long before your premise IMHO you could start with these days both parents working and not being around their kids enough.

Outrage clickbait always finger pointing and blaming everything / everyone else rather than where it all starts again IMHO.
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Agreed, but it is a very pertinent issue, even if a parent disciplines their own child it can have dire consequences.
The West has changed a lot of social norms in the last 20 years, many of these norms were developed over centuries, IMO some have been changes for the better, some haven't been as successful.
Where we appear to be having a problem as a society, is admitting where we have got it wrong and changing it.
There is just as much outrage when the parents are blamed, as there is when the children are blamed, the fact remains the situation is worsening and there has always been parents. So what has changed?
 
Discipline used to be taught at home but in NSW the rot started in the schools, the idea of respecting the teacher was removed by the teachers union.

They decided that it was not the role of the teacher to enforce discipline in the classroom, the Department supported this attitude

Eventually, if a child was corrected in any way some parents would arrive at the school and abuse the teacher and headmaster.

I know of one female teacher who held the arm of a 11 year old boy to stop him bashing another child, she was suspended from duty indefinitely.

She said I have a duty of care to the victim, they said you should not have touched his arm, she took early retirement

No surprise that bullies run rampant is it
 

Sounds like Brisbane has a few issues ATM.​

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Police attacked at ‘eshay gathering’ as notorious YouTube star greets fans​

Police cars have been damaged and specialist officers called in after hundreds of people blocked streets in Logan today during a visit by a notorious YouTube star Spanian.


Youth crime crisis: These are the stories the Premier needs to read​

Queensland families are installing locks on their bedroom doors, sleeping in one room, or not sleeping at all after falling victim to the state’s spiralling youth crime crisis.
 
sptrawler said:

Sounds like Brisbane has a few issues ATM.​

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Police attacked at ‘eshay gathering’ as notorious YouTube star greets fans​

Police cars have been damaged and specialist officers called in after hundreds of people blocked streets in Logan today during a visit by a notorious YouTube star Spanian.


Youth crime crisis: These are the stories the Premier needs to read​

Queensland families are installing locks on their bedroom doors, sleeping in one room, or not sleeping at all after falling victim to the state’s spiralling youth crime crisis.
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Next will it be vigilante squads roaming the streets of the burbs to make it safe.
 
macca said:
Discipline used to be taught at home but in NSW the rot started in the schools, the idea of respecting the teacher was removed by the teachers union.

They decided that it was not the role of the teacher to enforce discipline in the classroom, the Department supported this attitude

Eventually, if a child was corrected in any way some parents would arrive at the school and abuse the teacher and headmaster.

I know of one female teacher who held the arm of a 11 year old boy to stop him bashing another child, she was suspended from duty indefinitely.

She said I have a duty of care to the victim, they said you should not have touched his arm, she took early retirement

No surprise that bullies run rampant is it
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The hairy legged lefty feminists got in to power in NSW in the 70's and 80's, then the rot started.

Three generations of muppets have gone through school since, so it is nigh impossible to reverse.

Just say nothing and keep your family safe.

gg
 
macca said:
Discipline used to be taught at home but in NSW the rot started in the schools, the idea of respecting the teacher was removed by the teachers union.

They decided that it was not the role of the teacher to enforce discipline in the classroom, the Department supported this attitude

Eventually, if a child was corrected in any way some parents would arrive at the school and abuse the teacher and headmaster.

I know of one female teacher who held the arm of a 11 year old boy to stop him bashing another child, she was suspended from duty indefinitely.

She said I have a duty of care to the victim, they said you should not have touched his arm, she took early retirement

No surprise that bullies run rampant is it
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Just a theory , but I put part of the problem down to an imbalance of male teachers throughout the education system.

There is a lack of authoritarian discipline that women find hard to exercise.

Staff numbers

www.acara.edu.au
 
SirRumpole said:
Just a theory , but I put part of the problem down to an imbalance of male teachers throughout the education system.

There is a lack of authoritarian discipline that women find hard to exercise.

Staff numbers

www.acara.edu.au
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All it takes is one disgruntled spoiled brat to complain about being corrected and the male teacher is suspended and his career is forever under a black cloud.

I know there have been male teachers who have molested children and I find this abhorrent but at present, every male is viewed as a sexual deviate who cannot be trusted.

If a child or woman makes an allegation then the male is deemed to be guilty until proven innocent.

Even judges in NSW are complaining about cases being brought to court that are so weak that it has become a warlock hunt against men.
 
macca said:
Even judges in NSW are complaining about cases being brought to court that are so weak that it has become a warlock hunt against men.
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Increase the supply of something and it gets put to increasingly frivolous uses.

That goes for anything from cars to tech gadgets to water. Once basic needs are met, increasing supply simply leads to ever less important uses being found.

TV's are a great example. We've gone from one TV in the lounge room, to two or more per house, to a point where even my local service station has a plethora of screens used for nothing more than advertising. Go back just one generation and the only place you'd find anything like that would be an arcade or a control room, now screens are pretty much everywhere being used for nothing more than signage. A classic example of the concept.

Now this also applies to professions. Lawyers have gone from being really quite scarce, odds are you didn't know anyone in the profession and none of your friends did either, to a point where having a law degree is unremarkable, it's no longer rare.

And so we have far more lawyers, being used for increasingly frivolous purposes.

Another consequence of society's obsession with tertiary education being seen as the only option. Meanwhile we're short on people to drive heavy vehicles and in practically every trade.:2twocents
 
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Meanwhile in Adelaide:



There are jobs where some degree of risk will always exist due to the nature of the work, various manual labour type jobs, but something's gone seriously wrong in society when working in a shop comes with the risk of being bashed over the head. :2twocents
 
Smurf1976 said:
Meanwhile in Adelaide:



There are jobs where some degree of risk will always exist due to the nature of the work, various manual labour type jobs, but something's gone seriously wrong in society when working in a shop comes with the risk of being bashed over the head. :2twocents
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That's what happens when the population increases, so does the proportion of loonies in the population.

More and more of these things will be reported from now on, it's an unfortunate part of life.
 
SirRumpole said:
Just a theory , but I put part of the problem down to an imbalance of male teachers throughout the education system.

There is a lack of authoritarian discipline that women find hard to exercise.

Staff numbers

www.acara.edu.au
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@SirRumpole When both of my sons attended school back in the 80's and 90's that was exactly the case.
They had one male teacher in primary school and he was the phys ed teacher.
 
The real issue that people have to ask is, this could be me am I really taking this social issue seriously, everyone is understanding until it is them or their loved ones that are facing down the barrel.
This is a fundamental failing of our society and pretending it isn't a real issue isn't helping IMO, these are elders also.

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sptrawler said:
The real issue that people have to ask is, this could be me am I really taking this social issue seriously, everyone is understanding until it is them or their loved ones that are facing down the barrel.
This is a fundamental failing of our society and pretending it isn't a real issue isn't helping IMO, these are elders also.

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One only has to look around the large shopping centres, in their car parks, entrances to the buildings to see the types lounging around.
I now have told She who is never wrong, that if and when she visits the two centres here at Midland, she is not to have a handbag available for an easy grab, try and walk nearby to someone else while getting to and from the car to the shopping centre.
It is a sad fact of life that so many undesirables frequent these places.
 
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