Bill M
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You mean to say I was created by a piece of dog ****???God is either everything or not at all... and by everything I mean even the dog **** on the bottom of your shoe.
You mean to say I was created by a piece of dog ****???
Wow! I've got to go back and have a serious talk to my minister!
I totally concur.Someone called Satan is out to get me? No worries, let the bastard try, he hasn't succeeded yet!I certainly won't be losing any sleep over it!
All I know for sure is that we’re here, and if we’ve got any sense we’ll try to look after ourselves, look after each other, and enjoy the life we’ve been given.
All I know for sure is that we’re here...
OK I'm probably going to regret this reply ... but anyway:I said if God is anything, then it's everything. 'Everything' includes the good and the bad, the sacred and the profane, the sweet smelling and the dog **** on your shoe.
Ask your minister to define God for you, so you know exactly what it is you're worshiping. See if he stumbles over his words. Alternatively, you could ask "Did God create the entire universe, or just part of it?" and then when he says "the whole thing", you follow up with "what about this dog **** on my shoe? Is this part of the universe? And what about sin and evil - are they part of the universe?"
I see God as a separate entity from Satan. If God created our universe and the life in it then I guess he's instrumental in creating the sweet smelling and the dog **** on my shoe, but I can't see how God is the dog **** on my shoe.I don't suspect for a moment that God exists as a separate entity. There's far too much evidence against it. God is either everything or not at all... and by everything I mean even the dog **** on the bottom of your shoe.
I think he created our universe, I don't know about any of the others. He probably didn't create his own universe."Did God create the entire universe, or just part of it?"
All part of the battle for hearts and minds, and sadly I get the feeling that Satan is currently ahead on points, but my money is on God.And what about sin and evil
OK I'm probably going to regret this reply ... but anyway:
I think my perception of God is ......
No one can define God but the perception that works best for me is some kind of intelligent spirit/energy probably from a higher dimension, beyond our comprehension,
The Sultan of Brunei has announced tough new Islamic punishments as part of a new sharia penal code.
The punishments, which would only apply to Muslims, include death by stoning for adultery, flogging for drinking alcohol, and severing of limbs for theft.
Sultan Hassanal Bolkiah said the new laws would be enforced from April next year.
"It is because of our need that Allah the almighty, in all his generosity, has created laws for us, so that we can utilise them to obtain justice," the monarch said.
The oil-rich kingdom has been working for several years to introduce the new code.
The 67-year-old sultan has presided over a shift to more conservative Islam and anti-sedition laws in recent years, and said sharia criminal law should be established to work alongside the country's civil law more prominently.
Brunei already enforces Islamic teachings more sternly than its neighbours Malaysia and Indonesia.
Evangelism of other religions and the sale of alcohol is strictly forbidden.
"Brunei is showing its feudal characteristics as an 18th-century state rather than an important member of a regional South East Asian economic and social consensus in the 21st century," said Phil Robertson, deputy Asia director at Human Rights Watch.
Religion commenced before the written word. It came into existence at the first hangover when, awaking from a stupor, the prayer was uttered “Oh God, let me live.”
What I meant was that the higher dimension is beyond our comprehension, well beyond mine at least. I probably inserted one too many commas, sorry. My concept of God is rather vague and is still under construction and certainly open to modification as new ideas are presented.Chris, not arguing against your belief system, but once you say your perception of God is something beyond our comprehension, surely that is the end of what you can possibly say on God. Any possible attempted explanation or perception is superfluous to that statement,
One day, someone might come along and tell us that we've got it all wrong and give us a nice simple explanation that we can all comprehend, but I'm not holding my breath!
I love it when atheists denounce the concept of God by picking selected verses from the Old Testament.
Aaaaaarrrrggggghhh!!!! .... Gringott, you're doing my head in again!!!All the masters say there is no nice simple explanation that will appeal to the mind, only the nice simple experience of Truth, which is actually a "non-experience" since there is no individual left to experience it, only Truth experiencing itself. All questions cease at that point, everything is revealed as 'perfection' and in no need of change.... including evil, pain, suffering and death.
I'll probably be struck down by a bolt of lightning for saying this, but I'm inclined to agree with you ... most certainly the last bit. I remember as a kid in church, when the minister read from the old King James Bible, I had not the foggiest idea what he was talking about most of the time. It (like Shakespeare) was a foreign language to me.The Bible is not a great spiritual book imo. Too hard to decipher and too much rubbish mixed in. If it had been written by Jesus it would be worth something.
You're doing it to me again!!!Be aware that if a teaching makes perfect sense to the conscious mind that it is likely to be false and relative.
Oh please ... I was not denouncing a deity. I was merely pointing out that the Good Book is full of contradictions.
That sounded a bit like a denunciation, albeit a subtle one, to me.Soooo your God is happy for me to kill the children of my enemies by dashing their brains out on a rock? Good day to you Sir !
... I think it's time I printed a new one and added Halloweeners to the list.
That's what I usually do but it's annoying having to sit in the dark in total silence while the little terrors rage up and down the street outside threatening to trash peoples houses unless they're given buckets of lollies.No need. They only come on one day of the year. You can be out for the day, or just pretend!
Jesus was (a Jew), but that's okay because I'm sure he won't hold that against you....
Must confess I don't take much notice of the Old Testament because I'm not a Jew.
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No need.
They only come on one day of the year.
You can be out for the day, or just pretend!
I thought of dressing up as the Grim Reaper and standing out the front with a huge scythe. I wonder if that would work?Yes - out trick or treating with the rest of them! (i.e. "Do unto others before they do unto you!")
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