Reinvigorate ASF as a stock forum

[nioka]

What coming election? Haven't we just concluded one? Are you anticipating the present arrangement will be so short lived?


Yes, obviously you find stocks more interesting than people, so I'm pleased for you that you feel your mission to relegate non-stock threads off the home page has been accomplished.

Coming election? Do you think this government will last the distance?.

My objective was never to get non stock threads off the front page. I wanted more stock chat. I see a lot lot more stock chat. I haven't seen less general chat.
( apart from the fact that the election is over... Thank goodness)

 

[Julia]

Have you considered that if there are more stock threads, this might simply be a reflection of a more positive market environment recently?
Not necessarily a heartfelt wish to accede to your desire.
But hey, I might be absolutely wrong. Frequently I am.

 

[Synergy]

I've haven't read this thread before, but today noticed that things were looking a little better on the forum. I only log in for stock related and technical chat, so had not noticed the lack of general chat on the front page until reading the last few pages in this thread...

So for me the change is a positive one.

Things are certainly quieter around here compared to pre GFC times, but surely a part of that is just a sign of the times? Like the market, activity here is sure to fluctuate.

I would say though, that as a more technical trader, I have found that there is less of real interest to me in recent times. I think this is mostly due to people rather than anything directly forum related though.

 

[nulla nulla]

Personally I don't agree with removing general chat from the home page. It only took up one line showing the most recent posting in one of the "General Chat" threads. However, like the rolling of Kevin Rudd, if the numbers men squawk loud enough and often enough they will eventually get their way.



Thanks Trainspotter, I was able to use the above sooner than I expected.

 

[Ruby]

We used to have some really interesting, genuine and thoughtful exchanges about a variety of subjects in general chat. Sadly, this is now rare.
A life just involved with making money seems a bit empty to me. I've over the years really valued some of the thought-provoking discussions we've had.

I have not been a member for nearly as long as some of the other people who have contributed to this thread, so I cannot look back over a long period of time and make comparisons about the quality of discussions, but I wonder if it is just a cyclical thing? People come and go, have different things going on in their lives, and sometimes there are more things of general interest to discuss than at other times. Maybe it is just a temporary quiet patch. There can't be scintillating discussions all the time.

It doesn't make a scrap of difference to me whether the general chat is on the front page or not, and I am sure lots of others feel the same. People will find what interests them. If a thread attracts my attention and I feel I have something to say, I join in.

As long as members keep posting and standards are adhered to, the cycle will probably swing up again. If it doesn't it will be because people don't want it to.

 

[noirua]

We used to have some really interesting, genuine and thoughtful exchanges about a variety of subjects in general chat. Sadly, this is now rare.

Absolutely agree with you Julia. We certainly need a second front page. Sadly no one takes any notice of me at all :horse: :aus:

 

[nulla nulla]

Absolutely agree with you Julia. We certainly need a second front page. Sadly no one takes any notice of me at all :horse: :aus:

By extension does that mean we should have a page three as well, complete with lurid photo's of "page three girls"? lol.

 

[nioka]

Absolutely agree with you Julia. We certainly need a second front page. Sadly no one takes any notice of me at all

Not everything will fit on the front page of the daily newspaper. There are those that think sport should be on the front page of their daily.

Bear in mind that this is a stock forum. The advertisers are stock related. Do you suggest for one minute that they will continue to support a FREE forum for general chat. It was obvious that the forum had degenerated to being a forum where stock chat was negligible. It was only a matter of time before nobody would have the facilities of ASF as I saw the situation. I can't see your problem. General chat is easy to access. I do it all the time. (after checking out the stocks which by the way have increased dramatically.

 

[Mr Z]

GG, as long as people conduct themselves in a reasonable way anyone can join and participate in this community. I haven't replaced anyone. People come and go as they please, unless they are shown the door for unreasonable behaviour.

FWIW, you need some grit to produce pearls. PC all the way will kill the place, period, end of story. Aim for controlled kaos... a bar fight with rules, else no one will be challenged in what they believe... everyone agreeing is the most boring thing around and few people can debate properly so somewhat of an argument must be allowed to occur when needs be.

 

[explod]

Not everything will fit on the front page of the daily newspaper. There are those that think sport should be on the front page of their daily.

Bear in mind that this is a stock forum. The advertisers are stock related. Do you suggest for one minute that they will continue to support a FREE forum for general chat. It was obvious that the forum had degenerated to being a forum where stock chat was negligible. It was only a matter of time before nobody would have the facilities of ASF as I saw the situation. I can't see your problem. General chat is easy to access. I do it all the time. (after checking out the stocks which by the way have increased dramatically.

Agree totally with this post.

The front page looks much better with our main task, ie. investing to the fore.

 

[Julia]

Absolutely agree with you Julia. We certainly need a second front page. Sadly no one takes any notice of me at all :horse: :aus:

My point wasn't at all that I wanted general chat threads back on the home page. Accessing via Forums is fine with me.

My lament was rather to do with the diminished content of general chat threads, I think largely because - with all the smart ass contributions, put downs, etc by people who don't seem to have any real interest but just enjoy being disruptive or think they're helluva funny - many previous regular posters have just decided not to bother.

 

[noirua]

Not everything will fit on the front page of the daily newspaper. There are those that think sport should be on the front page of their daily.

Fortunately ASF is not a Daily and the front page can be very long indeed - at least I think it can; maybe from that the answer comes.

 

[Wysiwyg]

Very quiet here like some curse has been cast over ASF. Anyone hearing 'don't post on ASF'? Over 250 online at this moment yet no one wants to post. I suppose if the guests are from overseas and don't speak english or fear posting then that eliminates most of the potential posts. Relaxing the pump and dump forum rules could increase poster interactions but unfortunately also the disagreement.

 

[DaveDaGr8]

No, but a lot of the interesting threads over the last year got absolutely railroaded. 3 or 4 times we tried to make a good Python / ML / Quant thread and each time people came in and posted totally off topic and dragged the thread down.

This bullying and bitching has probably stopped people from starting new threads, i know it's stopped me from persuing another thread on this topic or even contributing when i have something to say.

Unfortunately I haven't seen Howard here since and i haven't seen another quant thread recently. This is a growing field and should be discussed, whether you agree with the method or not yet it's not discussed here anymore.

YES it is discussed on other forums

 

[Parse]

(Puts crystals, stones and the Book of Shadows to one side) It wasn't me honest! I was trying to divinate the Nov stock pick winner, not lay a curse

 

[sptrawler]

The stock related post aren't prolific, unlike some other forums, but there doesn't seem to be the ramping problem either.
On the stocks I follow, the info is usually good and constructive, the general chat can get somewhat overpowering.

 

[Wysiwyg]

The internet (and life?) is rife with compulsive liars, exaggerators, deception, stealth, misleaders, fire lighters and unsubstantiated claimers. Disagreement stems from these while facts, honesty and explanation are what fosters good communication.

 

[systematic]

No, but a lot of the interesting threads over the last year got absolutely railroaded....

...This bullying and bitching has probably stopped people from starting new threads, i know it's stopped me from persuing another thread on this topic or even contributing when i have something to say.

I must admit, this describes me to quite a degree.

I check the home page, probably a couple of times a day still. But as I'm not into the 'General Chat,' that means I'm not interested in 90%(?) of threads. I'll open a stock related thread if it seems interesting. But I think I've started getting so used to not posting / interacting that there are now times where, like you said above, I don't bother contributing as much anymore, even when I have something to say.

I think my interest took a big drop after that ridiculous thread that I believe was the last that craft posted in.

 

[So_Cynical]

There has been a large shift away from the old forum and message board type of sites, everything now seems to consolidate to one big player leaving just a small space for others.

 

[Wysiwyg]

Good point. The social media site uptake may have overtaken the forum communication method.