Reinvigorate ASF as a stock forum

[Calliope]

I think GumbyLearner hit on the reason why certain posters are conducting a campaign against Gen.Chat.

I agree that this forum has been hi-jacked with politics.

I would prefer this to be forum where I can read threads I'm interested in.

Surely the mods could come up with a piece of code that would block out the political banter. So that the helpful contributors could be focused on!

It is obvious from the thread on the 2010 Election Poll that posters favoured the Coalition over Labor by nearly six to one.

This should not worry Stock posters. It is only natural that most posters to a Stock Forum come from the conservative side of politics. After all the stock market is the most popular avenue for access to free enterprise.

 

[Wysiwyg]

Ultimately the stock threads are about imparting technical or fundamental observations. Taking time out to do this is mostly to help others although a dash of self-serving is also present.

 

[nioka]

Ultimately the stock threads are about imparting technical or fundamental observations. Taking time out to do this is mostly to help others although a dash of self-serving is also present.

I'd like to think that it is the SHARING of information is the reason to post. Informed trading and investing does away with the blindfold and the pin and is more likely to be successful.

 

[Logique]

An analogy: a retail strip that includes a vibrant cafe scene will draw more shoppers, who in turn will open their wallets and spend in the furniture outlet, the deli or the bookstore. General Chat is the cafe scene of ASF. These folks visit the other forums, and will share their largesse in the form of advice and analysis, and put us onto some good stocks.

Joe is quite right to demand links and charts in forum replies, and to moderate out offensive comments. He sees the value of focusing on how things are said, rather than just where.

 

[nioka]

An analogy: a retail strip that includes a vibrant cafe scene will draw more shoppers, who in turn will open their wallets and spend in the furniture outlet, the deli or the bookstore. General Chat is the cafe scene of ASF. These folks visit the other forums, and will share their largesse in the form of advice and analysis, and put us onto some good stocks.

Joe is quite right to demand links and charts in forum replies, and to moderate out offensive comments. He sees the value of focusing on how things are said, rather than just where.

A retail strip that only houses a cafe is doomed to failure. It needs an anchor tennant.

 

[wayneL]

A retail strip that only houses a cafe is doomed to failure. It needs an anchor tennant.

But do you want Myers or Red Spot?

 

[Ruby]

A retail strip that only houses a cafe is doomed to failure. It needs an anchor tennant.

Noika, I thought Logique drew a good analogy, and your negative comment was unhelpful.

As you are so keen to see more market related posts (and I am sure we would all like that) then perhaps you could get things moving by writing a thought-provoking article every day on a different subject - something that will generate some discussion, or share a particular view you have, or pass on some of your knowledge. Anything that will encourage people to respond and then perhaps to do the same thing would be good.

I am not being facetious. If the content of the forum is to be improved then we all need to participate, and sometimes it takes the initiative of one person to shift the mass inertia.

 

[sam76]

Don't like it, don't read it.

no one has a gun to your head

 

[nioka]

Noika, I thought Logique drew a good analogy, and your negative comment was unhelpful.

As you are so keen to see more market related posts (and I am sure we would all like that) then perhaps you could get things moving by writing a thought-provoking article every day on a different subject - something that will generate some discussion, or share a particular view you have, or pass on some of your knowledge. Anything that will encourage people to respond and then perhaps to do the same thing would be good.

I am not being facetious. If the content of the forum is to be improved then we all need to participate, and sometimes it takes the initiative of one person to shift the mass inertia.

Please dont see my comment as negative.I can't imagine why you would see it that way. I agree with Logique's anology but it was only one side of the story. I posted another. Stocks are the anchor tennant on ASF.

As for getting things moving... This subject has generated more discussion than any other topic in recent times including Rudd, Abbott and Gillard.

As for stocks, I post my fair share on them. Actually started the AUT stock thread years ago and it is getting more attention here than any other. LYC is another of my pet stocks, I started that thread. I have always shared my knowledge as will be seen on a lot of the stock threads, particularly in swap trading AUT,ADI and EKA. I have two projects going at this stage that get my updates. "turning $5,000 into $50,000 in 2 years" and "investing $1500. is it worthwhile". Check them out.

 

[Ruby]

Please dont see my comment as negative.

OK, I won't then. No offence meant.

As for stocks, I post my fair share on them. Actually started the AUT stock thread years ago and it is getting more attention here than any other. LYC is another of my pet stocks, I started that thread. I have always shared my knowledge as will be seen on a lot of the stock threads, particularly in swap trading AUT,ADI and EKA. I have two projects going at this stage that get my updates. "turning $5,000 into $50,000 in 2 years" and "investing $1500. is it worthwhile". Check them out.

In that case, I am happy to give credit where it is due. My attention has not been drawn to those threads, but that is not negating them.

To put it another way, it is up to those who wish to see more market-related threads to take it upon themselves to re-invigorate the forum, and the more quality threads that appear, the more others will be encouraged to participate. Also, if there were fewer put-downs (and I am not pointing the finger anywhere) people might be less reticent.

 

[Julia]

Don't like it, don't read it.

no one has a gun to your head

Yes, it seems so simple, doesn't it.

As for getting things moving... This subject has generated more discussion than any other topic in recent times including Rudd, Abbott and Gillard.

I agree. This thread has generated a large volume of posts. It has also effectively killed any interesting threads and intelligent political observations in general chat. It has also generated posts so abusive that they have been removed.

Just one question, Nioka, you have made several references to how much better the stock posts are at HotCopper. I can't help wondering why you don't just stick with that site if it's so superior to ASF?

As for stocks, I post my fair share on them. Actually started the AUT stock thread years ago and it is getting more attention here than any other. LYC is another of my pet stocks, I started that thread. I have always shared my knowledge as will be seen on a lot of the stock threads, particularly in swap trading AUT,ADI and EKA. I have two projects going at this stage that get my updates. "turning $5,000 into $50,000 in 2 years" and "investing $1500. is it worthwhile". Check them out.

That's a very fair comment. You do post in some detail about what you are doing and the rationale behind it. But it doesn't necessarily follow that others are going to be interested in doing similarly.

 

[nioka]

Just one question, Nioka, you have made several references to how much better the stock posts are at HotCopper. I can't help wondering why you don't just stick with that site if it's so superior to ASF?.

You assume Hot copper. I cant remember naming the "other" forum. If I did it was another mistake as I don't believe in giving the opposition a free add. Why dont I stick to the "other" forum ?. Not sure if I have an answer but if there is one it is probably that I am an Aussie that sticks up for someone not getting a fair go. I dont believe that Joe and his baby , ASF, were getting a fair go. Probably why I read the labels and try and buy Australian made.

I'm not satisfied that having general chat seperated is a good idea. I just wanted to see more stock posts and did /do not want any seperation. ( Joe if you are listening, it may be time to reconsider that arrangement as it seems to be causing some division in members and not just in posts)

 

[Calliope]

I am an Aussie that sticks up for someone not getting a fair go. I dont believe that Joe and his baby , ASF, were getting a fair go.

And that is the fault of whom? Could it be those dreadful general chat posters who are impeding everyone but you from posting quality stock advice? Fair go?

Fair suck of the sauce bottle.

 

[nioka]

And that is the fault of whom? Could it be those dreadful general chat posters who are impeding everyone but you from posting quality stock advice? Fair go?

Fair suck of the sauce bottle.

We evidently have different brands of sauce.

Tell me if I have EVER wanted to get rid of general chat posts. Show me where I said that. I partake in them as you well know. All I ask for is more stock posts for I am SURE that this forum would not last unless the stock forum side improved. I never suggested less chat threads although there are more rubbish posts there than could be the case with stock posts with the rules on posting re stocks. Fair go.. I am not pointing blame. I am stating fact as I see it.

 

[Calliope]

... there are more rubbish posts there than could be the case with stock posts with the rules on posting re stocks.

I agree. I think that rubbish threads should be nipped in the bud before they can get off the ground, in an adult forum like ASF.

 

[nunthewiser]

This is from another forum

do we really want this sort of crap here just in the name of creating more posts on stocks?

Traders are starting to get a wiff SUR with good support in the sp of late and some strong buying , not much research needed as it's a Company Maker and holding 50 %.

I see where you are coming from re stock posts but geez the only reason the "other" forum got so many is because crap like this is allowed to be posted.

 

[nulla nulla]

Maybe all of the posters who think this site needs fixing could nominate a share and then take reponsibility for making a weekly post, under that share, providing the forum members with an up-to-date status report of their share?

 

[noirua]

I find I only post on the stock threads now as I usually only responded to a General thread if it was on the front page. Probably reduced my posts by about 40% - 50%, maybe more. Badly needs a page 2 for all the recent posts on the non-stock threads, imho.
If a poster has half-a-dozen stocks and none are doing much, there seems little interest in coming to ASF, imho again.

 

[explod]

I find I only post on the stock threads now as I usually only responded to a General thread if it was on the front page. Probably reduced my posts by about 40% - 50%, maybe more. Badly needs a page 2 for all the recent posts on the non-stock threads, imho.
If a poster has half-a-dozen stocks and none are doing much, there seems little interest in coming to ASF, imho again.

Rubbish, how easy it is to flick over to the Chat threads, and my post count has not changed, love it all.

So you not only want your icecream now you need us to feed you too.

 

[prawn_86]

Dont forget, if you simply click 'New Posts' in the menu bar across the top it will list all the posts, both general and stock chat.

It's actually the only list i look at personally, i barely ever use the homepage