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QAN - Qantas Airways

can never get the numbers to crunch attractively ( for me ) on IVC

unless the debt is secured by property holdings ( and i can't find the answer to that question ) the debt looks scary to me ( the same reason i exited the inherited QAN )
 

Qantas flags $1.1b first-half loss​


 
Just some fundamental information on QAN, and you cannot get more fundamental than this.

A young lady, a lithesome backpacker from Guernsey and I were about to travel to Brisbane.

I say, "were", as we cancelled. She said she wouldn't mind spending a day or two in quarantine with me should we be sat beside a foreigner, a Victorian or a NSWzir with Omicron, on the flight, and had to subsequently quarantine. There was no way however she would spend two weeks.

I wonder how many QAN passengers have backpacker girlfriends from Guernsey?

And who have had flights booked and get the wobblies.

gg
 
New planes for QANTAS

QANTAS GROUP ANNOUNCES MAJOR AIRCRAFT ORDER TO SHAPE ITS FUTURE
  • Approval of Project Sunrise, with order for 12 x Airbus A350s capable of flying direct from Australia to any other city including New York and London, starting from Sydney in late 2025.
  • Domestic fleet renewal from late 2023, with order for 40 x A321XLRs and A220 aircraft; 94 purchase order rights spread over at least a decade.
  • Major improvements in emissions, running costs and passenger comfort vs retiring aircraft.
  • No change to FY23 capital guidance; structure of orders to align with Group Financial Framework1 .
2 May 2022: The Qantas Group has today announced several major fleet decisions that will reshape its international and domestic networks over the next decade and beyond.
These decisions will also improve journeys for millions of people every year, and create over 1,000 jobs as well as many career progression opportunities at the national carrier.
Domestically, Qantas will start the renewal of its narrow body jets as part of ‘Project Winton’ with firm orders for 20 Airbus A321XLRs and 20 A220-300s as its Boeing 737s and 717s are gradually retired. The first of these aircraft will start to arrive in late calendar 2023, with the order including purchase right options for another 94 aircraft for delivery through to at least 2034. Internationally, 12 Airbus A350-1000s will be ordered to operate non-stop ‘Project Sunrise’ flights from Australia to other cities including New York and London.
These aircraft will feature market-leading passenger comfort in each travel class with services scheduled to start by the end of calendar 2025 from Sydney. All of these next generation aircraft – through their lower emissions, longer range, less noise and better economics – will improve how people travel around Australia and overseas. Customers can expect more direct routes and therefore less total travel time.
They can expect higher levels of cabin comfort. And, particularly on domestic and regional routes, they can expect more choice of flights at different times of day due to different size aircraft for peak and off-peak times.

Qantas is pushing the button on its much anticipated Project Sunrise flights, announcing the routes and aircraft order to make the ultra long haul services such as a non-stop Sydney to London flight a reality.
Details will be revealed at one of the airline’s hangars in Sydney Airport on Monday where a brand new Airbus A350-1000 will touch down.

The aircraft, painted in Qantas livery made the journey from Airbus headquarters in Toulouse, France over the weekend.

Up to a dozen of the long range jets will be ordered by Qantas in addition to 40 A320neo and A220 jets for domestic flights.

Qantas chief executive Alan Joyce has been planning Project Sunrise for five-years, and staged a series of research flights in 2019.

Mr Joyce has described the flights from Australia’s east coast to some of the biggest cities in the world as the last frontier in aviation, and said they would cement Qantas’s place as an industry pioneer.

“New types of aircraft make new things possible,” said Mr Joyce. “That’s what makes today’s announcement so significant for the national carrier and a country like Australia where air travel is crucial.”

He said throughout Qantas’s history the aircraft they flew “defined the era they were in”.

“The 707 introduced the jet age, the 747 democratised air travel and the A380 brought a new level of comfort,” said Mr Joyce.

“The A350 and Project Sunrise will make any city just one flight away from Australia.”

The non-stop research flights from New York to Sydney and London to Sydney helped test the optimum timing of meal services, sleep and activities to make the 19 to 20-hour flights tolerable.

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An Airbus A350-1000 flight test aircraft flies over Sydney Harbour on Monday.
Services on those routes were now slated to start from late 2025, a year later than initially planned.

Despite the Covid pandemic delaying the start, the concept of the non-stop flights was expected to be even more popular with passengers keen to avoid stopovers in hubs like Dubai, LA or Singapore.

In a separate announcement, Qantas also delivered a third quarter trading update to the ASX, saying the airline was seeing a strong sustained recovery in travel demand. The shares rallied on the news, climbing 3.2 per cent to $5.78 in morning trade.

Underlying earnings before interest and tax, is expected to be between $450 and $550m for the second half of the 2022 financial year, in a dramatic turnaround from the first half figure of a $245m underlying loss.

The airline group reduced net debt from $6.4bn at the height of the pandemic to below pre-Covid levels at $4.5bn at the end of April.

The update noted that demand for domestic travel had exceeded expectations and international travel was experiencing a gradual recovery as various countries eased restrictions.

Bookings for London, LA, Johannesburg and Bali were particularly strong and freight volumes remained much higher than pre-Covid.

Qantas Loyalty continued to be a standout for the group, with earnings tipped to almost double from the third to fourth quarter.


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@JohnDe
Now we know where all that JobKeeper money went (most of it). Pity a few staff weren't kept on to respond when things picked up again. (what do you mean; couldn't anticipate the demand, bookings would have given a fair idea??)

Yep, the new A350-1000 flew low over the city this morning. Interesting how they can get clearance, so easily (ditto, cruise liners returning after an absence getting rent-a-crowd publicity)

N
 
Qantas will continue to wane because of systemic issues within and between it's executives, board and workforce.

It's CEO has generously lowered his salary from the times preceding Covid of $10m plus and is now eking out a living on just about $2m per annum.

https://au.finance.yahoo.com/news/qantas-salary-alan-joyce-061223788.html

In October 2019 pre-pandemic he was reported to be earning just short of $24m per annum.

https://www.news.com.au/finance/wor...y/news-story/077637288a651612d7949e80fab32e29

No wonder Qantas workers are striking for higher wages and punters who are unwise enough not to fly Virgin and pay extra for the flight and a bun are being threatened with increased fares.

The remuneration of Australian companies' CEO, CFO and other executive and board members are not peculiar to Qantas.

To avoid recession there needs to be a cap on executive and board pay of all Australian companies and it needs to be under $750k.

They are not worth what they are getting today.

gg
 
I found Joyce an odd choice to begin with, small man syndrome, but nicer, like a good little leprechaun...
 
I found Joyce an odd choice to begin with, small man syndrome, but nicer, like a good little leprechaun...
Nicer, the ultimate POS for me.nothing but revulsion anyone, he is not alone.
A company i avoid even if it cost me more..but sadly often unavoidable
 
Another huge loss for Qantas, although not too surprising given the COVID related disruptions it continued to face in FY22, as well as their recent difficulties dealing with the surge in travel demand.

The company did announce a $400m on-market buyback, and are forecasting a return to profitability next financial year.

All trading carries risk, but with the stock trading near support around $4.50, it will be interesting to see if the forward guidance encourages buyers to step-in, or breaks to the downside on disappointing earnings.
 

I don't often quote the ABC...

During his long reign, he's presided over a cumulative loss of $2.8 billion, hardly the kind of performance that would earn anyone the accolades of the business world

Through all this, Joyce has had the backing of government to the point where Qantas can boast that it has received more taxpayer welfare than any other company in the nation's history.


Maybe politicians access to the chairmans lounges is responsible for much of the handouts?
 

I don't often quote the ABC...

During his long reign, he's presided over a cumulative loss of $2.8 billion, hardly the kind of performance that would earn anyone the accolades of the business world

Through all this, Joyce has had the backing of government to the point where Qantas can boast that it has received more taxpayer welfare than any other company in the nation's history.


Maybe politicians access to the chairmans lounges is responsible for much of the handouts?

The ABC (Radio National) also mentioned that Qantas is one of only a few private airlines competing against state owned airlines that do not have to answer to share holders or pay dividends while updating their fleet.

List of government-owned airlines


Reluctantly sold my holding last week, but the funds are going into an exciting (for my partner & I) project that has been a long tie coming.
 
I said to someone on Monday this week that Qantas should have a good week.
Qantas isn't a buy for me for ethical reasons, but that's just me and my quirks.

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I said to someone on Monday this week that Qantas should have a good week.
Qantas isn't a buy for me for ethical reasons, but that's just me and my quirks.

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I just wonder what the future is for a company which is a woke symbol, yet whose actual existence is in conflict with the Reset, has created a lot of bad press since covid and is now in my blacklist for any booking i do or recommend family to fly with..and i am not the only one...
 
Good afternoon
It has been reported today (07/11/22) that analysts at Macquarie predict faster than expected "snap-back in earnings" could see Qantas buying back up to $800m of its shares before dividends return and the airline starts paying taxes in the second half of financial year 2024.

Very interesting.

Kind regards
rcw1
 
Does Qantas have a systemic problem related to aircraft maintenance ?

What could the potential effect on its share price be ?

A lot of planes sat around for a lot of time during covid, things that are kept warm and operating have predictable issues, things that sit around in the open getting cold, damp, wet, warm get a whole different set of problems, most of which are unexpected. :2twocents
 
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