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Personally I use a family trust and both my partner and I agreed from the start that we would provide a property for each other to live in and that all other assets will remain in trust for our children. It cost us under $500 to set up, but any legal arrangement will incur a fee.
Why would you want to spend the rest of your life with someone you dont trust? You can agree on an outcome but i think making legally binding arrangements cheapens the marriage, like you expect its going to end. Bottom line IMO is just marry the right girl, and then don't spend a thought on whether she would try to screw ya financially. That kind of thinking probably would cause it to end. Going around hiding assets or sneakily limiting her access to them... sounds like a paper thin marriage to me, sorry
im 20 years old, ive done the long term thing but im about as faithful as an aethiest during lent....
What time frame is a short term relationship then? Just in and out?
im 20 years old, ive done the long term thing
Supposedly, a woman posted the following personal ad on Craigslist:
Supposedly, a woman posted the following personal ad on Craigslist:
What am I doing wrong?
Okay, I’m tired of beating around the bush. I’m a beautiful (spectacularly beautiful) 25-year-old girl. I’m articulate and classy. I’m not from New York. I’m looking to get married to a guy who makes at least [a] half a million a year. I know how that sounds, but keep in mind that a million a year is middle class in New York City, so I don’t think I’m overreaching at all.
Are there any guys who make 500K or more on this board? Any wives? Could you send me some tips? I dated a businessman who makes average around 200 - 250K. But that’s where I seem to hit a roadblock. 250,000K won’t get me to Central Park West. I know a woman in my yoga class who was married to an investment banker and lives in Tribeca, and she’s not as pretty as I am, nor is she a great genius. So what is she doing right? How do I get to her level?
Here are my questions specifically:
- Where do you single rich men hang out? Give me specifics- bars, restaurants, gyms.
- What are you looking for in a mate? Be honest guys, you won’t hurt my feelings.
- Is there an age range I should be targeting (I’m 25)?
- Why are some of the women living lavish lifestyles on the Upper East Side so plain? I’ve seen really “plain Jane” boring types who have nothing to offer married to incredibly wealthy guys. I’ve seen drop dead gorgeous girls in singles bars in the East Village. What’s the story there?
- Jobs I should look out for? Everyone knows ”” lawyer, investment banker, doctor. How much do those guys really make? And where do they hang out? Where do the hedge fund guys hang out?
- How you decide marriage vs. just a girlfriend? I am looking for MARRIAGE ONLY.
Please hold your insults ”” I’m putting myself out there in an honest way. Most beautiful women are superficial; at least I’m being up front about it. I wouldn’t be searching for these kind of guys if I wasn’t able to match them ”” in looks, culture, sophistication, and keeping a nice home and hearth.
The response she got was as follows:
Dear Pers-431649184:
I read your posting with great interest and have thought meaningfully about your dilemma. I offer the following analysis of your predicament. Firstly, I’m not wasting your time, I qualify as a guy who fits your bill; that is I make more than $500K per year. That said, here’s how I see it:
Your offer, from the prospective of a guy like me, is plain and simple a crappy business deal. Here’s why. Cutting through all the B.S., what you suggest is a simple trade: you bring your looks to the party, and I bring my money. Fine, simple. But here’s the rub ”” your looks will fade and my money will likely continue into perpetuity … in fact, it is very likely that my income increases but it is an absolute certainty that you won’t be getting any more beautiful!
So, in economic terms, you are a depreciating asset and I am an earning asset. Not only are you a depreciating asset, your depreciation accelerates! Let me explain: you’re 25 now and will likely stay pretty hot for the next 5 years, but less so each year. Then the fade begins in earnest. By 35, stick a fork in you!
So in Wall Street terms, we would call you a trading position, not a buy and hold … hence the rub … marriage. It doesn’t make good business sense to “buy you” (which is what you’re asking) so I’d rather lease. In case you think I’m being cruel, I would say the following: if my money were to go away, so would you, so when your beauty fades I need an out. It’s as simple as that. So a deal that makes sense is dating, not marriage.
Separately, I was taught early in my career about efficient markets. So, I wonder why a girl as “articulate, classy and spectacularly beautiful” as you has been unable to find your sugar daddy. I find it hard to believe, if you are as gorgeous as you say you are, that the $500K hasn’t found you, if not only for a tryout. By the way, you could always find a way to make your own money and then we wouldn’t need to have this difficult conversation.
With all that said, I must say you’re going about it the right way. Classic “pump and dump.” I hope this is helpful, and if you want to enter into some sort of lease, let me know.
Interesting story. It's easy to say, "Stay away from these women." However, this women is obviously not going to go up to a man and say, "I am a gold-digger. Give me your money." She is going to be more deceptive than that. How can you be certain that the woman you love is not really deceiving you? This is clearly an adverse selection problem. Someone needs to come up with gold-digger insurance. You pay a premium to the insurance provider and if you do happen to get a divorce, get the insurance firm to fund it.Supposedly, a woman posted the following personal ad on Craigslist:
What am I doing wrong?
Okay, I’m tired of beating around the bush. I’m a beautiful (spectacularly beautiful) 25-year-old girl. I’m articulate and classy. I’m not from New York. I’m looking to get married to a guy who makes at least [a] half a million a year. I know how that sounds, but keep in mind that a million a year is middle class in New York City, so I don’t think I’m overreaching at all.
Are there any guys who make 500K or more on this board? Any wives? Could you send me some tips? I dated a businessman who makes average around 200 - 250K. But that’s where I seem to hit a roadblock. 250,000K won’t get me to Central Park West. I know a woman in my yoga class who was married to an investment banker and lives in Tribeca, and she’s not as pretty as I am, nor is she a great genius. So what is she doing right? How do I get to her level?
Here are my questions specifically:
- Where do you single rich men hang out? Give me specifics- bars, restaurants, gyms.
- What are you looking for in a mate? Be honest guys, you won’t hurt my feelings.
- Is there an age range I should be targeting (I’m 25)?
- Why are some of the women living lavish lifestyles on the Upper East Side so plain? I’ve seen really “plain Jane” boring types who have nothing to offer married to incredibly wealthy guys. I’ve seen drop dead gorgeous girls in singles bars in the East Village. What’s the story there?
- Jobs I should look out for? Everyone knows — lawyer, investment banker, doctor. How much do those guys really make? And where do they hang out? Where do the hedge fund guys hang out?
- How you decide marriage vs. just a girlfriend? I am looking for MARRIAGE ONLY.
Please hold your insults — I’m putting myself out there in an honest way. Most beautiful women are superficial; at least I’m being up front about it. I wouldn’t be searching for these kind of guys if I wasn’t able to match them — in looks, culture, sophistication, and keeping a nice home and hearth.
Thats excellent whitey.g
Always remember, if it f****, floats or flies its cheaper to rent it.
Did I read that right? She wanted to be beaten up?If a Doctor told you there was a 60% chance the Op would fail and a 80% you would get an infection what would you say.. they are the odds of a marriage working. I was married for 19 yr built a new home on the beach and 3 mths later she met a bloke who beat her up so she took of with him I could have done that but i didn't know she liked it. we lost about 2 M between us now both on the bones of our ass hence selling my house to get funds to try trading.
Marriages can fail in their 80's
Me I would open an account TELL NO ONE TELL NO ONE you have it.. pump as much as you can in to it and hope for thew best. if the marriage works when you retire you have a nest egg. don't have kids as CSA will take 18% plus of your income.
Its called pussy power the one with the pussy has the power. look at how many women get out of court cases over murder. Pre nups don't stand up in th Family court.
Yer she loved the man so much he would lock her in cupboard and go hunting on a Saturday night in case the relationship fell over he was insanely jealous.
My ex like her Father was so mean with money she would tear up rags to save money on Tampons... so mean we lost about 2 M sold the beach house for 290 and it sold a few months ago for $800K.
Check out their parents and look for any signs even the things you think are funny could be a OCD her Father was mean he put in new carpet and would wait for the son to bring his Vacuum clean around sad part is my kids have got it as well just like some medical condition.
E mail and I will send you a test from Kings college which may help... but it won't show mood swings this is the biggest decision of you life bar none and it could cost you your life.
Hard as it is any sign walk away qnd keep looking its a real lucky dip and when they go they cost you 20-30 + years of savings and work.
Out of 5 kids (last one she decide to have a kid and not tell me ) only 1 talks to me the rest have NO emotions at all.
If they havent got a sense of Humour is a bad sign
Gee so I'm not the only one to suffer at the hands of an OCD sufferer, I wont go into detail but it was hell right up to the point she cheated on me, I'm out of it now but it has effected my whole life. Kids are ok thank goodness.
Yes think with your head not your c**k, it is the biggest decision you'll ever make I wish you well, put your assets in a Trust, see a lawyer.
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