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In NSW the clubs are just great...when i haven't lived in NSW ive really missed the clubs, cheap food, free wifi, free buses, free/cheap entertainment free or cheap as, this and that....ya just don't get that anywhere else, and the pokies pay for that.
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There is no maximum as far as I know. The problem is social pokie players don't want to register on a government database so they will opt out.
Gee whiz tech/a, I hope your trading profits become significant. The big lotto win could be a long way off and you might be still here in 10 years time..Only follow the Melbourne Cup Take out boxed trifectas around $500 (2 yrs ago won $7800 so that doesnt owe me anything --YET).
And am in a syndicate for lotto!
I'm just glad that I'm a TAB punter
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Buy TTS!So they are the ones that got your shirt, Bastards
Well, I thought it was funny, GB.People wanting to play pokies should be required to provide documents outlining their past successes, R:R, expectancy, Sharpe ratio and maximum draw down.
Do you ever write something online and think: why did I write that.... it's not even funny?
Gee whiz tech/a, I hope your trading profits become significant. The big lotto win could be a long way off and you might be still here in 10 years time..
John Howard admitted in 1999 that he was ashamed of pokies. This week Tony Abbott ignored his mentor's view and more than a decade of research into the reforms needed to address problem gambling.
The current debate around pokies reform is not about the choice to have a punt. It's about protecting families from the pain that comes with the addiction to poker machines.
After a decade of research and a comprehensive report by the Productivity Commission, we know the answers to address why 40 per cent of all profits come from problem gambling. We don't need another political debate. We just need to put those most vulnerable in our society first, and deliver poker machine reform because it affects all of us. After illicit drugs, pokies are the second greatest contributor to crime.
Why?Some 86 per cent of problem gambling in Australia is from pokies.- it is possible to lose over $1,200 an hour on modern machines.Because Australia has the highest loss machines in the world
In Western Australia, the absence of pokies has not resulted in an increase in online gambling. In fact, WA has mainland Australia's highest recreation and sports participation rates.
Great article by Tim Costello
No discussion about cheep meals and beers
Abbott turns his back on problem gamblers
What about those myths
http://www.abc.net.au/unleashed/3602514.html
As soon as I read "Tim Costello" I tuned out. That trumpet blowing, egotistical, high and mighty goose doesn't deserve a minute of my time.
I think you are confusing Tim Costello with his brother Peter Costello, in which case your comments are correct.
As soon as I read "Tim Costello" I tuned out. That trumpet blowing, egotistical, high and mighty goose doesn't deserve a minute of my time.
I rate Peter Costello (so do 99% of the population). If he was in power now Australia would be a lot "luckier"
How silly to describe Abbott's stand like this.Great article by Tim Costello
Abbott turns his back on problem gamblers
Couldn't agree more.Nope - know exactly who I am talking about - World Vision etc etc.
I rate Peter Costello (so do 99% of the population). If he was in power now Australia would be a lot "luckier"
Well, whoop de do. I'm all for people who care about the disadvantaged, but Tim Costello lacks the capacity to apply an objective view about most of what he goes on about. Couldn't be more different from his brother.Not sure where you are coming from given Tim Costello has spent a live time being an advocate for the poor, starving and disadvantaged often against the establishment.
Whoever wins the argument, at least some fundamental questions are now being asked around the issue – the most relevant – how is it that some licensed clubs and even entire sports are apparently viable only off the back of problem gamblers? How did it come to that in this country, and can anything be done to reduce that dependency?
Certainly. This applies to anyone wanting to change any behaviour.I think this can be challenged on a couple of fronts. Problem Gamblers are well known for their low presentation rates at counselling services. A lot of existing services are far from capacity - but this is not a good measure of the extent of the problem to say the least. Counselling is effective but only for those who present and who are seriously wanting change.
Agreed. Liberals believe in people taking responsibility for themselves, rather than the nanny state.Knowing this ( which Abbott would) - To then argue for more counselling services etc etc is the most conservative position to take and is basically saying 'let us accept the status quo'. This is of course what the club lobby wants and anyone else who has vested interests in the revenue generated by problem gamblers.
That's the point: we don't know if it will work or not, so why not accept the proposal for a trial before forcing a national alteration of machines or whatever is involved.I dont think anyone expects MPC to 'eliminate' problem gambling - thats an absurd idea - but if it reduces the harm done to a percentage of PG's
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