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No Ordinary Duck
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We have rising interest rates.
If the reserve bank doesnt rise rates the banks will on their own.
So how does it work (the so called cost of Money to banks)
Relative to UK or US or Japanese banks who have interest rates at under 1%
Where do they get their funds?
Hell they cant afford to get any funds according to our banks who keep telling us that money from O/S is Sooooo expensive??
It is???
.25%
Can someone explain this to me what am I missing?
Can someone explain this to me what am I missing?
The fact that all the Big 4 banks reported record (or close to record) profits this year...
If you understand HOW these "profits" were generated, then you would realise that they are actually not bad at all.
Perhaps you would like to actually read some professional commentary on the issue before regurgitating today tonight mantra
The RBA rates you hear about are the overnight cash rate for o/n AUD lending. Banks do use o/n lending to finance short term cash needs, but the tenor of the bank's assets (loans) are, on average, much longer. The longer tenor financing comes from long term wholesale funding and deposits.Hell they cant afford to get any funds according to our banks who keep telling us that money from O/S is Sooooo expensive??
It is???
.25%
Can someone explain this to me what am I missing?
The main short term funding banks use are 90 day bills. They pay a premium to the RBA o/n cash rate to reflect the credit risk. Pre crisis in Australia, a big 4 bank would pay a spread of around 0.07%. This spread peaked at almost 1%.I'm not having a go at the banks at all, but it would be interesting to see how well they would have done had they not raised rates above what the RBA did.
If a company can make profits of course i think they should do it.
The main short term funding banks use are 90 day bills. They pay a premium to the RBA o/n cash rate to reflect the credit risk. Pre crisis in Australia, a big 4 bank would pay a spread of around 0.07%. This spread peaked at almost 1%.
The spreads on their longer tenor debt and deposits grew by even more...
When they raise interest rates that interest rate is for you and I through the bank loans we have.
So other than cash deposits where do the banks get excess funds for expenditure for mortgage lending and business lending---long term.
If they need say 5 billion who do they negotiate with for the cash?
They would negotiate a term for X years.
As I see it they would have fixed loan costs at any one time or is it variable and how does it fluctuate.
Who governs this for the banks?
While Im at it what does the RBA function as?
When they raise interest rates that interest rate is for you and I through the bank loans we have.Effectively giving banks a pay rise if they are paying a fixed rate for loans they already have.
Very simple solution. Get rid of all your loans and then you don't need to worry about it.
WHAT!
Sell the Mcmansion?
NEVER!!!!
lol, the me mentality is coming to bite a few on the bum. In my day we built three bedroom houses.
Now minimum of 3 entertaining areas.
House cost for Rudd $21k FHBG to build in 2009-10 $600000
Look on my face when I buy it off the bank in 2011-12 = priceless
through the bank loans we have.
The scary thought is that almost half of the bank funding in Australia is generated in this way, and the possibility of us getting crowded out of the debt markets as more and more sovereigns and megacorps issue more and more fresh debt (McDonalds 30y at 0.65% anyone?) is growing higher and higher.
Many of the CEOs of the banks have claimed the absolute dependency we have on wholesale debt markets to be the Achilles heel of Australian banking sector. I agree with them. Money markets lock up again, banks can't rollover debt using short-term facilities, game over.
I'm really not having a go at you tech, but in previous posts you've mentioned before how you make more money on one trade than your employees do for a while year. And you've alluded in other ways that cash flow is not a problem.
If these are true, then why on earth would you even bother with loans?
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