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PEN - Peninsula Energy

Re: PEN - Peninsula Minerals

Hi Barney,

I see your point with the market cap issue. PEN has small market cap that could inflate nicely with Wyoming on line and great drill results in South Africa. I am a PEN holder however I am somewhat concerned not so much about the amount of shares currently on issue but rather the amount of options out there, 1.5 billion. This can't be healthy for the share price. You would think most of those 1.5 billion options will be exercised. So yeah we are looking at 3 billion shares on issue down the track. Market cap wise this would still look good by far compared to a Paladin. Yeah its a psychological thing, market cap is the important factor however easy to focus on the number of shares.

I guess also there is a positive to all this, at least PEN have cash to work with down the track when these options are called. I am sure there will be plenty of drilling in South Africa down the track that needs to be paid for. Hopefully it is a killer high grade low depth deposit which can be open pit mined, :).

This stock outside of EXT is the only one really that looks like going into production at some stage. So many rubbish U stocks out there. I reckon PEN management see a chance to earn a fair bit of cash individually out of all this potential, I mean moving from the millionaires club some way onto the billionaires club. Gus has I think 28 million ordinary shares. If U spot price goes for another run, PEN can potentially hit a few dollars. This would make Gus a very wealthy man. Point is I think management has huge incentive to see this thing reach its full potential. All my opinion of course and perhaps somewhat hyped,

Cheers.
 
Re: PEN - Peninsula Minerals

Hi Barney,

I see your point with the market cap issue. PEN has small market cap that could inflate nicely with Wyoming on line and great drill results in South Africa. I am a PEN holder however I am somewhat concerned not so much about the amount of shares currently on issue but rather the amount of options out there, 1.5 billion. This can't be healthy for the share price. You would think most of those 1.5 billion options will be exercised. So yeah we are looking at 3 billion shares on issue down the track. Market cap wise this would still look good by far compared to a Paladin. Yeah its a psychological thing, market cap is the important factor however easy to focus on the number of shares.

I guess also there is a positive to all this, at least PEN have cash to work with down the track when these options are called. I am sure there will be plenty of drilling in South Africa down the track that needs to be paid for. Hopefully it is a killer high grade low depth deposit which can be open pit mined, :).

This stock outside of EXT is the only one really that looks like going into production at some stage. So many rubbish U stocks out there. I reckon PEN management see a chance to earn a fair bit of cash individually out of all this potential, I mean moving from the millionaires club some way onto the billionaires club. Gus has I think 28 million ordinary shares. If U spot price goes for another run, PEN can potentially hit a few dollars. This would make Gus a very wealthy man. Point is I think management has huge incentive to see this thing reach its full potential. All my opinion of course and perhaps somewhat hyped,

Cheers.

Let's not worry about number of shares as barney points out this can be addressed through a share reconsolidation, BLY comes to mind.

Also not worried about hype, if anything more concerned about a takeover as this stock is only beginning its climb before they start producing in 2012.

Many boxes have been ticked recently including JORC resource almost doubled this year, interest from utilities for supply from 2012, and exemplary regulatory progress. Urge anyone who hasn't read this broker report (recognising they are consultants) to take a gander: http://www.peninsulaminerals.com.au/images/peninsul-134--aixoo.pdf. First we take Wyoming, then we take Karoo.

One of the best bets going around IMHO. Go the PEN :)
 
Re: PEN - Peninsula Minerals

Not sure where you people get your information from.

Options on issue 624 million

FPO Shares 1,633 million


A little read as well for you all.

http://www.fostock.com.au/talkingpoint/Uranium101019.pdf

The stocks we favour in the current environment are the uranium exploration companies, most notably Extract Resources (EXT), Peninsula Minerals (PEN) and UraniumSA (USA).

Tide has turned, they have PDN as a SELL and PEN as a BUY
 
Re: PEN - Peninsula Minerals

Not sure where you people get your information from.

Options on issue 624 million

FPO Shares 1,633 million


A little read as well for you all.

http://www.fostock.com.au/talkingpoint/Uranium101019.pdf



Tide has turned, they have PDN as a SELL and PEN as a BUY

Market Capitalisation $78m

Issued Capital 1633.1m
Issued Capital (fully diluted inc. ITM options) 2895.9m
Options 679.8m@$A0.03


Howdy HS, I may be mis-interpreting the In the Money Options, but 2895.9m is the fully diluted figure from Hartleys latest report as at 28th October 2010. It doesn't make a great deal of difference in the overall scheme of things, but just thought I'd clarify where my figures came from .... Don't want other punters to think I'd try and lead them astray on purpose :D
Cheers.
 
Re: PEN - Peninsula Minerals

1,633 million - shares
624 million - Options

= 2,257 m

This does not include unlisted options which make up the difference to 3 billion. You would think most of these unlisted options are held by PEN directors. I guess the logic is to hold onto experienced and skilled U mining staff.

I hope there are not to many CR's to come. Hopefully they sell Raki Raki and get some extra cash that way.

50 mill required for Wyoming capital costs. Not an overly huge amount. Hopefully PEN can get a cornerstone investor and borrow the rest to cover expenses.
 
Re: PEN - Peninsula Minerals

1,633 million - shares
624 million - Options

= 2,257 m

This does not include unlisted options

Correct on the Unlisted Options Ping .... although total is a bit less.

OK, I'm not being pedantic here, but for the sake of being absolutely correct so we Punters know exactly where we stand ... here are the numbers Direct from the Company .... (Thank you Jonathon) ...

PEN Ord 1,637,297,877

PENOA 204,319,726

PENOC 408,928,098

Unlisted Ops 14,000,000

Performance 53,500,000

No further questions your honour ! :D
 
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Hey look I wish there are as minimal unlisted options as possible. If Hartleys say 3 billion, then there must be more unlisted options. I hope there are less but do not think so. Has Harlteys made a mistake??? More clarification is required on this matter. I mean an extra 750 million unlisted options makes some sort of difference. I would love this stock that much more if around 2.2 billion was fully diluted. I don't think it is though.
 
Re: PEN - Peninsula Minerals

Hey look I wish there are as minimal unlisted options as possible. If Hartleys say 3 billion, then there must be more unlisted options. I hope there are less but do not think so. Has Harlteys made a mistake??? More clarification is required on this matter. I mean an extra 750 million unlisted options makes some sort of difference. I would love this stock that much more if around 2.2 billion was fully diluted. I don't think it is though.

Hi Ping ... You may have misconstrued my post as being directed at your figures ... To the contrary, we were on the same wavelength, thats why I referenced the Hartley report at 2895.9 million fully diluted.

Let me clarify what my post was trying to convey ....

This is from the horses mouth so to speak, and I'm sure Jonathon Whyte won't mind cause I mentioned it was to clarify this position on a Forum site ...
(For anyone who doesn't know, Jonathon Whyte is the Company Secretary of PEN)

His response to my asking how many shares/options are currently on issue was:-

Dear ######,

Below are the current shares and options on issue. The Hartleys report total is a projected fully diluted number which incorporates certain assumptions on future equity raisings (using conceptual debt/equity split ratios).

The numbers below are the actual issued capital as at today.


PEN Ord 1,637,297,877

PENOA 204,319,726

PENOC 408,928,098

Unlisted Ops 14,000,000

Performance 53,500,000



Kind Regards

Jonathan


Hope that clarifies Hartleys calculations, and helps anyone who wanted to know the exact figures.

Cheers.
 
Re: PEN - Peninsula Minerals

Thankyou very much Barney that is great news. PEN is a very strong stock. 100 % ownership of Wyoming. The Wyoming operation is on its own huge. If they can get a decent grade in South Africa this company will make many people rich. They are targetting 700-1400 ppm in South Africa. In my opinion anything above 300 ppm will be great. A monster deposit in South Africa with U prices rising, Wyoming coming on line, etc... will see this stock be the next PDN. So many dud U stocks on the markets at the moment. Out of the 70 listed exploration plays or so on the ASX you would have to say EXT and PEN are the only real decent ones. Yeah people talk about BMN, grade to low. People talk about AGS, 25 % stake only. MTN to many issues permitting. PEN is the best of the lot. I have a few friends who are into U stocks and some don't even know about PEN yet??? This is one good thing about PEN if you want to take up a position now, that is, it is still an obscure stock. Not sure how though? This stock has potential to be a dollar plus in years to come without a consolidation and with 3 billion shares on issue.
 
Re: PEN - Peninsula Minerals

Thankyou very much Barney that is great news. PEN is a very strong stock. 100 % ownership of Wyoming. The Wyoming operation is on its own huge. If they can get a decent grade in South Africa this company will make many people rich. They are targetting 700-1400 ppm in South Africa. In my opinion anything above 300 ppm will be great. A monster deposit in South Africa with U prices rising, Wyoming coming on line, etc... will see this stock be the next PDN. So many dud U stocks on the markets at the moment. Out of the 70 listed exploration plays or so on the ASX you would have to say EXT and PEN are the only real decent ones. Yeah people talk about BMN, grade to low. People talk about AGS, 25 % stake only. MTN to many issues permitting. PEN is the best of the lot. I have a few friends who are into U stocks and some don't even know about PEN yet??? This is one good thing about PEN if you want to take up a position now, that is, it is still an obscure stock. Not sure how though? This stock has potential to be a dollar plus in years to come without a consolidation and with 3 billion shares on issue

The company certainly look the goods I agree, and unlike many others, their communication with share holders is excellent.

Considering PDN has a M/C of $3.3 billion, even if PEN achieve a modest market cap of $250 million, their SP will be around 15 cents, which is very good risk vs reward at a current SP of 6 ish :)
 
Re: PEN - Peninsula Minerals

Great movement with the PEN today. On top of the strong share price growth is the good volume. A lot of people who bought down low will be taking profits and allowing a new crop of shareholders in at a higher prices. This stock can do anything at the moment, nothing will surprise me. Plenty of accumulation going on until the thing just pops. These movements hint at the fact Wyoming mining permit is a certainty. I hope we have a great ride in 2011-12. Hard to see typical PEN corrections of the past surfacing again, could be wrong though.

Common joe blow seeing uranium price rising will want to get into unranium. With a little bit of research they will determine that EXT and PEN are the only really good options here on the ASX. Can only see incremental rises in PEN regardless of DOW action.
 
Re: PEN - Peninsula Minerals

A few articles on uranium and Wyoming you may be interested in. Also another brokers report.


Uranium price increase creating opportunities in well placed
exploration companies. Foster Stockbroking.


http://www.fostock.com.au/talkingpoint/Uranium101019.pdf


Nuclear Renaissance: Uranium Miners Nearing Production in Wyoming

http://seekingalpha.com/article/231...-uranium-miners-nearing-production-in-wyoming


Time to Buy Uranium Miners In Wyoming?

http://uraniuminvestingnews.com/5129/time-to-buy-uranium-miners-in-wyoming.html



Uranium Mining in Wyoming

http://uraniuminvestingnews.com/500...ource=UraniumInvestingNews&utm_medium=twitter
 
Re: PEN - Peninsula Minerals

0.059 for todays close, i'm hoping. based on the excellent sales growth and previous track record of PEN we might have a better week next week.
 
Re: PEN - Peninsula Minerals

This one is a no brainer IMHO. Management has a talent for doing everything right as well as and communicting, especially as regards the critical approvals element. We know they have the resource and hard to see uranium not increasing in demand leading up to 2012 production.

Thanks hangseng for the your obsessive updating here and elsewhere. Been accumulating this puppy over past 12 months as a consequence and is in my top three holdings along with PEP 11 and another Wyoming performer.

DYOR folks on this one and consider the energy landscape in 2012 and beyond.

Patience, research and a solid LT selling plan could be well rewarded IMHO, Upmarket :)
 
Re: PEN - Peninsula Minerals

The market general has no idea atm, but Gerard Holden is about to pull together the financials for the BFS and in the wings they wait.

I can see now why they engaged him. As you say donga...
"Management has a talent for doing everything right as well as and communicting"

Watch what they do next ;)
 
Re: PEN - Peninsula Minerals

most companies took a hammering today. PEN holding up quite well. be interesting if good management and fundamentals can take this over priced company back up to the the previous resistance.
 
Re: PEN - Peninsula Minerals

most companies took a hammering today. PEN holding up quite well. be interesting if good management and fundamentals can take this over priced company back up to the the previous resistance.

ROLOL...now that is a baseless glass half empty statement.

Based on what may I ask?
 
Re: PEN - Peninsula Minerals

PEN. has a current Value of 0.03 per share. Therefore, it is overvalued compared to its Price of 0.06 per share. that's what it is based on. nothing half empty about it.
 
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