Peak Oil

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Hey guy's ...
One important thing to keep in mind with regard Fleet turn over. Although ICE vehicals have become more fuel efficent the comparitive cost advantage of EV is in the realms of one third when compared to an ICE vehical.
Take these generics:-(tax issues and maintenace can be discussed elswehere/or not)
Average fuel (similar to that of a large passanger car) consumption of all Aust vehicals is ...13lt/100km.
13lts @ $1.30/lt circa........$16/100km...
A Tesla3(standard size passanger car) consumption 16kw/h per 100km
16kwh @ $0.35/kwh circa..$5.60/100km

For business as rapid a change as possible to EV will be an imperative which hasn't been the case with 'like for like'... And the bigger component oil based fuel is to a business, the BIGGER that imperative.

 

[Smurf1976]

For business use EV's would solve a lot of problems.

I've worked in places with shared "pool" cars and without exception it always comes to the same point. Management finds it necessary to issue a formal direction that no car shall be returned less than a quarter full of fuel. Give it a year and the same direction is issued again following another incident.

Because getting staff to actually put fuel in a shared car seems to always be a problem.

Enforcing an "always plugged in when parked" EV policy would be far easier.

 

[Value Collector]

Agreed.

I'm just always cautious on this issue since I've had the discussion many times with people who for whatever reason miss the difference between "new car sales" and "fleet composition". It comes up quite a bit that one, failing to account for the time to turnover the fleet.

I'm referring to people in general there, not specifically on this forum.

Reminds me of a saying “If you find your self stuck in a hole, the first step to freeing yourself is you stop digging out the bottom of the hole”

the actual date in the future that we find ourselves with a 100% zero emission fleet is not overly important, what is important is first stopping the growth of carbon emissions, and then eventually reducing carbon emissions.

 

[qldfrog]

For business use EV's would solve a lot of problems.

I've worked in places with shared "pool" cars and without exception it always comes to the same point. Management finds it necessary to issue a formal direction that no car shall be returned less than a quarter full of fuel. Give it a year and the same direction is issued again following another incident.

Because getting staff to actually put fuel in a shared car seems to always be a problem.

Enforcing an "always plugged in when parked" EV policy would be far easier.

Except that it remain easier to top up a petrol car, even if with nearly empty tank than jumping on a shared car, plugged in but with still warm seat from previous user, and with a 5% charged battery and 20km range....

 

[moXJO]

Except that it remain easier to top up a petrol car, even if with nearly empty tank than jumping on a shared car, plugged in but with still warm seat from previous user, and with a 5% charged battery and 20km range....

I had problems on jobsites with the EV EWP.
Some bastard would use ours over night and leave it flat.
The diesel ones was easier to get going. But then the trade off of fumes for convenience.

 

[sptrawler]

For business use EV's would solve a lot of problems.

I've worked in places with shared "pool" cars and without exception it always comes to the same point. Management finds it necessary to issue a formal direction that no car shall be returned less than a quarter full of fuel. Give it a year and the same direction is issued again following another incident.

Because getting staff to actually put fuel in a shared car seems to always be a problem.

Enforcing an "always plugged in when parked" EV policy would be far easier.

I think that will be a big issue with emergency service vehicles, if they have two currently, my guess is they will have two + standby when they go BEV.