If our Unis are in trouble it is because they offer too many specialist courses at under-grad level; and each one of these courses requires the obligatory professor, associate professor, their staff, their honours students etc etc. And this costs way too much money to fund their infrastructure.
We need to go back to the basic undergrad degrees of Science, Arts/Humanities; Medical and Dental, Engineering, Law, Economics, Architecture, and probably a couple of others; then, at Post Grad level specialising can kick in.
Too many snouts in the trough at the moment.
Hey Dr J, the problem is that the Uni's are continually crying poor. Yet they fund these incredibly specialist undergrad courses which require the infrastructure that goes along with it. And of course, they dont want to rule themselves out of work. These are the snouts I was talking about, not the students themselves!I really can't see the problem. Large class sizes aren't themselves the problem, but rather the reduced quantity/quality of interaction that implies. I don't know if undergrads have changed since I was there, but most undergrads didn't participate unless they absolutely had to. There was more than enough interaction for those that wanted it.
As usual what you are saying makes a lot of sense. When I was at Uni, none of the now fashionable Mickey Mouse degrees existed. In those days the idea of a degree was to gain a profession that could earn you a living.
In those days the idea of a degree was to gain a profession that could earn you a living.
What is the idea of a degree "these days" then?
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and because it is now a business it has been abused.....and what a joke that is
There are also rumours about pressure to accept below minimal level to let foreign students to continue.
Often evident plagiarism is not picked up.
Many students have such poor English language that you wander what they understand, if at all.
Essays are bought and sold there are switches during the exams.
So true: Factory but with very poor quality control and above all this is back door entry to permanent residency in Australia.
Often evident plagiarism is not picked up.
I went to uni, and im an aussie.
Lets face it, most aussies are under acheivers who dont want to work or study hard anyway, its the australian away. the small perecentage of us who actually want to learn and are ambitious, is not enough to fill a uni, trust me.
Australia has graduated from a country to a race now?A racist post if ever i have saw one.....imagine saying all tongans are underachievers who don't want to work or study....you would be vilified to hell
A racist post if ever i have saw one.....imagine saying all tongans are underachievers who don't want to work or study....you would be vilified to hell
How can i be racist if its my own race? i said MOST, and there is a small percentage of us who actually are ambitious.
its the australian away
beerwm said:luke is definitely right, aussie students.... not all, but by proportion to those of foreign background are underperformers/achievers.
I imagine the same could be said of local and international students anywhere. I would guess that someone sent overseas for uni is probably more likely to be hard working and already an achiever, and probably has parent that expect them to do well. I doubt it's fair to compare local vs international without taking anything else into consideration.
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