skc
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Yes we will need to shrink everything, except earth itself.
Bhutan is one of the happiest nations on earth...
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bhutan
LOL.
Errr......you'd need to "shrink" cars & houses too.
Imagine trying to drive today's "normal" sized cars when you are just 8-10 cm tall??
Or open the front door of your "normal" sized McMansion?
Thanks for boggling my mind this morning skc! Now I feel like scrambled eggs...
Not sure if that post is directed entirely at me, but if so i never mentioned applying anything specifically to the 3rd world.
I have travelled the World too and some of the happiest you will find are in what we would class as over-populated 3rd world countries.
In 2006, Business Week magazine rated Bhutan the happiest country in Asia and the eighth-happiest in the world, based on a global survey.
Not sure if that post is directed entirely at me, but if so i never mentioned applying anything specifically to the 3rd world.
I have travelled the World too and some of the happiest you will find are in what we would class as over-populated 3rd world countries.
In Ethopia they have their children and then watch them starve to death.
Perhaps that comes down to humans being on of the few species i am aware of that have sex for pleasure instead of extending the species. And without adequate birth control Ethopia and the likes are the result.
As a species, we need to do two things.
We need to expand the energy pie and distribute that expanded pie more evenly.
As a species, we need to do two things.
We need to expand the energy pie and distribute that expanded pie more evenly.
We as a world can not keep on growing like this there is going to massive problems in the future.
Since 1960 the world has had a population increase from 3b till todays 7b and is expecting 8b in 2027
http://www.worldometers.info/world-population/
If we redistribute without significant expansion then that is the likely outcome.Logistics aside, what do you think will happen once the pie has been distributed?
This is what will happen: The average Global Citizen will be dirt-poor by First-World standards; scrape-by in areas, where people presently live from hand-to-mouth; and they'll feel really well-to-do - and encouraged to breed even more vigorously - in today's Starvation Zones.
True, in objective terms. But when applied personally, say if you or I had malaria, we'd probably be pretty happy to accept a cure.The problem is that technology is the main culprit in increasing population. Now they are claiming a cure for malaria, which in the past has put a brake on population growth in the third world. And of course technology lets us live way past our use-by dates.
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+1.Can we have a thread that doesnt discuss the carbon tax??
Totally agree, especially when it comes to keeping old people alive against their will.While paying lip service to the dangers of over-population in Asia, Africa, Central and South America, we continue to engage in indulgences like IVF, saving premature and severely disabled babies, keeping alive people who would die without artificial support, or are brain dead. These procedures are vastly expensive and counter productive yet we think the Democratic state is obliged to do these things.
We also indulge ourselves by saving idiots who under Darwin principles should not be allowed to procreate themselves. We pull them out of the surf. we pull them off mountain tops, we rescue them from their unseaworthy boats and we rescue them from floods are fire in areas where they shouldn't be living. We think these are normal democratic entitlements, and the rescuers are called heroes.
So please let us hear no more rubbish about telling the third world how they should limit their populations by harsh laws.
Can we have a thread that doesnt discuss the carbon tax??
Yes, my apologies.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Malthusianism
..Many journalists, academics and other commentators have criticized the neo-malthusian revival on various grounds. In light of the green revolution, which has seen substantial increases in food production, sufficient to keep up with the rapid population growth of the latter 20th century, some of the more dramatic malthusian warnings now appear to many to be overstated..
and why should governments restrict their population growth when its that growth that is allowing their economy to grow so rapidly?
I think lifestyle standards will just continue to decline until it causes war or disease or both
This is an economic issue, and it mainly involves the status of women. It's more complicated, because the status of women doesn't happen overnight, but that seems to be the link. Countires where women have more status and therefore, more education, have more sustainable or even declining birth rates. As women gain ground, birth rates fall, and this is becoming more clear in sectors of emerging economies.
This is an economic issue, and it mainly involves the status of women. It's more complicated, because the status of women doesn't happen overnight, but that seems to be the link. Countires where women have more status and therefore, more education, have more sustainable or even declining birth rates. As women gain ground, birth rates fall, and this is becoming more clear in sectors of emerging economies.
So a significant portion of Brisbane, population 2m+, and just down the road from you, should be abandoned.We also indulge ourselves by saving idiots who under Darwin principles should not be allowed to procreate themselves. We pull them out of the surf. we pull them off mountain tops, we rescue them from their unseaworthy boats and we rescue them from floods are fire in areas where they shouldn't be living. We think these are normal democratic entitlements, and the rescuers are called heroes.
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