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bozot said:
So Joe u following NWT as well..
It was posted 22/02/07 Explain how you know it is 3 months old?
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Bozot - Yes I follow NWT. I started the original MUL thread back in 2004 and I have traded it multiple times, winning twice and losing once.

The reason I know the information is three months old is because if you follow the link I posted (http://www.ameinfo.com/102279.html), the same story is dated November 18, 2006, which actually makes it a tad over three months old.
 
Based on the announcements to date, they are cash positive, (also EBITA is positive) so they should be accumulating cash from operating activities. as to whether the bank account is is increasing is dependent on what they are doing. They could be spending on capital. They have indicated that they are spending on earth stations to service long term space contracts. So while no money in the bank is being spent on assets to generate more revenue and hopefully profit


Sold airworks for $7m, got $2m straight away and another $5m on a deferred basis

Based on above hypothesis based on their minimilistic announcements, they should be rolling in cash.

however, this is a hypothsis only as there are no announcements to confirm or deny.

Again from the minimilistic approach in their announcements, the announcement should be next week. And we are wating.

with the lack of announcements everything is no involving conspiracy theroies dealing with executive options, AB buying through trusts etc etc etc.

As has been said before, the approach being taken by NWT is somewhat unusual, leading to views that it is making millions or alternatively losing millions.

Dont have the answer yet, next week, hopefully, will give us something concrete.

given I am the 'hopefulone', my prediction is:

positve operating cashflow of $5m
profit of $2m (excluidng airworks sale), assuming $3m depreciation expense.
Overall cash flow is $4m, being the $5m less $3m capital expendiutre plus $2m airworks cash.

convertiable notes payment is cancelled by the issue of shares.

just need to wait and see now.

good luck to us all that are holding, as we really need something.

:2twocents :banghead: :confused: :rolleyes:
 
Re: NWT - Newsat not what was expected

Very disappointing when you consider the announcements. Has started to turnaround but not what was expected.

Would have expected that they would include a further announcement on future given the poor result.

Seems that dammed if you keep the shares as they may underperform, dammed to sell the shares at a loss only to see the price rise.

Need to put in bottom draw and not worry, not speculate just wait for the results. Gather we need to wait till sept 07 now.

New login will now be 'nothopefulanymore' :banghead: :confused: :mad: :(
 
Granted the market is riding rough shot atm, but personally im a little peeved, more than disappointed, in this lot. Read the posts on hc that mirror my feelings...only $2m increase in revenue over the half, but more importantly, the false signals regarding ebita really got my goat. Too busy to really go thru with a fine tooth comb, but at a glance, not happy...only +ive is that revenues did increase, they better be able to carry it forward.
 
At least we now know were we stand. A lot of write offs in there. I expect another ann soon with a forecast or even a letter to shareholders day b4 ann like they have done in the past.
Overall a bit disapointing but we are better than 9.8 mill loss. Is the airworks & MTD money in there? 5 mill to come..that cant be bad.
I still think JV will come.
Ann on 14/12 was dodgy to say the least. People have been misled into thinking + ebitda and it was not. A downright lie....
Who is gaining from all this rubbish?

People should contact Asic and lodge complaint for misleading conduct.
 
Re: NWT - Free tickets

I just received an email that might interest ASF members
(This conference has been mentioned earlier in this thread re NWT)
I'm in Queensland so cant make it ... but good luck to those who can!

FREE TICKETS TO THE SHARE CAFE 2007 MID / SMALL CAP CONFERENCE (Value $195)

There is a great event in Sofitel Wentworth Sydney on March 27. As per its title the conference will feature presentations from 16 ASX listed companies including IWL, Pelorus, Newsat, BSA, Adcorp and many more.
Tickets are normally $195 but we have secured 50 free spots for Inside Trader subscribers. There is absolutely NO CATCH. The event is almost sold out with institutionals and they would like more retail people there.

Have a look at http://www.sharecafe.com.au/conference/ for more information. But DO NOT ORDER from this page.

To get your free tickets you have to order from this special page
http://www.sharecafe.com.au/conference/rsvp_free.asp

P.S. I'm not actually a subscriber to Inside Trader ... so I'm guessing you dont have to be to take up this offer.
 
Re: NWT - Newsat innovative

ATUG award praises NewSat in innovative satellite farming solution

An article in computerworld:

http://www.computerworld.com.au/index.php/id;1548005184

Is worth reading. Very positive. Seems that this could be one of the products being launched.

I am dumfounded that NWT has not made a big deal about this. Their website makes no mention. Go figure

Seems to explain the jump today...maybe AB really is delivering on his promises made. Also explains the accumulation that has been occuring over the last few weeks.

More info and more positve news will surely be benefical to NWT and share price. Hope full once again...but for how long? :) :banghead:
 
Seems that all interest in NWT has disappeared from all the forums. Surprised then if it is one of those pump and dumps. Normally you get a few that ramp every single comment. Nothing at all. As have been said in the past this is one for the bottom draw and maybe one day it will be worth more than it is today.
 
Re: NWT - small cap conference

If any body is still interested in NWT, AB is presenting at the small cap conference on 27 March. I expect announcements forthcoming.

Keep an eye on the press also.:)
 
Hopefulone said:
Seems that all interest in NWT has disappeared from all the forums. Surprised then if it is one of those pump and dumps. Normally you get a few that ramp every single comment. Nothing at all. As have been said in the past this is one for the bottom draw and maybe one day it will be worth more than it is today.
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LOL Hopefulone you are the main ramper for this stock so I guess you are talking about yourself!!

P.S Telstra have their own Satelite ADSL broadband and it has just been confirmed in an announcement on TV. NWT is no competition for TLS. My advice is give up on this dog of a company, sell your shares, go away and study the market then get back in and do it right the next time. RULE OF THUMB - NEVER sit on your mistakes- SELL and then do it right the next time. Do you reaise just how much time and money you have lost in waiting for something that most likely will never happen???? Their are so many stocks going through the roof and all you can do is talk about this dog.WHY do you do this? Go and get into Uranium stocks and make some money for goodness sake. No use sticking with this one any longer. How long do you want to have the loser mentality for? I believe that you can do it so do yourself a favor, get out there and give it a go with companies that are going places and that have rising share prices.

Good luck hopeful, I hope that you take some of these comments on board.
 
Thanks for your words of advice, and I have been taking them. NWT is one of several shares I have and while a significant amount, is only a small amount in my portfolio. Havent got into uranium stocks though.

Do you have any suggestions?

Also, and it may sound like a ramp but I try not to make outrageous comments. I do still believe NWT has turned around and it only a matter of time before something happens. So I will hold this 'dog' as I feel something for it.

For all of you who are thinking about buying NWT dont buy until you dyor and until numbers come to fruition.

:)
 
Hopefulone said:
Thanks for your words of advice, and I have been taking them. NWT is one of several shares I have and while a significant amount, is only a small amount in my portfolio. Havent got into uranium stocks though.

Do you have any suggestions?

Also, and it may sound like a ramp but I try not to make outrageous comments. I do still believe NWT has turned around and it only a matter of time before something happens. So I will hold this 'dog' as I feel something for it.

For all of you who are thinking about buying NWT dont buy until you dyor and until numbers come to fruition.

:)
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Hi Hopeful,

Check out the MTN and BMN threads as you won't find too many uranium companies that are better than these. I'm glad that you have other stocks and not just NWT as that would have been a disaster hey. I lost about 50k on MUL when it was promising great things 2 yrs ago but have since regained my losses elsewhere thank god. Was scary times though.

All the best

Champ
 
Hey guys,

sorry to unlock this baby from deep down under... but just looking at fundamentals, .005 open today, this would have to be one of the cheapest shares out. looking at where its been over the last few years and following it (never held any) any comments on current SP?

looks like this one has completely died in the ars#....

everytime i think its time to get in its cheap enough, its slides a little further.
 
Nathan_b,

I was interested in the basis of your claim that this stock is cheap. Last financial year they made a loss of -$10m the year before they lost -$12m. For the half to December 2006 they lost a further -$4.3m. They claim to be EBITDA positive now, has the company given forecasts for 2H07 and FY08? Have you made your own? If so I would be interested to see them. Shareholders Equity of $14m with 3.16 billion shares on issue gives $0.004 of equity per share. Not exactly a screaming buy for a company that doesn't make any money....at least not yet.
 
Hey Dhukka,

thanks for your detailed reply, i appreciate the stats, i will look further before buying.
i guess i was looking at share price being .005 as being the factor.
Cheers,
nathan
 
I can't remember the last day like today, over 1.5m traded. Getting info from anyone at newsat is like extracting teeth.

Another month just like today and I'll be back in the black with this long term fling.

I want to sell and just forget about ol mul but now they are talking the talk everywhere you look there is something new being rolled out.

Just wonder how much is real and how much is hype because if it's real I can buy back the farm.

Good luck to anyone holding, holding, holding..

TG
 
I started following (without investing in) MUL in 2004 when they were just starting to talk positive and followed them up to 12 cents and now down to 1/2 cent. Throughout this rollercoaster ride, the board have continually mentioned their "long term" strategy (without actually being able to clarify what it is). In that time they have bought and sold the same entities, so obviously their long term strategy keeps changing.

They have now been saying they are cash flow positive for a while, and am therefore surprised to see another loss. Whilst the losses are getting smaller, a loss is still a loss and shouldn't be happening if you are cash flow positive.

If a company has $5.1 million in Current assets and $7.8 million in Current liabilities, isn't this a sign of insolvency?? I know they had a similar situation last year, but surely this can't be a positive sign.

Best of luck to those holding, holding, holding........

:banghead:
 
My feeling is the time for talk is over. I must admit that I was sucked in by Adrian's sales pitch. I still think Newsat could be a great company if only the directors had to answer for their mistakes.

The thing you have to admit is impressive is just how long they have been able to hold on for. What I don't find impressive is "We have too many share holders" then issuing more shares! Every time NWT starts to go forward their mates like WAM knock it down again. If only they could pay a few bills with real "profit" rather than script which it seems they photo copy in the office whenever they need coffee or milk.

I was very tempted to sell, but I had a dream it went to 3.5c !! Mind you in the dream I couldn't find my note book to log on and sell.

PS Out of all the hype anns how many have come true and made money?
Someone list some please!

Best Wishes
TG
 
PS week ending 31/8 had almost 10 times the volume of the weekly average over the last 12 months traded.

834,542,555 shares average is 89,049,391

Tells me someone knows something good or bad!

TG
 
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