NBN Rollout Scrapped

[captain black]

Today I responded to a FaceBook ad from Aussie Broadband that allowed me to check the status of the NBN at my address and would also let me know what speed I could get. When I entered in my details, it said the NBN was already available and I would be able get up to 100Mbs. It said my connection would be HFC Hybrid (I have Foxtel cable installed). I then checked at the NBN site and it too confirmed that the NBN is available at my house.

Did those of you who are on the NBN receive any communication to say that it is available and you should apply for activation?

We got a few flyers in the mail saying the NBN would soon be available.

Aussie Broadband is a great ISP, we've been with them since we had the NBN connected. Originally had FTTN but out of town now with a Fixed Wireless Service. Both have been rock solid under ABB. They have local call centres and a strong presence on Whirlpool, always quick to answer questions.

They're pretty much what Internode used to be before iiNet then TPG took them over.

 

[IFocus]

Our area was told 18 months before cut off that it was ready plus I had a Irishman turn up and dig a 30 meter trench to run the fibre in .

Whirlpool will likely have some thing on your area or a reliable source to update your connection status.

 

[bellenuit]

Thanks to all who answered above. Just one more question (I might as well use this thread as the thread title is completely redundant anyway).

I currently get the free-to-air channels through Foxtel Cable on Telstra Broadband. Some of the ISPs talk about a Fetch Set Top Box connecting to their NBN service that provides many of the same channels as Foxtel, but as far as I can see, that requires an antenna to be plugged in to get free-to-air. Is there any alternative way of getting free-to-air through the NBN without an antenna or without Foxtel? I don't think an inside antenna would work as I am completely hidden from the transmitting masts by a large block of flats next to me. I could put up an outside antenna as a last resort, but that seems so last century, but it does have the advantage of providing at least the free-to-air channels if the NBN goes down. I do get the Freeviw stuff on my iPad at the moment, but I miss out on live AFL as Freeview or the stand-alone apps for each channel do not show live AFL.

 

[sptrawler]

The white elephant is turning grey.lol
The most expensive taxpayer funded scam, in living history.

 

[Humid]

The white elephant is turning grey.lol
The most expensive taxpayer funded scam, in living history.

It’s probably a bit over the top for a bloke who has retired and sits on a forum all day typing with one finger.

 

[MarketMatters]

Interesting. Optus threatened with various letters 12 months ago with the final cut off date in April '18. We accepted the verdict to convert around this time. Roll into 2019 and no mention of NBN installation still. Happy with current arrangements (no down time on cable) so not making any noise at this stage !! We are on HFC - in which I last heard the rollout has been suspended in Sydney ....extinguishing numerous install fires?

Concerning FetchTV. I believe it is reliant on an aerial connection which is how we receive the feed. That's not to say you couldn't run a direct internet feed through it but my hardware (3 year old box) didn't allow for that. As compared to Foxtel it is more a poor cousin than a replacement though that depends on what you're after really! Foxtel is struggling and will try to fight to hold on to its customer base. Sky Business/Your Money has gone as are some sport channels so they are becoming quite lean!!

 

[bellenuit]

I decided to do some speed checks this evening so I can make a comparison to what I get after I migrate to the NBN. I currently am on BigPond Broadband on cable. On the four occasions I did measurement, using servers in Adelaide, Sydney and Bali (I am in Perth), my down load speed was about 110Mbps.

This is more than the top speeds being offered by the ISPs I checked. Even Aussie Broadband's 100Mbps offering says to expect only a max of 86Mbps typical evening speeds.

If this is typical over the next week, then I see no reason to migrate (until forced to).

 

[peter2]

I feel the same and annoyed that I have to migrate to a slower and less reliable service. (In Sydney)

Edit: Oh no, is this in General Chat, damn, sucked in again.

 

[bellenuit]

I feel the same and annoyed that I have to migrate to a slower and less reliable service.

How long were you given between the service being available and being forced to upgrade? And was the forcing just the removal of the land line (in other words, if you drop the land line, do you get longer)?

Apart from the faster speed, one reason to delay the upgrade would be to see what alternative technologies become available. Not only to the NBN, but also the components that you need to get the full service you want (Fetch TV, routers etc.).

 

[peter2]

NBN went "live" in my Syd suburb a few months ago. Since then TLS upgraded my speed to 100mbps and asked me to not convert and for at least six months due to them being very busy. I believe I've got 18 months before I have to change. Meanwhile I'm hoping their 5G network slowly creeps outward from the CBD.

 

[IFocus]

I decided to do some speed checks this evening so I can make a comparison to what I get after I migrate to the NBN. I currently am on BigPond Broadband on cable. On the four occasions I did measurement, using servers in Adelaide, Sydney and Bali (I am in Perth), my down load speed was about 110Mbps.

This is more than the top speeds being offered by the ISPs I checked. Even Aussie Broadband's 100Mbps offering says to expect only a max of 86Mbps typical evening speeds.

If this is typical over the next week, then I see no reason to migrate (until forced to).

Wow wasn't aware you could get that speed without paying a Moza, you wont beat that speed on NBN 80 to 90Mbps is the norm and less if the exchange is needing CVC upgrade.

Being in the back blocks out beyond the black stump (45 mins south of Perth) I went from 1.5Mbps to 25Mbps thinking I was killing it

 

[sptrawler]

Well it will be interesting in the near future, the NBN will have its work cut out, trying to hold wireless at bay.
Top speeds

• NBN - 100 megabits per second (top tier available to buy)
• 5G - 1,450 megabits per second (US test of peak speed)
• 6G - 8,000,000 megabits per second (predicted)

https://www.abc.net.au/news/2019-08-22/huawei-reportedly-entering-into-6g-research/11427056
From the article:
5G
Tests with US mobile provider Verizon have recorded peak download speeds of 1.45 gigabits per second(more than 14 times the top speed of Australia's NBN).
6G
To get your head around what 6G may deliver, it's going to be a matter of scale.

Dr Shirvanimoghaddam said 6G networks had the potential to give users speeds of 1 terabyte per second, or 8,000 gigabits per second.

To put this in perspective, streaming Netflix in its highest quality for an hour is worth 56 gigabits of data, so in 6G-terms, you'd be able to download just over 142 hours of Netflix's top-quality video every second.

Technology certainly moves along.

 

[bellenuit]

Top speeds

• NBN - 100 megabits per second (top tier available to buy)

I get 120Mbps on my current BigPond Cable connection so I see no reason to upgrade to the NBN. Pentanet are offering a 120Mbps wireless connection, but requires line of sight to their transmitters.

 

[sptrawler]

Interesting stats with regard home technology.
https://www.macrobusiness.com.au/2019/09/more-australians-have-netflix-than-a-home-telephone/

I wonder how long it will be before we see, "Live and not free" in the top corner of the T.V screen.
I suppose they will have to wait. untill the NBN rollout is finished.

 

[SirRumpole]

5G may make 4G faster some say.


https://www.abc.net.au/news/2019-10...ter-expert-says-mobile-phone-network/11586082

 

[sptrawler]

5G may make 4G faster some say.


https://www.abc.net.au/news/2019-10...ter-expert-says-mobile-phone-network/11586082

I hate to say "I told you so Rumpy", but how many times did I say it was a disgrace that the tax payer should foot the bill, to replace infrastructure we already had, so that telecommunication companies can charge us more to use it.

https://www.smh.com.au/business/com...n-built-telstra-chairman-20191015-p530pa.html

From the article:
Telstra chairman John Mullen has claimed all Australians would have access to high-speed internet at a "fraction of the cost" if the government had not proceeded with the $50 billion National Broadband Network project.
"The creation of the NBN 10 years ago has had a seminal effect on our industry and Australia," Mr Mullen said.

"It is always easier to comment with the benefit of hindsight, but it is my view that over the last 10 years private sector competition between strong players such as Telstra, Optus, TPG and others was always going to build 100 Mbps broadband access and speed to the majority of the population of Australia, in an ongoing competitive landscape and at no cost whatsoever to the taxpayer," he said .

Mr Mullen said the government could then have decided how much in subsidy they could provide to the industry to extend this coverage to regional and rural areas where the private sector economics didn't stack up.

"This would have been at a fraction of the cost of today's NBN," he said .

Like we said at the time, just a brain fart and waste of taxpayers money. Even now the mind blowing stupidity of starting in regional areas first, is impossible to understand, only now are high density City areas of Perth getting done.
Again, unfortunately it just supports those who say the Government should stay out of providing services.

 

[Humid]

Like generating and supplying electricity

 

[sptrawler]

Like generating and supplying electricity

Absolutely, they should either own it, or privatise and regulate it.
Trying to have a foot in each camp ends in a disaster, mainly because the Government owned plant becomes generator of last resort, so they cop the rough end of the stick and the privates get the cream.
The privates run all the time and the Government units have to make room for them, when someone has to back off, it becomes the Government ones just the way it is.

 

[Smurf1976]

Like we said at the time, just a brain fart and waste of taxpayers money. Even now the mind blowing stupidity of starting in regional areas first, is impossible to understand, only now are high density City areas of Perth getting done.

There was some sense in parts of Tasmania where the power industry had already effectively built part of what's now the NBN before the federal government came up with the idea.

There might (?) be places in other states where that or something similar also applies? Don't know really.

Here in SA I've still got a copper wire strung (overhead) to the house.

One thing though, looking at the amount of data 6G can transmit the whole thing does seem a bit like putting a V12 engine in a lawn mower or supplying a few megawatts of power to every home. For the purpose of ???

 

[chiff]

There was some sense in parts of Tasmania where the power industry had already effectively built part of what's now the NBN before the federal government came up with the idea.

There might (?) be places in other states where that or something similar also applies? Don't know really.

Here in SA I've still got a copper wire strung (overhead) to the house.

One thing though, looking at the amount of data 6G can transmit the whole thing does seem a bit like putting a V12 engine in a lawn mower or supplying a few megawatts of power to every home. For the purpose of ???

At least ten years I used the internet at the Mildura library.I was amazed by the speed-almost instant.I found that Mildura, inner Ballarat and Geelong had been wired by a firm called Neighbourhood Cable-well before the NBN.My adsl was hopeless,and when NBN came to our town I went to wifi.Nbn with cable not to the house was unacceptable.