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I can't imagine this being done at scale with only 6% of FTTN services between 12 and 25mbps during the coexistence period. Other alternatives also exist where there's overlap with fixed wireless or even the sat service which is presently 20% utilised.

Probably more a future upgrade path beyond the current rollout.
 
I can't imagine this being done at scale with only 6% of FTTN services between 12 and 25mbps during the coexistence period. Other alternatives also exist where there's overlap with fixed wireless or even the sat service which is presently 20% utilised.

Probably more a future upgrade path beyond the current rollout.


Supposedly only those areas with obvious fail status.
 
The tech I was talking to said, FTTC requires a 12v supply from the house, he thinks it will be doubtful it will be taken up.
If it does require a 12v supply and the copper pair can't be used, they may as well run fibre to the house.IMO
There was a potential issue earlier in the year regarding premises being electricity suppliers.

https://www.itnews.com.au/news/nbn-co-reveals-reverse-power-draw-for-fttdp-451943

The choice for those getting FTTC looks relatively simple for those reluctant about the power requirements.
 
http://thenewdaily.com.au/life/tech/2017/11/13/nbn-mike-quigley-ambitious-fibre/

Former NBN boss Mike Quigley has slammed the Coalition’s copper-based network as a “colossal mistake” after a senior German executive gave a sponsored speech backing the technology.

Deutsche Telekom chief technology officer Bruno Jacobfeuerborn, in Sydney for a conference partly funded by NBN Co, said his company initially thought the Australian Labor Party’s plan to rollout full fibre-to-the-premises (FTTP) was a “great idea” but soon switched to a Coalition-style multi-technology mix because full FTTP was “very ambitious” and inefficient.

Mr Quigley, NBN Co’s first CEO from 2009 to 2013, retorted by saying Germany’s copper-based network was very different to Australia’s.

“The world’s going fibre,” he told The New Daily....................
 
On a walk today, I got to see some of the activity associated with the FTTN rollout. There was a recently installed micronode case on one street.

Of interest on another street, a rock breaker was jackhammering a trench on the street verge. I was advised by an onsite worker this is to lay fibre in a new duct to service the nodes. The Telstra duct was unsuitable for this section due to the proximity of other existing services. The days and weeks ahead may show how widespread the instillation of new duct is in the area more broadly.
 
Oh I forgot to tell everyone...my NBN has gone down after only two weeks and they can't find the reason why.

And although I pay for wireless backup the accounts dept can't figure out how to ring tech dept and get it up and running.

So I'm hot spotting off my mobile
 
NBN technician works to be subbied Telstra in new year. That can't be good for all those 3 day cert 2 people out there who were led to believe they had work for several years.
 
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Today's announced delay with the HFC rollout will have a significant impact on the rollout target to June 30 2018.

https://www.nbnco.com.au/corporate-...ia-releases/improved-customer-experience.html

Reduced from 9.1m RFS to 8.7m in the 2018 corporate plan (200k of which was due to a reduction in premises to be passed), I anticipate that figure will be revised down to around 8.0m.

This is a major setback on the scale of those that plagued Labor's FTTP rollout timeframe. The June 30 2019 target of 11.2m (97%) will I expect also be revised down. 11.6m (100%) by June 30 2020 may still be achievable given the rollout was forecast to be only 400k short of completion at June 30 2019.

There were 5.7m premises passed at June 30 2017 compared to the 2016 corporate plan target of 5.4m to June 30 2017.
 
From NBN's statement above,
To help ensure the best possible experience for its customers (the internet service providers) and their end users, NBN Co will temporarily pause all new orders over its HFC access network. This pause will be in effect until incremental field work is undertaken to raise the quality of service for end users.

There will be a delay of the current rollout timing of new HFC areas while the company undertakes this work in both the existing footprint and areas not previously declared ready for service. The company confirmed, even with these changes, it remains on target to connect eight million active end users and deliver a fully connected continent by the year 2020.
The above suggests the pause is in orders to connect rather than the physical rollout of HFC itself. 800k were RFS on the HFC network at ay June 30 2017 and this is forecast to rise to 1.9m by June 30 2018. At 80k per month, one would expect RFS will reach ~1.2m when the pause on new orders takes effect in December.

With 7-months to June 30 2018, one would imagine construction work is already under way or contracted on the vast majority of the remaining 700k. A flow-on to new construction would probably materialise in 2018/19 but is difficult at the present time to quantify.
 
https://www.cnet.com/au/news/nbn-halts-hfc-rollout-delaying-service-by-6-to-9-months/

NBN halts all new HFC connections, warns of 9-month delays
Roughly 2.5 million Australians waiting to get the NBN over HFC now have even longer to wait as NBN addresses drop-out issues.

27 NOVEMBER 2017 1:23 PM AEDT

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Don't expect an NBN connection anytime soon if you're in an HFC area.

NBN Co
If you're one of the roughly 2.5 million Australians still yet to connect to the NBN via HFC, then we have bad news: Your service is going to be delayed another six to nine months.

NBN has confirmed it is "pausing" further orders of NBN service over HFC technology, effective immediately. The company plans to get through the current backlog of orders and will still take orders for service from ISPs over the next two weeks, but customers waiting for service after that will have their access to the national broadband network delayed.

In a press briefing on Monday, NBN CEO Bill Morrow said the steps were being taken to ensure a strong "customer experience."

Hybrid Fibre Coaxial is the same cable technology used to bring Foxtel to houses around Australia, and is just one of the access technologies used to deliver the NBN under the federal government's multi-technology mix (alongside fibre to the premises, satellite for remote communities and the much-debated fibre to the node).

NBN took ownership of Australia's legacy HFC networks from Telstra and Optus in 2014. But in 2016 NBN ditched Optus' network, thanks to "up-to-date learnings" about how difficult it was to get premises onto the network using that technology.

Now, HFC is causing even more grief.

"The reality is this is someone else's network," Morrow said on Monday, adding that the company doesn't believe the move to pull HFC connections was a "stuff up."

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NBN says roughly 3 million Australians will eventually be brought onto the national broadband network via HFC technology. Currently, 1.2 million of those premises are ready for service and, of those, "nearly 1 million" are ready to connect. But within that number, only 370,000 premises are connected and running on HFC, leaving millions of Australians with no set details on when they'll be able to connect.

Morrow said the problems around HFC were not speed related, adding that the technology is "capable of delivering gigabit speeds." Rather, a "minority" of customers were experiencing drop-outs due to the frequency band NBN uses on the HFC network, but these issues were only known when customers were connected to the network.

"We are not going to sacrifice customer experience just for the pace of the rollout," Morrow said, when explaining the decision to halt HFC activations.

The move does not effect customers currently up and running on the HFC network, though Morrow advised those Australians already on HFC to get in touch with their Internet Service Provider if they've experienced issues.

But it's bad news for the roughly 2.5 million Australians who have been waiting for the NBN to come to their area, or for those who are classified as "ready to connect" but who haven't put in an order. NBN says these premises will continue to be able to access (non-NBN) ADSL while they wait.

NBN says the delay will taper down from the current additional expected wait time of six to nine months. Morrow was also at pains to reiterate that the problem would not cause NBN to miss its target of completing the network by 2020.

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What to do when those who are supposed to do the NBN connection just never turn up? They say they will, then they don't. Multiple times over several weeks.

Suggestions?
 
What to do when those who are supposed to do the NBN connection just never turn up? They say they will, then they don't. Multiple times over several weeks.

Suggestions?

This happened to a friend of mine, luckily he broke his leg and was stuck at home for several weeks, they ended up getting there to do the job.

It is a bit of a radical suggestion, but it was successful. lol
 
Break a leg -- The expression reflects a theatrical superstition in which wishing a person "good luck" is considered bad luck.

Don't do it Gringo. There isn't anything you can do but focus on something else. Then they will turn up.
 
What to do when those who are supposed to do the NBN connection just never turn up? They say they will, then they don't. Multiple times over several weeks.

Suggestions?

What really happens is the sub contractor sees the job and if there isn't enough money in it to make a profit he declines the work order.

So if you or you property appear to be too difficult you have a long time at the end of a queue.

Suggestions:

1) ask for a business install ...you get preferential treatment, better modems, etc
2) if your last name sounds Indian, Jewish, Dutch or Straights Chinese use a different Welsh one like Jones, Edwards or Smith
3) if you put your occupation down as a Doctor, Lawyer or Accountant you did a bad thing too. Subbies hate these people because they traditionally refuse to pay the bill in other trades industries (see also 2) above).
 
Roughly 2.5 million Australians waiting to get the NBN over HFC now have even longer to wait as NBN addresses drop-out issues.
To fix up the connection issues of those already uhh connected. Everyone is in a frantic rush to get things done nowadays. Bet there are some seriously botched NBN connections.
 
What really happens is the sub contractor sees the job and if there isn't enough money in it to make a profit he declines the work order.

So if you or you property appear to be too difficult you have a long time at the end of a queue.

Suggestions:

1) ask for a business install ...you get preferential treatment, better modems, etc
2) if your last name sounds Indian, Jewish, Dutch or Straights Chinese use a different Welsh one like Jones, Edwards or Smith
3) if you put your occupation down as a Doctor, Lawyer or Accountant you did a bad thing too. Subbies hate these people because they traditionally refuse to pay the bill in other trades industries (see also 2) above).

Thanks. Looks like mobile broadband then. Maybe the ISP will offer a deal on this.
 
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