For your amusement Myths, I'll just say nothing is bullet proof when ultimately confronted with the reality of a Labor disaster.
We could go back to what happened to Labor's first policy attempt attempt at this from government. We could then look at their second policy in practice and perhaps give them some credit for trying. It's the current government though that has to clean up this mess.
Under current contracts NBN Co don't gain effective customer access to the copper and HFC networks for free.
http://www.nbnco.com.au/assets/medi...nd-optus-sign-binding-agreement-23-jun-11.pdf
It's within that framework I would suggest that negotiations will take place.
As for information regarding FTTN and HFC costs, it's there from page 85 although some of the actual numbers are redacted.
The Coalition's pre-election policy announcement was always a political document. It had to be because what we were seeing on rollout projections and cost of the NBN while Labor was in office was misleading at best and in the end was hidden when the lie could no longer be sustained.Sorry, but it is impossible to blame Labor for the cost blowout of rolling out FTTN. The coalition knew how much had been injected into NBN Co up to now, and they knew that they would continue FTTP until 2015ish.
There is nothing the ALP have done to date which makes FTTN any more expensive than Turnbull knew it would be months ago. We all said they were dreaming with regards to their cost and timetable, and it turns out we were right.
The Coalition's pre-election policy announcement was always a political document
Like the ever diminishing rollout schedule under Labor's administration ?While everything a politician says publicly can in some way be considered political...statements of fact like the 25 Mbps minimum by the end of the first term etc are also promises to be kept.
Like the ever diminishing rollout schedule under Labor's administration ?
One cannot judge the current government NBN policy statement from opposition in isolation. It needs to be considered through the prism of achievement from the time of the previous government vs the forecasts.
The NBN was never properly costed and lacked proper governance from it's inception.
A back of envelope birth via Rudd and Conroy on a government flight, does not make for a sustainable venture.
It has been plagued since it's inception as a result.
Any outcome which is costed and has proper governace would be satisfactory.
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Like the ever diminishing rollout schedule under Labor's administration ?
One cannot judge the current government NBN policy statement from opposition in isolation. It needs to be considered through the prism of achievement from the time of the previous government vs the forecasts.
Like the ever diminishing rollout schedule under Labor's administration ?
One cannot judge the current government NBN policy statement from opposition in isolation. It needs to be considered through the prism of achievement from the time of the previous government vs the forecasts.
What I'm saying is that politics is a game of relativities.So if I may translate that from political speak into normal English. You're actually saying:
"It's perfectly OK for the Coalition to fail on their promises on NBN progress (+2yrs), coverage (-30%) and cost (+33%), because the ALP 'failed' as well".
My question then, is how far back can we take that attitude?
The Howard Government had 13-odd failed attempts at broadband policy over 11 years in office. Leaving Labor to "clean up the mess" they were left in the form of a hostile, powerful vertical monopoly in Telstra, and a broadband network near the bottom of the OECD. Does that not excuse the ALP from any and all failures on their NBN? Or does your excuse theory only work one-way?
What I'm saying is that politics is a game of relativities.
This government's record is that it has scaled back its commitment from before the election while the previous government has delivered very little from 6-years in office and through their rigid ideology, wasted vast sums of taxpayer money.
And in the meantime, we'll pretend the rollout delays and cost blowouts have never happened.Let's see which technology history judges to be the "wasted investment" in 20 years time.
The NBN was never properly costed and lacked proper governance from it's inception.
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Any outcome which is costed and has proper governace would be satisfactory.
gg
Wasted? What money spent on the NBN so far has been wasted?
SO Labor's National Broadband Network rollout would have cost taxpayers $73 billion -- about the value of 73 base hospitals. Not $4.7bn with completion this year -- the fantasy floated by Kevin Rudd in 2007. Not the $37bn peddled by former communications minister Stephen Conroy on the many occasions he castigated this newspaper for arguing for a cost-benefit analysis because we believed the project would cost far more than his spin-meisters claimed. And not the $44bn predicted by the NBN Co. For $73bn, it would have been completed three years late, by 2024. And to meet Labor's targeted rate of return, internet bills would have had to rise by 80 per cent.
Such breathtaking incompetence and unconscionable waste dwarfs the school halls ($16bn), pink batts ($2.45bn) and set-top boxes ($300 million) debacles combined -- almost four times over. It places the Rudd and Gillard governments in a pantheon of their own -- far beyond the Whitlam government -- for extravagance and old-fashioned socialism.
.Already, as Mr Turnbull said, the inefficient rollout has cost taxpayers $20bn. Shamefully, Labor even insisted fibre-optic cables had to be dug through walls into every flat and bedsit in multi-dwelling units. Running the cable into the basement and connecting it to existing copper wiring would have saved vast amounts of time, money and disruption
...Doesn't sound like a good start for a "properly costed, properly governed" outcome to me.
Myths, you are just an old-fashioned socialist.
Myths, you will clearly never be happy with anything a coalition government does.
And in the meantime, we'll pretend the rollout delays and cost blowouts have never happened.
Myths, you are just an old-fashioned socialist.
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http://www.theaustralian.com.au/opi...r-to-be-repeated/story-e6frg71x-1226783603660
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