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My trading summary last financial year - makes for an ugly read

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Like most, every year I like to analyse my trading data for the year. Figured I would post my review here to keep me honest.

This year I changed things around a little as I moved my review period to align with my financial year to makes things easier for tax. So effectively this review covers 1.5 years.

It wasn't a good 1.5 years for me. I'm in the midst of my largest drawdown to date. Luckily the drawdown is soaking up prior year profits, so I still have enough trading capital to keep going. Nevertheless, something needs to change.

Briefly, my trading strategy comprises 3 set-ups which I trade on individual stocks:

1. Breakout retests - I have found these to be a reliable pattern. Look for the breakout from a good basing pattern and then wait for a meander back to support on low volume (if it happens) before entering a position.
2. Continuation patterns - straight from Curtis Arnold's PPS strategy. Has served me well in the past but finding it a wash cycle in these market conditions. I'm avoiding these patterns until the market established a clear trend again.
3. Divergence patterns - Need's confluence between the indices and individual stock to work. I typically only trade these patterns when the market is severely oversold or overbought.

FY 2011 review

1. Profit and loss summary

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An ugly year and a half all round for me. Gave up a prior year profits and had a large draw down. There are three obvious ways to increase my account balance:
1) Increase win rate
2) Increase average win amount
3) Decrease average loss amount

I’m fairly comfortable with riding my winners once they get going so my focus should be my average win rate and average loss amount. It’s hard to properly analyze my average loss as part way through the year I reduced my risk from a fixed risk per trade of $1000 to $500. Nevertheless, $792 average loss is too high.

As will be shown below, I’m taken out of a lot of trades far too early. My stops were too tight this year and I didn’t adapt for the increased market noise to the downside. If I become more conservative with my stop placement this should increase my win rate. However this will at the same time reduce my average win amount. Therefore, in order to make up for a reduced average gain, I also need to reduce my average loss. Hopefully by having a wider stop this will reduce the amount of times I am stopped out in the first few days. Nevertheless, I will need to focus on bumping my stop up very quickly at obvious signs of failure to keep the average loss amount down.

2. Profit & loss timeline

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My P&L followed the market too much. I took too many trades in the period of May to August 2011 and didn’t get defensive quickly enough.

Mining tax announcement led to an outlier loss, but I also had an outlier gain in February 2011 so I shouldn’t focus too much on this.

At least things have steadied since around September last year. Capital preservation is number one focus again. I may need to add a filter of some kind – whether it be a market filter or a filter where if I have X losses in a row I reduce position size.

3. P&L scatter chart

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The above chart confirms that things have steadied since September 2011. Also it is apparent that trade frequency has also decreased. One of my takeaways here is that until I find my edge again, be selective and on the conservative side when talking trades.

I also need to get that average loss down. Only very few trades should slip past my stop.

4. Days in trade summary

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It’s clear from above that my sweet spot is when a trade lasts 10 days or more. That gives time for a trend to develop.

I’m kind of conflicted with my takeaway here. One thought is that my initial stop placement is too tight. Specially when considering my average win amount isn’t that high, so whether a tight stop increases my account balance is questionable. The other thought is that at least my tight stops have kept the majority of the losses small. Nevertheless, something is not working so a wider stop is necessary. My positions are obliviously getting taken out by noise in their initial stages too often.

This year I'm going to test/monitor whether my stopped out positions ended up being profitable. I'm going to work out the average day held of my profitable positions. I will then record the price of positions that were stopped out early (i.e <5 days) at whatever that average day figure is.

5. Long/short mix

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Pretty clear from above that I should stick to long only. The only short positions I would consider is a divergence set-up but to be a reliable signal it would also require the XAO and individual stock itself to also show a rejection of recent highs.

6. Focus for this year

1. Conservative stop placement. Looks for ways to avoid the noise. Explore using the ATR to help place stops.
2. Conservative trade management. Strictly adhere to my set-up criteria and don't get caught up in market hype.
3. Be quick to cut a loss when there is an obvious sign of failure. My deifntion of obvious failure requires volume to be above the 15 day simple moving average and price action to be either a down-trending day or a clear rejection of higher prices.
4. Focus on long-only. Be happy to spend time on the sidelines and use this time to analyse my results etc.
5. Investigate the following-
a) Index filter
b) Monitoring the price of positions stopped out early relative to my average hold time for profitable positions.
 
Very detailed post Sammy. I haven't read through it in complete detail yet but im sure you will get some useful comments
 
That was a good read - thanks Sammy.

How do you monitor the above information? Do you put each of your trades in an Excel template?

Steve
 
Probably better just not trading the system when its not working rather than curve fitting to the last period and risk being in a perpetual tail chasing exercise.

That is you need some sort of filter or maybe a crystal ball?
 
Have you done stats for p/l on the patterns themselves? eg avg win/loss on breakouts etc

Paper traded back in 2007. My system is very discretionary so hard to actually write a code to test it.

I trusted that Curtis Arnold's strategy had been robustly tested. I also used to follow the Chartist's recommendations from which I have leveraged a bit. At the end of the day I have to assume robustness based on my long term average which is below:

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Probably better just not trading the system when its not working rather than curve fitting to the last period and risk being in a perpetual tail chasing exercise.

That is you need some sort of filter or maybe a crystal ball?

I see where you're going. I hope that this exercise is more about creating a robust system as opposed to curve fitting. Hopefully as my time in the market increases I will be better able to identify certain market conditions and know how to respond accordingly.

From what I gather you trade discretionary, albeit very short term. Do you apply any filters in your trading?
 
From what I gather you trade discretionary, albeit very short term. Do you apply any filters in your trading?

Yeah a holiday :p: But other than that no. I just keep on hitting away but I do play lots of different games, from scalping in the seconds to hanging on to trades for as long as I can.
 
Sammy

This is what I see.
Death by a thousand cuts.
Your win rate is very low for such a short trade duration.
I would cut my position sizing and also cut my risk by moving to B/E as
quick as I can. 70 B/E Losses (Brokerage) is better than your $650 ish/trade.

This drawdown is what id expect for a long method in this market.
The thing that bothers me is the short losses are more! (/ trade).

So just keep plugging away.
Dont be afraid to take B/E stops even if your doing far more trades.
Work on getting thats win rate up.
I suspect your trading a method with a long trend bent.

Fine in a bull market and will win well.
Bad in a swinging market with a bearish trend.

i know i harp on about it but changing to FTSE index futs helped all things Ive mentioned above.
 
Yeah a holiday :p: But other than that no. I just keep on hitting away but I do play lots of different games, from scalping in the seconds to hanging on to trades for as long as I can.

This is why I'm not a huge fan of sitting out. I would like to be able to revert to different styles depending on the nature of the market. Only time can teach me that.
 
Sammy

I suspect your trading a method with a long trend bent.

Fine in a bull market and will win well.
Bad in a swinging market with a bearish trend.

i know i harp on about it but changing to FTSE index futs helped all things Ive mentioned above.

Spot on. Worked well in a bull market and kept things ticking over.

Agree about getting more trades to breakeven. Historically my average has been a bit higher. This year it just seems most patterns went against me from the very start.

Sorry if you have mentioned this before but how would FTSE index futures help? I imagine it would mean more screen time.
 
Hi Sammy, thanks for sharing your trading. It's has not been a market for trend followers or long dominant systems. It's a market more suited for quick hit profits - i.e. trade the noise. We know that from hindsight.

I agree that you need a few more systems / setups that are suitable for this market, rather than twigging a system that is perhaps designed for trending markets. Having non-correlated systems will improve your return and reduce the volatility of your equity curve. It is of paramount to all full time traders (not sure if you are such).

And some bold bits for you to have a think.

Paper traded back in 2007. My system is very discretionary so hard to actually write a code to test it.

I trusted that Curtis Arnold's strategy had been robustly tested. I also used to follow the Chartist's recommendations from which I have leveraged a bit. At the end of the day I have to assume robustness based on my long term average which is below:

MRC,
I read PPS in 1994, spend over 100 hours validating it and started trading it in 1995. In 1998 I created Reefcap which managed $12 mill based on what I learnt from that book. In 2000 I started with stocks and continue to do so today. In fact since turning off my trend following models in November it constitutes 90% of my trading.

As RichKid and TH have stated, you need to read it and then make it your own. There are no short cuts. I have made numerous changes but the concepts remain the same. Its like a golf coach. He can teach the about swing planes, weight transfer and alignment but then you need to do the work on the range.

Take a look at the Pacific Brands (PBG) chart which was a short yesterday - straight out of that book.
 
Spot on. Worked well in a bull market and kept things ticking over.

Agree about getting more trades to breakeven. Historically my average has been a bit higher. This year it just seems most patterns went against me from the very start.

Sorry if you have mentioned this before but how would FTSE index futures help? I imagine it would mean more screen time.

Short term trading will involve more screen time

I generally spend a couple of hrs between 5.30 to 7.30
That's enough for me.

Benefits

Trade long and short.
Stacks of liquidity
Reads well technically.

Doesn't take up a lifetime..
 
Firstly Sammy, congratulations for having the gumption to put up something that is not working, and providing details. A few things seem obvious to me, please dont take the following as criticism, just suggestions.

Paper traded back in 2007

In 2007 up to November had been a bull market with a 17% rise overall. Your system is therefore geared to a bull market. To me it should also be tested in a bear market to make sure it doesn't get you into trouble in those conditions. Some type of filter to determine the difference is always warranted, this could be used in the sector your potential trades are in, rather than the market as a whole.

This year I'm going to test/monitor whether my stopped out positions ended up being profitable. I'm going to work out the average day held of my profitable positions. I will then record the price of positions that were stopped out early (i.e <5 days) at whatever that average day figure is.

You have 99 actual trades from the last 18 months to do this with. 99 trades is enough data to go back through and check precisely whether stops were too close, too far away, or the premise of the actual trade was just wrong statistically. It also gives you enough data to check if the winning trades had certain characteristics different from the losing trades, identifiable from before the trade was placed, ie the price action, volume, announcements in the prior week, month, year etc.

One of my takeaways here is that until I find my edge again, be selective and on the conservative side when talking trades.

You either have an edge that you are confident of, or you don't. Judging by the results of the last 18 months IMNSHO, you clearly do not have an edge. Why throw money at something that is not working? Why not earn interest on your money while testing what works in the existing market until you do have confidence.

brty
 
Sammy, have you considered using an index filter?

It was one of things I listed which I wanted to investigate.

My current thinking is that a filter will be a hindrance to a discretionary system. The beauty of trading discretionary is that you can get in on early moves without having to wait for a system to 'turn on'.

Still something I will test in my spare time.
 
Sammy - good on you for posting your results and seeking suggestions.

IMO your results will be similar to most, but very few people will accept the responsibility and try to improve their performance. I describe myself as a discretionary trader but over the years have evolved a set of rules to keep me trading in a consistent way. You may need to become more of a rule based discretionary trader. Even this may not be enough as discretionary traders are easily influenced by their own emotions and respond to challenging markets in an inconsistent manner. Most of my profits have been made trading break-outs (works well in bull markets). As the ASX has traveled sideways and down for the past two years break-out opportunities have decreased and many break-outs have reversed without going very far at all. It's has been frustrating and my response has been to include other trading strategies (eg. reversals).

My recent review showed me that I drifted from my core break-out strategy as I tried trading more reversals. My reversal trades did not make much money over the period but I missed many great break-out opportunities (SXY, AGI, BRU ) because I was focusing on something else. IMO discretionary traders are more susceptible to style drift if you try to do too much. My suggestion to you is to identify your best setup and make it your core strategy with top priority. There will be periods when the market will not suit your core strategy. Recognise them and accept it, but still put in the effort as we never know when the good times (for our core strategy) will return.

To the right of my trading records I keep notes on my trading performance for each trade. I review my actions and the chart many weeks after each trade. I record basic scores (0 or 1, sometimes 0.5) on all my trading actions.
Setup: Was the setup perfect? (according to my criteria)
Entry: Did I enter at the correct time? Did I delay?
Position Size: Did I buy the correct number of shares for the risk level?
Reduce Risk: Did I reduce the risk in the trade when there was an opportunity?
Pyramid: Did I add on a subsequent opportunity?
Stop Loss: Did I exit when my SL was triggered?
Trailing Stop/ Profit target Exit: Did I exit when my TS or profit target was triggered?

I end up with a % score and my goal is to average > 90%. Every mistake hurts my performance and too many mistakes makes me a losing trader. Last year I over traded, took too many less than perfect setups and did not sell at my initial SL too many times.

The review showed me what I did wrong and what I need to improve on. Just as importantly, the review showed me which setups make me the most money and when to implement them.

ps: Added after I read your last post Sammy. My most profitable edge is trading break-outs in a bear market. I use a market filter to control my portfolio heat not whether I trade or not.
 
You have 99 actual trades from the last 18 months to do this with. 99 trades is enough data to go back through and check precisely whether stops were too close, too far away, or the premise of the actual trade was just wrong statistically. It also gives you enough data to check if the winning trades had certain characteristics different from the losing trades, identifiable from before the trade was placed, ie the price action, volume, announcements in the prior week, month, year etc.

Thanks for your comments. I appreciate the honesty, hence why I posted my results.

I don't know what to say to above. It is very obvious in hindsight that this a sensible thing to do. Guess I had a brain fade.

Regarding my whether my system has an edge. I'm still confident it does as it is still in a net profit position since I have started trading. And if you look at my results, it was essentially a 3 month period prior to September 2011 which did the destruction. I think I know what happened in that time as well. I was coming off a relatively good year prior and wanted to increase trade frequency and portfolio heat. I then had a few big losses and the rest is history. A few amateur decisions by me is not helping anything. Nevertheless, you could be right. Next years review will answer that.

Thanks again.
 
It was one of things I listed which I wanted to investigate.

My current thinking is that a filter will be a hindrance to a discretionary system. The beauty of trading discretionary is that you can get in on early moves without having to wait for a system to 'turn on'.

Still something I will test in my spare time.

I kinda agree. Indexes are lagging. Which leaves you with the need to tighten up both your entry conditions (this may include scraping them in this market) and your management once in.
 
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