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Tink said:
Did they play for no points?

I dont remember that.
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Because it all happened out of season

http://www.afana.com/netpaper/nov23-06907.html

Edit: It is also a bit different punishing a team who has put together a very strong outfit by cheating the cap and who made the last four GF's and finding out midway through a season compared to punishing a team that finished last with only 3 wins and finding out after the season is finished.

Carlton cheated and were still no good, lol.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/2002_AFL_season#Ladder
 
nomore4s said:
Because Carlton didn't win anything, but they paid the price - only now are they again getting a competitive team together.

Also Carlton's breach was nowhere near the extent of the Storm's rorting.
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There was systematic rorting in the 80s by a number of clubs until the AFL got it's act togther. I would expect a Hawks fan still laughs at Platten's screwing Carlton out of a new car ;)

Carlton won a flag in 95 which is widely regarded as tainted. Essendon were proven to be over the cap in 93 when they won the flag.
 
Mofra said:
There was systematic rorting in the 80s by a number of clubs until the AFL got it's act togther. I would expect a Hawks fan still laughs at Platten's screwing Carlton out of a new car ;)

Carlton won a flag in 95 which is widely regarded as tainted. Essendon were proven to be over the cap in 93 when they won the flag.
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No argument there from me.

But if Geelong were found to be cheating the cap this year during this season to the same extent as the Storm I would be willing to bet a lot of money the penalties handed down would be along the same lines as the ones handed to the Storm.
 
moXJO said:
I'm not a storms supporter:p:
What happens if they drop players and go under the cap? It seems a bit stupid to have a team play for no points.
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The games they've won this season are tainted. So they could start from zero from today, if they agreed to sideline some players for the season.

But who do you sideline?
These are players with bills, mortgages, families and contracts.
You can't just fire them from their jobs when it mostly wasnt their fault.
You have to allow them to earn a living, which is what this punishment does.

The other argument is if they all agree to a pay cut, let them play for points.
This is still a flawed argument because the team was put together under illegal circumstances, its like asking a state of origin side to play each week in the NRL.

The punishment is fair and well thought out.
Although if I was Manly or Parramatta, I would be organising unofficial premiership victory parties.
 
nomore4s said:
But if Geelong were found to be cheating the cap this year during this season to the same extent as the Storm I would be willing to bet a lot of money the penalties handed down would be along the same lines as the ones handed to the Storm.
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They'd be broadly equivalent I agree, but structered differently due to the importance AFL clubs place on the National Draft.
 
Broadway said:
The other argument is if they all agree to a pay cut, let them play for points.
This is still a flawed argument because the team was put together under illegal circumstances, its like asking a state of origin side to play each week in the NRL.
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I'm thinking this issue of payment should be sorted out immediatly too... either by pay cuts, someone quitting or a player that was knowingly involved, sacked, then they would have a good case to go to court to win the right to play for points from now on.

Seems rediculous to allow an illegal team to continue to play... like fining a drunk driver or unroadworthy vehicle and allowing him/her to keep driving home.
 
Whiskers said:
Seems rediculous to allow an illegal team to continue to play...
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Absolutley correct the problem being that there's probably IMO 3-4 other teams that are operating outside the salary cap rules (but without a whistle blower it will be very hard to prove)

And IMO the harshness of these penalties put upon the Storm are a warning to other clubs to be careful

And talking about fairness...Won't teams who play the storm later in the season be put at an advantage because they will be able to rest key players?
 
Go the STORM. :) I hear since this story has come out they have had over 700+ new club members.. 100 a day is very good for a NRL team. ;)
 
Calliope said:
The scenario will probably go like this;

The Storms will head the unofficial league tables into the finals. They will win the finals if allowed to play. The losers will get the Premiership.
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The Storm can't play finals footy because they will have zero points at the end of the competition rounds.
 
Another Gomer Pyle moment.

$1.1 million pokies cash for player sponsorships.

Storm link to pokie club's $1.1m community benefit payment
CAMERON HOUSTON AND MARIS BECK
May 2, 2010

MELBOURNE Storm is under investigation by Victoria's gambling watchdog over $1.1 million in sponsorship payments made by a Keysborough pokie venue owned by Bruce Mathieson and Woolworths.

http://www.theage.com.au/rugby-leag...-community-benefit-payment-20100501-u0bo.html
 
GumbyLearner said:
Another Gomer Pyle moment.

$1.1 million pokies cash for player sponsorships.

Storm link to pokie club's $1.1m community benefit payment
CAMERON HOUSTON AND MARIS BECK
May 2, 2010

MELBOURNE Storm is under investigation by Victoria's gambling watchdog over $1.1 million in sponsorship payments made by a Keysborough pokie venue owned by Bruce Mathieson and Woolworths.

http://www.theage.com.au/rugby-leag...-community-benefit-payment-20100501-u0bo.html
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I heard an ex NRL player talking about how a club would apparently set aside one pokie machine and whatever profit that machine made in a year a specific player would get on top of his official salary.
 
I'd like to see a court challenge against the NRL by the independent directors to test the verasity of the NRL penalty.

There seems to be a degree of intimidation by News Ltd to prevent an independent examination of the facts and adjudication of a fair penalty.

If the Independent directors fund the case, what has news got to loose or are they afraid of what might come out?
 
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