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Be interesting to see how many people go to the game on the weekend, or even for the rest of the year.

I can understand what you are saying Duckman, but I think he went to far to the point that he has locked out the supporters from the rest of the year

Carlton did the same but they were smart enough to realise that the Club would be there for the long term.

I really think after this the Melbourne Storm will be dead, as mentioned from other posters.

Supporters will find other games to attend.
 
Tink said:
I really think after this the Melbourne Storm will be dead, as mentioned from other posters.

Supporters will find other games to attend.
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Yes, they were mainly a team of imported professionals who deserted their own clubs attracted by the big money. They had few Melbourne or Victorian links.
 
Calliope said:
Yes, they were mainly a team of imported professionals who deserted their own clubs attracted by the big money. They had few Melbourne or Victorian links.
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Well the same thing happened when the Brisbane Lions and the Sydney Swans were relocated (Fitzroy and Sth Melbourne), it was hard enough to get people to the game, and if something like this happened there, I doubt the AFL would have gone to this extreme.

Carlton was never stripped of premierships and I cant remember if they lost all the points.
 
Tink said:
I really think after this the Melbourne Storm will be dead, as mentioned from other posters.

Supporters will find other games to attend.
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Since i was seven union and NRL were my favourites followed by AFL...last few years its changed to Union and AFL. I dont even bother with the NRL anymore, whenever I watch it I just can't forget all the scandals that have played out over the years and now it all just reminds me of what stereotypical rednecks would be like. I wonder how many people will begin to support the Melbourne rebels or the AFL instead of NRL. Anyone here a storm member and tried to get a refund on their 2010 membership?
 
Tink said:
Be interesting to see how many people go to the game on the weekend, or even for the rest of the year.

I can understand what you are saying Duckman, but I think he went to far to the point that he has locked out the supporters from the rest of the year.
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The NRL shouldn't be seen as responsible for locking out and disappointing supporters. The administrators of Storm took on that responsibility with each illegal transaction they oversaw.

The NRL realised it would be a complete sham if the Storm beat any team home in 2010. How can you possibly penalise a team for a systemic, deliberate and unhanded manipulation of the salary cap over a 5 year period, and then invite them back into the competition with the list that had been built on corruption!!

The heavy handed approach makes me wonder if there are more to come and the NRL know it and are setting the benchmark.

The level of support for League will be a concern for the NRL in the long term. In my opinion I think the Storm will get some strong support from the diehard fans for the next few weeks, but you have to question what the support is going to be like in the middle of August on a freezing wet and cold night in Melbourne. Are the supporters still going to be behind a club, just going through the motions?

People forget that while Melbourne has been a successful club over the past decade, it has mainly been on-field. The club still only averages crowds of 11,000 to 13,000, despite premiership successes, drawcard players like Slater, and a dominant home ground record. It was heavily subsidised by News Ltd and questions already existed about its viability under the new era of an independant commission. It is hardly what you would call a strong foothold in Victoria.

If this is the amount of ground Rugby League has made in Victoria after 10 years of success, what ground will it lose with, reduced funding, reduced marquee players, reduced on field success and reduced credibility over the next 10 years?

There has always been a question mark over the Storm franchise. While Melbourne has been an "expansion" into another market, it has always been seen as an artifical expansion. How "artifical" will now be fully tested by the grass roots level of support Storm will need over the next 5 years. I'm not prepared to put Melbourne Storm in the same basket as the Western Reds and the Adelaide Rams, and for people like Phil Gould to call for the franchise to be moved to Brisbane are crazy, but the glory days are a long way behind them that's for sure.

Duckman
 
Yep, I am not fussed Duckman, but just weighing it up with the AFL and when they relocated their teams interstate, trying to make it National, just seems the NRL have crushed their own game.

As I said, I am not an NRL fan.
 
Tink said:
Yep, I am not fussed Duckman, but just weighing it up with the AFL and when they relocated their teams interstate, trying to make it National, just seems the NRL have crushed their own game.
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I agree.

Duckman the sporting enthusiast says "That makes the decision Gallop and the NRL took even more commendable. He is a quality sports administrator."

Duckman the rabid AFL nutter says "David Gallop is the best administrator the AFL have got.":D

Duckman
 
Destroying the Melb storm cannot be good for the Game, that's the big mistake for the NRL .. leaving Melb with nothing to play for almost certainly destroys them...the NRL had an opportunity to make the worst thing to happen to the game, also perhaps one of the best.

By giving the storm the opportunity to compete from this point on with 0 competition points, they would have a chance to get some sort of team redemption, and a sort of fairy tale (comeback of the century) ending to the season could be possible.
 
So_Cynical said:
Destroying the Melb storm cannot be good for the Game, that's the big mistake for the NRL .. leaving Melb with nothing to play for almost certainly destroys them...the NRL had an opportunity to make the worst thing to happen to the game, also perhaps one of the best.
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Then when you take into account the new Union francise & a second soccer club starting in Melbourne, even if Storm survive they have lost their claim to the niche non-AFL market in the city.
 
I have just got back from the Melbourne Storm training session after the Bellamy press conference. What a strange energy at the new Stadium. Hard to quantify, but I think the overwhelming sense was one of absolute loyalty by the Storm supporters and faithful. Although there is the overwhelming sadness by what has happened (loss of the two flags weighs the heaviest), the players put on a brave face and really embraced the crowd.

It will be fascinating to see what eventuates from here. Who will leave? What will happen to Waldron? How will this year pan out knowing the club is playing for effectively nothing. This is such a shame that the crime was concocted by a few and it has tarnished the club to such a degree. I wonder if the club could have still won the two flags without the rort? I certainly do not think it will be the end of the Storm however.

Go Storm!!!
 
Garpal Gumnut said:
The Storm are a pack of scumbags, and Manly should be awarded Premiership for 2007.

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The scenario will probably go like this;

The Storms will head the unofficial league tables into the finals. They will win the finals if allowed to play. The losers will get the Premiership.
 
Ill be there at Diary Farmers this Saturday wearing the Storm jersey and still waving the flag. Still the best team for the last 10 years. Funny that some believe that 'their' club does not exceed the salary cap in one way or another... cannot wait to see the red faces when they all get found out in the months to come... :)

The Storm have been great for the NRL you cannot doubt that.
 
moXJO said:
Jaycar is on Storms side

http://resources.news.com.au/files/2010/04/29/1225859/683081-dtfille-bulldogs-ad.pdf
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The team is currently stacked with too much talent, alot more than any other nrl team can afford. If they are allowed to play for points then the disadvantage is to every other team and all their sponsors and fans. Every year teams have to let good upcoming talent go because they cant afford to keep them, why not melbourne?

The punishment is correct and fair, and dont tell me the players are innocent (noone can seriously believe the players didnt realise what the extra money was for?) or the other teams are doing it, without any proof.

Baseball in the USA is a dead sport for the majority of cities outside the rich yankees and redsox. Deleting the salary cap does not work. Why do you think the NFL and NBA have salary caps. An even competition is in everyones best interest.
 
Broadway said:
The team is currently stacked with too much talent, alot more than any other nrl team can afford. If they are allowed to play for points then the disadvantage is to every other team and all their sponsors and fans. Every year teams have to let good upcoming talent go because they cant afford to keep them, why not melbourne?

The punishment is correct and fair, and dont tell me the players are innocent (noone can seriously believe the players didnt realise what the extra money was for?) or the other teams are doing it, without any proof.

Baseball in the USA is a dead sport for the majority of cities outside the rich yankees and redsox. Deleting the salary cap does not work. Why do you think the NFL and NBA have salary caps. An even competition is in everyones best interest.
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I'm not a storms supporter:p:
What happens if they drop players and go under the cap? It seems a bit stupid to have a team play for no points.
 
Yep moXJO, I agree.

As I said before, Carlton went through NONE of this in the AFL and they did the same.

Good on you Lachlan and John for supporting your Club, but I think you will be waiting if you think others will be brought in line.

Would have been a few bonfires going on at the Clubs ridding evidence.
 
Tink said:
As I said before, Carlton went through NONE of this in the AFL and they did the same.
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Because Carlton didn't win anything, but they paid the price - only now are they again getting a competitive team together.

Also Carlton's breach was nowhere near the extent of the Storm's rorting.
 
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