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LNC - Linc Energy

So far as I'm concerned this company is too focused on newsletters, promotional stunts and so on and not sufficiently focused on actually producing a product they can sell (that is, bringing some money in).

Remember the "Diesel Dash"? It made a nice point yes, but what was the commercial point of it really? Why promote that your fuel works, when you don't actually have any fuel available to sell? The only point I can see is to draw attention to the company itself and thus encourage investors to buy shares. It's not as though anyone who saw the vehicle has the opportunity to purchase the product themselves.

Wouldn't it make more sense that at this scale of operation they just sell any diesel etc they make to someone like BP, Caltex, Shell or whoever as a bulk product and not worry about the marketing? I know that the major oil companies have certainly agreed to take the production of minor fuel producers in the past and blend it with their own stock. So far as technical requirements are concerned, obviously they'd insist on proper lab testing but they do that with the output of their own refineries anyway so it's no big deal.

Same with the raw syngas from UCG. If it were me, I'd start by just selling the stuff "as is" as fuel to power stations or a large factory etc for which it is quite suitable. That would get cash coming in. Worry about the liquids production and/or building their own power stations later. For the moment, just be the upstream supplier of an alternative fuel and sell it "as is" to whoever you can find to buy it.

I can assure you that management of thermal power stations (those that run on coal, gas or oil and which account for 90% or so of all power generated in Australia) are always willing to talk to anyone who suggests the possibility of cheaper fuel since fuel is by far their largest operating expense.

I like the technology this company has that is for sure. But as much as I like the idea, I just don't trust that management is sufficiently focused on running the business as such. :2twocents
 
Ok . It's midnight on Cup Day and my nags are still trying to find the finish line....

So why not spin another Linc Energy Story....

It seems that the Russian billionaire Roman Abramovich has jetted into Brisbane and Perth last week on a mystery business trip.

I reckon... that he intends to jump into Linc Energy and take a piece of the action with Peter Bond. He has had a long look at the UCG technology that LNC now owns (remembering that the first plant is in Russia) and can see how he can turn Russian coal into syn gas, clean electricity and clean diesel fuel.

Remember that he has just bought 15% of AFC in UK which is the pivotal piece of technology between UCG and clean low cost, no CO2 electricty.

And Peter Bond and Linc badly need to pull a very big bunny out of the hat.

And we all lived happily ever after.

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By the way LNC has "jumped" 10% from Friday morning....

http://www.theage.com.au/national/abramovichs-plane-spotted-in-australia-20121106-28w15.html
http://www.telegraph.co.uk/finance/...movich-boosts-fuel-cell-group-AFC-Energy.html
 
Linc Energy in talks with billionaire Abramovich:

Published 6:12 AM, 8 Nov 2012 Last update 6:12 AM, 8 Nov 2012

Queensland-based resource company Linc Energy may be reading to ink (?) an investment deal with one of the world's wealthiest investors, Roman Abramovich, following a brief visit to Australia last weekend that saw Mr Abramovich tour Linc's coal gasification facilities after dinner with Linc Energy chief executive Peter Bond, according to The Australian Financial Review.

Talks between the two of fuelled speculation that Mr Abramovich ”” who made his fortune in the oil industry in the 1990s and currently owns Chelsea Football Club ”” may be planning to invest in Australia's resources sector or to use Linc's technology in Russia, the newspaper reported

1 + 1 = 2 . ...

This should start up a flurry of interest in LNC. Roman Abramaovich is systematically investing in all the industries associated with fuel cells and syngas production.

http://www.businessspectator.com.au...re-Abramovich-r-pd20121107-ZTPU7?OpenDocument
 
Ok . It's midnight on Cup Day and my nags are still trying to find the finish line....

So why not spin another Linc Energy Story....

It seems that the Russian billionaire Roman Abramovich has jetted into Brisbane and Perth last week on a mystery business trip.

I reckon... that he intends to jump into Linc Energy and take a piece of the action with Peter Bond. He has had a long look at the UCG technology that LNC now owns (remembering that the first plant is in Russia) and can see how he can turn Russian coal into syn gas, clean electricity and clean diesel fuel.

Remember that he has just bought 15% of AFC in UK which is the pivotal piece of technology between UCG and clean low cost, no CO2 electricty.

And Peter Bond and Linc badly need to pull a very big bunny out of the hat.

And we all lived happily ever after.

__________________________________________________________________________________

By the way LNC has "jumped" 10% from Friday morning....

http://www.theage.com.au/national/abramovichs-plane-spotted-in-australia-20121106-28w15.html
http://www.telegraph.co.uk/finance/...movich-boosts-fuel-cell-group-AFC-Energy.html

Your theory/story is a good one basilio.
It now makes it a tough call if or not to buy a parcel "long" for near term speculation alone.
MR A appears to create a following much like MR Soros.

(Non LNC share holder)
 
Your theory/story is a good one basilio.
It now makes it a tough call if or not to buy a parcel "long" for near term speculation alone.
MR A appears to create a following much like MR Soros.

(Non LNC share holder)

Posted this elsewhere:

Put it this way - when you are as rich as he is, money is no longer the most valuable commodity in the world.

His most valuable commodity is time.

He would not waste his -extremely- valuable time flying to Brisbane to have dinner with Peter Bond just on a whim.

He came here to stitch up a UCG deal with Linc Energy and Russia (Russia has the second largest coal reserves in the world amounting to 19% of the world's total) or he's going to take a 10% stake in Linc Energy.

He definitely came here for something. Mark my words.
 
Posted this elsewhere:

Put it this way - when you are as rich as he is, money is no longer the most valuable commodity in the world.

His most valuable commodity is time.

He would not waste his -extremely- valuable time flying to Brisbane to have dinner with Peter Bond just on a whim.

He came here to stitch up a UCG deal with Linc Energy and Russia (Russia has the second largest coal reserves in the world amounting to 19% of the world's total) or he's going to take a 10% stake in Linc Energy.

He definitely came here for something. Mark my words.
Hello Vercengetrix. Why 10%?
 
Umiat oil field update. 12th Nov.

http://www.itnews.it/news/2012/1112000003049/linc-energy-limited-asx-lnc-umiat-oil-field-update.html

(Not a LNC share holder)
 
I'm not sure if this article has been highlighted on this thread before....

www.afr.com/p/opinion/barcap_to_sell_linc_shale_gas_assets_RKO7qBka35HGEP2TuOK3JJ
 
I'm not sure if this article has been highlighted on this thread before....

www.afr.com/p/opinion/barcap_to_sell_linc_shale_gas_assets_RKO7qBka35HGEP2TuOK3JJ

Has been put on the table by Peter Bond earlier this year.

I don't think there has been any indication to date of how cost effective it will be to exploit this resource. Could be a real Pig in a poke.

I remember telephone book figures for the total resources disovered but getting it and making dollar may be something completely different.

Umait looks more interesting however.
 
Good news for Linc going forward.

Gautam Adani defies trend with $10bn Galilee project
BY: AMANDA HODGE, SOUTH ASIA CORRESPONDENT From: The Australian December 03, 2012 12:00AM


AUSTRALIA'S largest Indian investor Adani Group will push ahead with its $10 billion Carmichael Coal mine, rail and port project in central Queensland, defying the commodities slowdown that has clipped the ambitions of many Australian miners.

Chairman Gautam Adani announced yesterday his company had completed exploration in a record nine months and intended to export to India its first coal shipment from the mine by January 2016, taking advantage of the resources industry slowdown that has freed up manpower to begin construction work.

(Currently not an LNC share holder)
 
Adanis progress to building its mega coal mine is excellent news for LNC. At the very least it firms up the value of LNCs 20 year royalty deal with Adani. It's nominal value would be around $2.B (20 x 100m per year plus inflation) . If the deal was sold earlier to another institution the figure would be far less but surely around the $500-600m mark.

Current market value for all of LNC is $366 m
 
LNC has released an update on the Adani coal project.

Peter Bond is making sure the market realises LNC has a lot of skin in this game and that the $100 m plus royalties from the coal sales every year are not chicken feed and will go straight to the bottom line. That could conceivably be worth 40c a year dividends to ordinary shareholders . (and yes pigs might fly as well...)

http://newsstore.fairfax.com.au/app...theage.com.au/apps/qt/quote.ac?code=lnc&f=pdf
 
LNC has released an update on the Adani coal project.

Peter Bond is making sure the market realises LNC has a lot of skin in this game and that the $100 m plus royalties from the coal sales every year are not chicken feed and will go straight to the bottom line. That could conceivably be worth 40c a year dividends to ordinary shareholders . (and yes pigs might fly as well...)

http://newsstore.fairfax.com.au/app...theage.com.au/apps/qt/quote.ac?code=lnc&f=pdf

The chart is looking promising. The 18 month down trend is all but finished.

82c resistance being tested yesterday and today.

It looks poised for a breakout.

Apologies don't have time to post a chart.
 
LNC has released an update on the Adani coal project.

Peter Bond is making sure the market realises LNC has a lot of skin in this game and that the $100 m plus royalties from the coal sales every year are not chicken feed and will go straight to the bottom line. That could conceivably be worth 40c a year dividends to ordinary shareholders . (and yes pigs might fly as well...)

http://newsstore.fairfax.com.au/app...theage.com.au/apps/qt/quote.ac?code=lnc&f=pdf

Where did I get that 40c dividend from ? Quite wrong. $100m across 500m shares is worth 20c a share all up. But there would still be case for a 10c a share dividend.

Its interesting however how energy and mining companies are loath to pay dividends to shareholders.
 
Where did I get that 40c dividend from ? Quite wrong. $100m across 500m shares is worth 20c a share all up. But there would still be case for a 10c a share dividend.

Its interesting however how energy and mining companies are loath to pay dividends to shareholders.

True Bas. Particularily when PB has so many projects to fund. I imagine when considering to sell the royalty, he would take into account the taxation on the sale. It may be a better decision to hold onto it for a few years. In that case a 5c dividend per year would be acceptable.

If the Adani plans work out and they are exporting 60MT in 2022, the royalty is likely to be around $150M with CPI inflation. (ie 30c per share).
 
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