wayneL
VIVA LA LIBERTAD, CARAJO!
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Larrikinism is one thing, and the parliamentary record is full it. But that's not what Lidia was doing. It was crass stupidity by a psychologically unwell person which would make parliament and society dysfunctional. Anyone supporting what is essentially ideological Tourette's syndrome as an exemplary of behaviour is an asinine moron (tautology intentional) and a moral vandal.One thing about Lidia Thorpe (who is not really my cup of tea but good on her) is that it's great to see the authentic Australian value on display that built our nation, that's the same value Australian diggers had while dying in the trenches.
Larrikinism a beautiful thing but sadly lacking in this thread.
Grovel on everybody.
Still focusing on the ideology, rather than the practicalities.No one here voted for the big eared adulterous twit, We do not live in a democracy as long as the groverling bedwetting conservatives along with anyone else who opposes electing those that govern us and so that if we don't like them then we puck them off.
With the big eared adulterous twit that's not possible and remains our head of state regardless.
One thing about Lidia Thorpe (who is not really my cup of tea but good on her) is that it's great to see the authentic Australian value on display that built our nation, that's the same value Australian diggers had while dying in the trenches.
Larrikinism a beautiful thing but sadly lacking in this thread.
Grovel on everybody.
Still focusing on the ideology, rather than the practicalities.
Typical Labor, always trying to fix things that aren't broken and ending up with a bigger mess than they started with.
That is literally something I would have said to the teacher to get out of something when I was 9 years old in school.This woman is a juvenile twit who needs medical treatment in my opinion.
Lidia Thorpe says she swore allegiance to the queen's 'hairs', not her heirs, after King Charles protest
Independent senator Lidia Thorpe has offered an extraordinary defence of whether she breached her parliamentary oath when she interrupted a royal reception, claiming she in fact pledged allegiance to the queen's "hairs" rather than her "heirs".www.abc.net.au
Given that there are about 250 'mobs' that claim ownership of the country, who are you actually going to sign a treaty with?You can acquire that sovereignty, or more correctly it can be ceded, by negotiation, by treaty with the somebody who actually owns it.
You don't have to answer, but are you part Aboriginal or closely related by intermarriage etc? Your dedication to this nonsense seems way above the average leftist or cultural Marxist.Saw this on another forum the poster is a lawyer.
"King Charles' hereditary claim to sovereignty over the continent of Australia remains deeply flawed at law.
She is actually speaking a truth to power, an important truth not just about our past but our future.
Charles' claim rests on the flag raising and unilateral proclamation of sovereign ownership in the name of his ancestor King George at the ceremony conducted by Cook at Kurnell in 1770.
The legality of that ceremony rests on the legal concept of terra nullius, "nobody's land". In other words you can legally claim sovereignty by proclamation if it is nobody's land.
In fact and in law and so held by the High Court in Mabo, it was somebody's land, the FNP nations.
So you can't or legally it shouldn't be valid to just show up and proclaim you are the sovereign power unilaterally. You can acquire that sovereignty, or more correctly it can be ceded, by negotiation, by treaty with the somebody who actually owns it. as Hobson did on behalf of his King, with the rangatira Maori in NZ in 1840.
The issue of sovereign possession and authority by the British Crown is not live in NZ because of this.
The issue is still very live here, and unless and until is is resolved FNP like Lidia Thorpe and others will continue to raise it, and correctly so.
Whether you agree with how they raise it is up to personal interpretation.
And in spite of the abhorrence felt by many at the idea and the complexity of how it would work, the concept of a treaty that retrospectively cleans up this anomaly is actually a practical solution. A solution to this and other matters.
Never gonna happen with the current leadership or the alternative we have at present, or the public mood evidenced by the Voice vote. But the chant "always was always will be" holds a solid ring of truth unless and until this issue is resolved.
There is a dark shadow over the legal legitimacy of how power is derived and exercised in this country that has existed since 1770. It needs to be dealt with."
You don't have to answer, but are you part Aboriginal or closely related by intermarriage etc? Your dedication to this nonsense seems way above the average leftist or cultural Marxist.
Given the result of the last referendum, what chance do you think it has of passing?
our culture (rejection of authority and everyone is equal absolutely no Lords or Sirs)
I call BS.No none of the above but have lived, seen / experienced the tragedy around Aboriginal lives both those that were (all the guys I know are now dead) fully assimilated, partly and those still practicing culture (not many).
Wife does have a relative that's fully initiated (quite rare these days) but that's another story.
I think the failure of Australians to confront and address the Aboriginal issues allowing them to front it all and be accountable (have a Voice) amounts to cowardice.
My sympathy comes from a serious problem that been failed to be addressed and affects many relegating them to 2nd class citizens which as an Australian I find is intolerable.
As for the English Royals I admire the traditions the Poms practice but for Australia it all goes completely against our culture (rejection of authority and everyone is equal absolutely no Lords or Sirs) just find the charade cringeworthy.
so sit down and stfu.
Clearly you haven't met my wifeThe abuse continues do you bash your wife as well?
Seems a matter now of ideology vs practicality and practicality usually wins in the end.Zero to minus
The point was in Law Charles has no legal standing as per the High Court's ruling in the Mabo case just though it was interesting.
Seems a matter now of ideology vs practicality and practicality usually wins in the end.
The practicality is in trying to change the system. It's been tried once and failed and I can't see a great civil uprising for change.In terms of practicality Charley certainly shouldn't be head of state for Australia its a complete nonsense IMHO.
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