Level of participation in stock threads

[springhill]

I think you've hit the nail on the head there S/H ....... for the average trader to keep up with the quantity of posts you have been putting up, they would need a lot of "spare" time .... most people are time poor ... and possibly don't have a lot of "dry powder" to throw around considering the current Spec climate.

Perhaps a filter such as "Market Cap divided by available Cash is equal to or greater than 40%" might narrow down the field, and eliminate a lot of the time/work you are spending/doing when choosing whether to consider further investigation of a Spec play?? Just a thought

Thanks mate good advice and I appreciate it.
I have definately been throwing the net too far and wide and am catching mostly catfish and old boots.
A MC:Cash ratio is something I have been toying with, just have to see what it brings in and what it eliminates.

 

[barney]

Thanks mate good advice and I appreciate it.
I have definately been throwing the net too far and wide and am catching mostly catfish and old boots.
A MC:Cash ratio is something I have been toying with, just have to see what it brings in and what it eliminates.

LOL ...... At least you can get some use out of an old boot


There are probably many more filters you could throw at Specs to eliminate the "catfish", but if they have no available cash, life is gona be tough in the short term ....

On the reverse scenaro ..... if times are tough and a Spec is able to raise Cash (without massive dilution), then that could be a big plus

 

[noirua]

I visit about 21 Financial bulletin boards that still exist, and probably 70 or so since 1998. For some, the collapse was due to the dot-com boom and bust, they backed it, got it wrong, and were bust.

The answer to why ASF has not increased the number of posts, it deserves about 20 times more, is contained in the posts on this thread in the last four weeks or so -- you need to think deeply however and extremely self critically.

ASFs Administrator is number one as far as I'm concerned but I'm not sure all the helpers are quite on the same plot and adding that extra magic, the unwritten rule ' commonsense ' with viva - verve - and finesse - not meant to upset, more to point out the need for flair and experience, drive, and enthusiasm. YEP! - I'm not up to the job, as it needs all these things, probably too old but in age we admit things that when we have not reached even 50 yet, being self critical, and at times, self damning, is impossible.

Threads need to go off-topic to keep the posts going and I've learnt on many sites, that a person who is off-topic very often, is not an idiot, they keep XYZ Limited posts going when there are no announcements and little interest. If they don't, when a post is made there is NO ONE THERE TO RESPOND. It is basic and ASF have failed in this and that is why many threads have no posts or very few or massive gaps, sometimes years.

Hate me if you like for what I've written here, it doesn't matter, the grim reaper is not all that far away, for me -- good luck, good fortune - noi

 

[tech/a]

Noirua

You not well old son?

 

[MrBurns]

Noirua

You not well old son?

+1 ?

 

[joea]

Noirua

You not well old son?

The ambulance is fast approaching!!
joea

 

[Julia]

Noirua

You not well old son?

+2?

 

[prawn_86]

Personally i have noticed a lot more varied discussion of late, not just spec stocks, but lots of 'mainstream' names like CKF, ORL, COH, DMP etc.

I think a lot more investors are looking towards larger stocks at the moment and the more info we can provide/discuss, the more people will then also look at other stocks being discussed

 

[Joe Blow]

Folks, we could really, really, really use some more posts in threads on individual stocks. We are currently hitting rock bottom and the situation is now getting quite desperate. A stock market forum without discussion of stocks really is like a pub with no beer.

ASF is a forum full of people interested in the stock market, so I am assuming that people either hold stocks, are trading them, or have a watch list of stocks that they are actively monitoring.

What I am interested in feedback on is why there is only a handful of people posting about stocks? The last post in a stock thread today was before the market even opened!

 

[pavilion103]

More than happy to whack some charts and my thoughts on the stocks that I'm trading.

I guess for me there are a couple of reasons I am so light in those threads.

1) I'm so busy posting charts and updating portfolios in other threads and I this already takes up a fair bit of time.

2) Because when I do, hardly anyone replies. (Yes I know.... someone has to get things moving). TBH this has frustrated me previously and like yourself I am disappointed by the lack of participation in the individual stock threads.

 

[MrBurns]

Folks, we could really, really, really use some more posts in threads on individual stocks. We are currently hitting rock bottom and the situation is now getting quite desperate. A stock market forum without discussion of stocks really is like a pub with no beer.

ASF is a forum full of people interested in the stock market, so I am assuming that people either hold stocks, are trading them, or have a watch list of stocks that they are actively monitoring.

What I am interested in feedback on is why there is only a handful of people posting about stocks? The last post in a stock thread today was before the market even opened!

Could be partly because people are reading them but not posting, getting information but not posting.

On a number of occasions I've seen strange things happening with TLS but no one has said a word, the last post in there was from me on 5/11

Maybe it's the nature of stock forums, you'd have to compare it with others if you can.

 

[Porper]

Folks, we could really, really, really use some more posts in threads on individual stocks. We are currently hitting rock bottom and the situation is now getting quite desperate. A stock market forum without discussion of stocks really is like a pub with no beer.

ASF is a forum full of people interested in the stock market, so I am assuming that people either hold stocks, are trading them, or have a watch list of stocks that they are actively monitoring.

What I am interested in feedback on is why there is only a handful of people posting about stocks? The last post in a stock thread today was before the market even opened!

I think it just emphasises the fact we are not in a bull market. Smaller cap stocks generally have underperformed...and continue to struggle. As always there are exceptions. People get frustrated and stop posting. If this forum was in the U.S it would be a different story I am sure.

 

[Ves]

Why not limit General Forum access unless people put equal amount of effort into posting in stock threads? It's a stock forum - not a political forum. Some people rack up in excess of 100+ posts per month (often in a week) almost (and sometimes) exclusively spreading whatever party propaganda it is that is the current flavour of the moment. If individuals needed to make at least 5 stock related posts per either 10-20 posts then there would be a lot more activity. Yes.... quantity does not always equal quality, but it is better than nothing and may encourage others to contribute.

Make them earn that right - and you'll soon see more activity. And if on the off chance that certain people leave because of it - stiff ****, judging by the current posting activity in stock threads they weren't contributing any way. That's my two cents.

 

[nulla nulla]

I think it just emphasises the fact we are not in a bull market....People get frustrated and stop posting. If this forum was in the U.S it would be a different story I am sure.

It is certainly true that the All Ords has underperformed the Dow. We have struggled over a 5 year period to reach 5400 and are still 10% below our pre gfc peak of 6000+, while the Dow has challenged their pre gfc peak. Our market is probably a more realistic reflection of our economy than the Dow is of the U.S. quantative easing inflated market is a reflection of the U.S economy. Lets face it, regardless of politics we are far better off. Yet their market is booming?

It certainly makes it harder to post enthusiasticaly about the prospects of further growth etc in respect of Australian shares, when we are head butting exposure to the inflated highs of the international markets; exposed to the danger of supposed local property bubbles; constantly adjusting to the impact on our economy of chinese monetary tightening; and endlessly adjusting to the flow on effect of the U.S. quantative easing rumours and the prospect of U.S. debt ceiling defaults. To be honest, trying to trade at the moment is like playing in a house of cards knowing that at any moment it will come crashing down arround your head.

Trading volumes are down across the the All Ords (despite the fact that margin loans are on the increase again?). So it isn't surprising that stock posts are down also. All I can say is be patient. If you are posting, take note of the number of views your thread is receiving. You will see that many people are at least reading your posts even if they are not commenting. If you are reading someone else's post, don't be timid about asking a question or posting additional information. All input is welcome and you may know something or have a different perspective that can help everyone else.

No doubt when confidence in the market picks up so will the level of enthusiastic posts. Cheers, and as always do your own research .

 

[pavilion103]

Why not limit General Forum access unless people put equal amount of effort into posting in stock threads? It's a stock forum - not a political forum. Some people rack up in excess of 100+ posts per month (often in a week) almost (and sometimes) exclusively spreading whatever party propaganda it is that is the current flavour of the moment. If individuals needed to make at least 5 stock related posts per either 10-20 posts then there would be a lot more activity. Yes.... quantity does not always equal quality, but it is better than nothing and may encourage others to contribute. Make them earn that right - and you'll soon see more activity. And if on the off chance that certain people leave because of it - stiff ****, judging by the current posting activity in stock threads they weren't contributing any way. That's my two cents.

I like this idea.
I haven't idea why the general threads are so active compared to the stock ones.
I think it's good having the general section but this is a stock forum for crying out loud.
I crave more chats about trading/stocks!
Sick of always seeing most recent threads as general ones!

 

[Julia]

Why not limit General Forum access unless people put equal amount of effort into posting in stock threads? It's a stock forum - not a political forum. Some people rack up in excess of 100+ posts per month (often in a week) almost (and sometimes) exclusively spreading whatever party propaganda it is that is the current flavour of the moment. If individuals needed to make at least 5 stock related posts per either 10-20 posts then there would be a lot more activity. Yes.... quantity does not always equal quality, but it is better than nothing and may encourage others to contribute.

Make them earn that right - and you'll soon see more activity. And if on the off chance that certain people leave because of it - stiff ****, judging by the current posting activity in stock threads they weren't contributing any way. That's my two cents.

If you're going to adopt that sort of demand, then might as well simply delete the whole of the General forum.
That would solve your problem, it would seem, if your objection is that people post in general threads but less in stock threads. That would give you your dedicated pure stock forum.

It might be good to remember that various members have various aims and for some of us who have done our days of accumulation and are now focused on simply preserving capital, we're not going to be getting involved with risky speccie stocks which mostly seem to be what occupy the stock threads.
There's not a whole lot to say about most of the top 200 which are there largely because of their proven profitability, stability, and increasing DPS and EPS.

That's not to say that these members do not contribute to Super and general investment type threads, but by all means dismiss them from those also if they don't reach your prescribed quota of contributions to stock threads.

Further, it's a strong disincentive to comment in stock threads where the bunch of 'value investors' are all agreeing with one another, and if anyone dares to offer a different approach, the whole pack retaliates. People just don't want to invite that sort of response so just choose not to contribute.

And thanks to Nulla Nulla who not only puts up interesting charts with intelligent commentary, but has made a sensible contribution to this thread also.

 

[McLovin]

I like this idea.

+2

I often wonder how many people don't bother with this forum because the first thing you're bombarded with is the general forum, which seems to be the same handful of people with the same dribble day-in day-out. And before people get their knickers in a knot, I don't mean everyone who posts in the general forum.

Further, it's a strong disincentive to comment in stock threads where the bunch of 'value investors' are all agreeing with one another, and if anyone dares to offer a different approach, the whole pack retaliates. People just don't want to invite that sort of response so just choose not to contribute.

Do you have an example of that?

 

[burglar]

... the same handful of people with the same dribble day-in day-out.

How do you know it's the same handful of people with the same dribble day-in day-out?

I avoid those threads and those posts, simply by not opening them!!

 

[Julia]

Do you have an example of that?

There have been plenty. However, I'm not about to trawl through old stuff to find them now.

FWIW, I wouldn't be including you in my earlier comment.

 

[McLovin]

How do you know it's the same handful of people with the same dribble day-in day-out?

Just look at the posting stats for one of those random threads. Usually about half the posts come from 3 or 4 posters.

There have been plenty. However, I'm not about to trawl through old stuff to find them now.

FWIW, I wouldn't be including you in my earlier comment.

I only ask because, aside from the odd first time poster who's just read his first FA book, I can't recall an instance of it happening. We (FA) certainly seem to get our fair share of mud flinged at us by a select few on here.