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Legalise some drugs, outlaw others?

This one seems to be doing the rounds.


 
On the west upper verandah of the hotel here in South Townsville, when we get the sea breezes, you don't even need to buy it.

It just requires a deep inhale.

Full 90% of folk in ST must be smoking yarndie. It's become a basket weaving suburb now, with the rich able to smoke it not just on pension day, but everyday.

It should be legalized, like cohibas.

gg
 
Insanity: doing the same thing over and over again and expecting different results. Albert Einstein

i think it was Pablo Escobar who said it didn't mater how much of the cocaine he sent to the USA was interdicted. he received the same amount of $ whether 100% ot just 0.01% of his product made it across the border.

I'm 50:50 if we need to change the laws.

I definitely believe the warnings about drugs need to be made in a more realistic manner. A lot of it is just not, well it's based on the 1% rather than on the harm minimisation that needs to be at the forefront of thinking.

AFAIC if Alcohol and Tobacco are legal then probably small quantities of other drugs should be decriminalised too.

IF you look at how the gay community handles the issue - don't be afraid to get help and just be honest with why your friend is sick

Compared against a lot of young "main stream" people who are too afraid to get help until it's too late.

I'd say dabbling in drugs has been around since gunga was discovered, fermented fruit was eaten, and well it seems like teenagers will always feel invincible.

Prohibition for alcohol was a complete failure, and it's been a complete failure for any other type of drug.

personally i think the Govt would be better off making some of it themselves, selling quality pharmaceutical grade product at a highly taxed price, along with some form of mandatory counselling and drive out the shoddy dealers peddling lethal product.

Yes, take responsibility for ya actions, but I'd prefer it wasn't lethal or permanently life altering.

nb: I've dabbled in the illegal side of the fence, had my fun and moved on. Always say it can be fun, but NEVER EVER think it's REAL!
 
CNN Article

 
CNN Article

I believe in California the State Govt is going to legalise it but then leave it up to the counties to decide if they will allow the sale of it and to what extend they will tax it.

Considering California's debt is over 10 times the Aust Fed Govt's I can see the $$$$ signs sparkling in some county officials eyes.
 
I still fail to see how/why a state can have a legislatipon that directly goes against federal laws. Does this occur anywhere in Aus?

Not that i am against it, the US legal system is just baffling
 
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Canadian Liberal Party webpage

 
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Canadian Liberal Party webpage

Walking around Couver last October I think smoko-clock was around 4pm - same time as it became tripple high beam cold.

A few people said the police have better things to do that pick up someone smoking a joint.
 
Walking around Couver last October I think smoko-clock was around 4pm - same time as it became tripple high beam cold.

A few people said the police have better things to do that pick up someone smoking a joint.

4:20

Known as the 'International Standard Time' for lighting up.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/420_(cannabis_culture)

 
I still fail to see how/why a state can have a legislatipon that directly goes against federal laws. Does this occur anywhere in Aus?

Not that i am against it, the US legal system is just baffling

Sure it can happen anywhere where there's a federal style of government. iirc, marijuana is a Federal issue in the US because they used the very broad Interstate Commerce clause in the Constitution. Basically, if you make marijuana you might take it across state lines, which makes it a Federal issue. The state can't punish or remove a state trooper or other local law enforcement officer for enforcing federal law, but they can tell them to ignore it. Which then means the federal government needs to find its own police. Highly unlikely.

In Australia the Federal territories (ACT/NT) have decriminalised marijuana, while the states have kept it illegal. So yes, the differences do appear everywhere. If one state made it legal, I guess the Federal government here could use the same trade a commerce clause (s51 of our Constitution) to override the state's legilation.

I think people are finally waking up to what a waste of money and time the whole war on drugs is.
 
2 more States in the USA considering....

Hawaii - Aloha! Marijuana Legalization Bill Introduced in Hawaii

Indiana - Marijuana Decriminalization Bill Introduced in Indiana
The bill would also permit the licensed production of industrial hemp, a non-psychoactive agricultural crop used to produce a wide variety of legal products.

Smart move.

HEMP can be used in so many ways.

Paper
Fabrics
Textiles
Rope
Oils

Maybe Gillard could introduce a bill to help the farmers and allow them to grow hemp?

From what I've heard, it's next to impossible to get stoned of Hemp (equivalent of 2 telegraph poles would needed to be smoked).
 

Perhaps allow it just for boomers.

I believe the present hypo is 30 times stronger than myself and Bill Clinton didn't inhale in Little Rock in 1970. (I have the photos by the way to prove it).

For adolescents and teenagers it is quite dangerous to their developing brains.

So maybe a 50+ yo warning on the packs with proof of age required.

gg
 
I believe the present hydro is 30 times stronger than myself and Bill Clinton didn't inhale in Little Rock in 1970. (I have the photos by the way to prove it).

LOL.

Well, if it were regulated and open, you'd know exactly what you were getting.

THC + CBD percentages.

A quick Google search of 'Harborside Medical Center' - worlds largest medical marijuana dispensary doesn't look like the typical propaganda that is put out there by the 'Nay-Sayers'....
















Tons of videos on youtube.....


GG - This one is for you....


Welcome to Harborside Health Center


Now, doesn't that look more civilized than a some doggy drug deal?

  • Employ people - create jobs all the way from grower to user
  • Tax is paid multiple times along the way (growing equipment - soil, electricity, staff if it's a big growing nursery, if it's made into an edible - staff and then the POS end of the chain)
  • People know exactly what they are getting

I read somewhere that 'medical marijuana' is pulling in some very, very nice taxes for the states over there.

Just boggles my mind that if some states in the USA can do this, and normally, why can't we? Feels like we are stuck in the stone ages sometimes...
 
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Texas relaxing penalties. Step in the right direction.

Marijuana Penalty Reduction Bills Filed in Texas


I think WA has the toughest laws in the country.
 
George Soros backs Guatemalan president's call to end war on drugs

 
Off the internet....



http://www.news.com.au/national/dr-death-fresh-warning-over-the-ecstasy-pill-that-kills/story-fncynjr2-1226561826973

Simple solution.....
 
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