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Legalise some drugs, outlaw others?

I just saw one of the new season 'Two and Half Men' episodes. We've jumped the shark I'm afraid.

Charlie has definitely lost his Sheen. The show doesn't work without his confidence and charisma. I guess that's the cocaine. Hard to watch now.
 
I just saw one of the new season 'Two and Half Men' episodes. We've jumped the shark I'm afraid.

Charlie has definitely lost his Sheen. The show doesn't work without his confidence and charisma. I guess that's the cocaine. Hard to watch now.
Haven't sheen it yet. Just watching re-runs. It was a funny show. With the added edge that you knew Charlie was playing Charlie.

He'll be back.
 
like it or not people are going to use illicit drugs no matter what the law is, some people will try it then never touch it again, others will be occasional "social users" while there are always people with addictive natures who will become full blown addicts.
those of us who dont touch the sh*t will make no difference to this equation wether we dis-agree with drug use or not. while ever it remains illegal however, the huge amounts of money involved will fuel drug crime & violence. my thoughts are legalise all drugs BUT if the user's commit a crime under the influence of these drugs then when they go to court their sentance is automatically double that of someone 'clean' who committed the same crime, as a deterant.
wether or not its illegal, these drugs are already freely available in our community, my view is we have to manage the situation by incentives & deterants... mandatory tax levy for users to pre-pay health/medical expenses for the futue, non eligable for social security if mandatory weekly test is positive, increased pre-employment drug testing, increased premiums for insurance/rego, not eligable for drivers liscence, taking the profits away from manufacturers & dealers, just make it "not cool" and putting a financial sting on the users might be a way to combat it.
a blanket ban on it sure hasnt done anything positive except make the crims rich! abit like prohibition didnt stop ppl drinking only made the mob wealthy.
 
Yes I think you're on the right track Bandicoot.

I think tobacco provides the model.

Tobacco is a legal drug, but it's use is in decline, through strong public education campaigns, backed up with some govt regulation via smoke free areas.
 
Indeed K. I saw 'No Country For Old Men' the other night. All that murder and lawlessness for a case of white powder. Urgent policy change is required.
 
a blanket ban on it sure hasnt done anything positive except make the crims rich! abit like prohibition didnt stop ppl drinking only made the mob wealthy.
... and the decriminalisation experience in other countries has shown a decline in usage rates, whilst government revenue from usage soured, and police resources can be diverted to actual crime prevention & investigation.

It seems so obvious - unfortunately we seem beset by an era of political cowardice so we can't expect real change anytime soon.
 

This is the point that l was trying to make.
As bandicoot76 said,


+1


 
http://www.latimes.com/news/local/la-me-0617-lopez-drugs-20120617,0,7270973.column

Dead police officers.
Wheelchair-bound police officers.
Police officers shot in the face.

All to combat supply and demand?
 
Cant find the link, but last week one of Canada's highest health officials came out and tried to dispel some of the myths around ecstacy and pushed for legalisation of MDMA.

MDMA (which was originally the only active ingredient in ecstacy) is a very stable, pure chemical compound, and taken by itself in pure form, is virtually impossible to overdose on. There are no recorded fatalities from MDMA and every 'exstacy' death has been due to impure pills sold as ecstacy. If MDMA was available over the counter then one would assume no-one would die from tainted street ecstacy (even though the deaths are extremly low PA (less than 100 globally i think) anyway)
 
This will stir the pot...

Decriminalise cannabis, ecstasy to curb addiction: report

http://www.abc.net.au/news/2012-09-09/decriminalise-drugs-to-curb-addiction-report/4251256

16 is too young to be taking pills (or any form of drugs)!
 
Yet another kite flying exercise from academe. Governments won't have a bar of it. It would be political suicide.
 
Is it working with alcohol and cigarettes?

The dutch are having their own problems with people flocking over the border.
 
Great article

ABC - The Drum - Australia's pointless and deadly drugs crackdown




http://www.abc.net.au/unleashed/4249070.html
 
It will take even more time, but i remmeber a few years ago articles like this wouldn't have even had a chance in the mainstream media. People are slowly opening their eyes at least. Now we just need politicians to take notice to their constituents (cause they do that so well... )
 

As much as l would like to have some drugs legalised, it won't ever happen here in Australia (I hope l eat my words!)

 
I dont think it will be long before cigarettes go on the banning list the way its been going.

Did you see the imperial smoking company put the -- its whats on the inside that counts --- on their plain label packaging?
They will try every measure to get it through to their customers, was a good marketing ploy -- got them lots of advertising.

There is more than enough information out there regarding drugs, we dont need to legalise -- Mental Health is full -- my opinion.
 
Uruguay takes ‘war on drugs’ in new direction: state monopoly over the production and distribution of marijuana

http://www.rawstory.com/rs/2012/09/20/uruguay-takes-war-on-drugs-in-new-direction-state-monopoly-over-the-production-and-distribution-of-marijuana/
 
Might as well legalise them all and let people make their own decisions no matter how stupid..


1rd post

hi guise!
 
Due to the underground drugs market and drug wars going on in South America, the Uruguay Government is trying to control/regulate the pot market, get some money out of it (tax on sales I guess) and stop the flow of money to the drug gangs. Oh, and they don't give a rats what the US thinks.



http://www.npr.org/2012/10/02/162092271/uruguays-drugs-policy-regulating-market-for-pot
 
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