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We don't have to, they are well on teir way to doing it themselves.
Mick
Landslide for Trudeau in Canada: Implications for Oz?
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Hopefully he is smarter than the last bloke, Trump could do with some intelligent pushback, rather than knee jerk reactions and sobbing.
Trump has caused the disruption required, that has made countries to get of their butts and have a serious think about how they will support their economies, other than printing money and promising other countries they are ok to cover the debt.
Maybe when the shock and horror has settled, some useful ideas will come to the fore, as to how western countries can become productive again.
As we say time will tell, but the way the West was going wasn't going to end well, maybe this wont. But at least it is a change from the slow slide into the pit, that has been happening for the last 50 years.
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Looks like good things are already happening, the insipid has moved over and a new leader has stepped in.
Plus it doesn't sound like someone of the same ilk, it sounds like there is something behind the shopfront, with this choice.
Exactly what the West needs.
It took a trade war and the threat of Canada’s annexation for Mark Carney – once seen as just a steady steward of national finances – to come out of his shell
Plus it doesn't sound like someone of the same ilk, it sounds like there is something behind the shopfront, with this choice.
Exactly what the West needs.
New Trump-baiting world leader vows not to ‘bow down to a bully’
It took a trade war and the threat of Canada’s annexation for Mark Carney – once seen as just a steady steward of national finances – to come out of his shell
Most of us like Australia and Australians until we lose the bledisloe cup. Then we're crying for days.
Majority of kiwis over here know how good they have it.
Try it and your scaffolding industry is destroyed overnight.
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with a fondness for fiscal discipline and a distaste for political showmanship.
Huh? in the same article he produces nothing but political showmanship. He had a history of getting involved in politics as a bank of England governor which he shouldn't have been. Laughable. He will do and say anything to get elected - then once elected will continue the exact same policies of Trudeau - which were his policies to begin with
- “When you think about what’s at stake in these ridiculous, insulting comments of the president, of what we could be, I view this as the sort of Voldemort of comment.”
- “In the trade war – just like in hockey – we will win,”
- “We won’t levy tariffs on all your goods as retribution for your not going out with us. We respect your boundaries.”
- "are always ready when someone else drops the gloves."
- "Pierre Poilievre’s plan will leave us divided and ready to be conquered."
Whoever bashes America and Trump the most will win the soon to be called Canadian election - which will be Carney. I'd bet two thirds of Canadians above the age of 14 would volunteer to be euthanised if they were told it would get Trump removed from office a week early.
Anti-Americanism | The Canada Guide
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Canada and the United States of America are possibly the world’s two most similar countries....Yet sharing so much in common with a country as powerful and controversial as the United States can also breed contempt and insecurity, and Canadians spend a lot of time trying to come up with reasons why they are not like Americans. Or, just as often, why Americans are worse.
Judging, teasing and even hating America is a central part of the Canadian identity, and forms a persistant bias that runs through most aspects of Canadian society and culture. For various reasons, the default position of a great many Canadians is that America, Americans, and American things are generally bad, and need to be opposed. These feelings are not always logical and consistent, and are often hypocritical in practice.
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And there's me hoping for change, sounds like I may be sadly disappointed.with a fondness for fiscal discipline and a distaste for political showmanship.
Huh? in the same article he produces nothing but political showmanship. He had a history of getting involved in politics as a bank of England governor which he shouldn't have been. Laughable. He will do and say anything to get elected - then once elected will continue the exact same policies of Trudeau - which were his policies to begin with
Sounds like a whole lot of showmanship and rhetoric to me.
- “When you think about what’s at stake in these ridiculous, insulting comments of the president, of what we could be, I view this as the sort of Voldemort of comment.”
- “In the trade war – just like in hockey – we will win,”
- “We won’t levy tariffs on all your goods as retribution for your not going out with us. We respect your boundaries.”
- "are always ready when someone else drops the gloves."
- "Pierre Poilievre’s plan will leave us divided and ready to be conquered."
Whoever bashes America and Trump the most will win the soon to be called Canadian election - which will be Carney. I'd bet two thirds of Canadians above the age of 14 would volunteer to be euthanised if they were told it would get Trump removed from office a week early.
Anti-Americanism | The Canada Guide
Canada and the United States of America are possibly the world’s two most similar countries....Yet sharing so much in common with a country as powerful and controversial as the United States can also breed contempt and insecurity, and Canadians spend a lot of time trying to come up with reasons why they are not like Americans. Or, just as often, why Americans are worse.
Judging, teasing and even hating America is a central part of the Canadian identity, and forms a persistant bias that runs through most aspects of Canadian society and culture. For various reasons, the default position of a great many Canadians is that America, Americans, and American things are generally bad, and need to be opposed. These feelings are not always logical and consistent, and are often hypocritical in practice.
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Canadians are naive AF.
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Carney has had a very successful career in Canada and the UK. Not another politician lawyer type. He will be a formidable opponent.
From Sky News
“Carney has taken the bait here. He’s detected a crack – he's not a real politician, and Canadians are sick of real politicians.
“It looks like he can deal with Trump.”
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From Sky News
“Carney has taken the bait here. He’s detected a crack – he's not a real politician, and Canadians are sick of real politicians.
“It looks like he can deal with Trump.”
Mark Carney: Canada's answer to Trump's trade war
Canada’s next prime minister steps into the role with no prior political experience but a distinguished career in global finance.
www.abc.net.au
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Ontario, fresh from slapping a 25% surcharge to Electricity exported to the Northern Staes of USA, has suddenly done a volte-face after Trump smacked a further 25% tariff on Canadian Steel and Aluminium.
The stupidity of it all is that these Northern states get about 1% of their electricity from Canda, and Ontario provides less than half of that measly total.
A futile peutulant 'that'l show em" display that was only ever going to end badly.
The sort of thing that most western governments are heavily into these days, virtue signalling tokenistic gestures.
Trump may be all the evil things that everyone accuses him of, but he knows when in a position of strength, you dictate the terms of negotiation.
If he is still capable of having sex, I bet he "negotiates" with whomever it is at the time so he gets the best outcome.
Mick
The stupidity of it all is that these Northern states get about 1% of their electricity from Canda, and Ontario provides less than half of that measly total.
A futile peutulant 'that'l show em" display that was only ever going to end badly.
The sort of thing that most western governments are heavily into these days, virtue signalling tokenistic gestures.
Trump may be all the evil things that everyone accuses him of, but he knows when in a position of strength, you dictate the terms of negotiation.
If he is still capable of having sex, I bet he "negotiates" with whomever it is at the time so he gets the best outcome.
Mick
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Thinking too small Mick. he is going to economically coerce them. It will take a couple of years.
From today:
Mr Trump also told followers on his social media platform Truth Social: "The only thing that makes sense is for Canada to become our cherished Fifty First State."
From today:
Mr Trump also told followers on his social media platform Truth Social: "The only thing that makes sense is for Canada to become our cherished Fifty First State."
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I still don't understand why so many people take Trumps every uttering seriously.
He constantly throws people off track with these wild ideas (e.g. turning Gaza into a new Palm Springs Resort, or making Canada the 51st US state)) to distract people while he works on what he really wants.
its like giving them bread and circuses.
The ideas are so stupid and so out there, but all of a sudden people are outraged, they also do and say stupid things, and a sense of chaos ensures.
Trump obviously loves Chaos, he seems to thrive on it.
I am still unsure as to how much of this is planned and how much is an accident.
I have seen polls showing how much people in Canada or Europe, or even Australia either outright hate Trump or at best highly disapprove of him and his tactics.
None of this matters, none of them will ever get to vote for him, and he never entered to win a Beauty contest with those outside of his own country.
He despises the globalism that has taken root in the power elites, and is doing his best to crush them.
Nick
I'd disagree with parts of that article.Carney has had a very successful career in Canada and the UK. Not another politician lawyer type. He will be a formidable opponent.
From Sky News
“Carney has taken the bait here. He’s detected a crack – he's not a real politician, and Canadians are sick of real politicians.
“It looks like he can deal with Trump.”
Mark Carney: Canada's answer to Trump's trade war
Canada’s next prime minister steps into the role with no prior political experience but a distinguished career in global finance.
He was overly pessimistic of Brexit, low interest rate policy created bubbles, super unreliable forward guidance, was too political for a central bank figure, productivity and squeezed the living standards.
Generally just being a Canadian.
I don't think he will do well as pm. But then again people thought Trudeau was good.
