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Poll in today's SMH;
Poll: Are you more likely to support a carbon tax now petrol is excluded?
Yes
32%
No
68%
Total votes: 3352.Poll closes in 18 hours.
Read more: http://www.smh.com.au/opinion/polit...s-is-coming-20110703-1gxcs.html#ixzz1R7I5EYD6
After months of negotiations and a drip-feed of selected information the Federal Government will finally reveal the full details of its carbon tax and trading scheme this Sunday.
It says while some parts are still to be worked out, enough progress has been made in the negotiations with the Greens and independents to seal the deal this week.
The Opposition says if that's the case the Government should be releasing the information in the next few days before Parliament rises for a five week break.
IMO, that is a ridiculous poll question because one cannot draw any conclusions of value from the result.
Disclaimer: These polls are not scientific and reflect the opinion only of visitors who have chosen to participate.
Exactly. Hence the disclaimer;
Note the word "visitors". Most of the SMH readership are rusted on lefties, and as such, would blindly follow Gillard.
Who cares, Belle?Calliope, in addition to the disclaimer and that it was only open to visitors, I would argue that the poll had little value due to the nature of the question itself.
Mr Windsor was pivotal in having fuel excluded from the carbon price, but he has revealed he unsuccessfully argued to have a fuel levy for city-dwellers.
I know it's not generally liked to post links to other forums, but I do think this is very worthwhile reading for anyone with an interest in this subject.
In short, China's going to burn literally the lot, and they're going to do it sooner than you probably think. A lot of figures here, and it seems very reasonable.
http://peakoil.com/production/chinas-imminent-collision-with-peak-coal/
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Cheers Smurf. I always assumed that as we have a few hundred years of coal reserves left peak coal at least was a ways off, but peak coal in 2027 and peak global energy in the mid 2030's is pretty sobering. That means peak global GDP in the mid 2030's unless something drastically changes between now and then.I know it's not generally liked to post links to other forums, but I do think this is very worthwhile reading for anyone with an interest in this subject.
In short, China's going to burn literally the lot, and they're going to do it sooner than you probably think. A lot of figures here, and it seems very reasonable.
http://peakoil.com/production/chinas-imminent-collision-with-peak-coal/
Meanwhile, you can keep track of your state's CO2 intensity for power generation here. http://www.aemo.com.au/electricityops/cdeii.html
Also China's share will increase, as countries like Australia export energy demanding industries, and there are the additional energy costs of return freighting manufactured goods...In short, China's going to burn literally the lot, and they're going to do it sooner than you probably think. A lot of figures here, and it seems very reasonable..http://peakoil.com/production/chinas-imminent-collision-with-peak-coal/..
Gillard now gets the TWU offside, there were angry calls from hard-core labor voting truckies to Paul Murray's morning show yesterday, vowing not to vote labor again and threatening 'go-slow' campaigns.
Expect damaging recourse from the TWU!
We all know Australia depends on trucks, and an extra cost on heavy transport is an extra cost on EVERYTHING. That should bode well for inflation.
http://www.qbr.com.au/news/articleid/74580.aspx
http://www.dailytelegraph.com.au/ne...ppose-carbon-tax/story-e6freuy9-1226088387890
Not to mention they could have hostile Senators, Glenn Sterle and Alex Gallacher, on their hands.
http://www.perthnow.com.au/news/top...-corner-truckies/story-e6frg12l-1226088591511
And don't forget the 10% of all carbon dioxide tax collections will go to the UN Climate Change Committee of which Rudd is a member. I wonder if this will be mentioned in Gillards speech on Sunday morning. Labor never ever mentions this.
SENATOR BOB BROWN: Well, it is the way to go. The Greens have recently rescued the proposals for base load solar power stations, which will go in rural and regional Australia to make sure they are progressing.... We want this country to be at the cutting edge. I repeat, the example is firm and true. In Germany, where they did this because the Greens were in the balance of power, they have created 350,000 jobs. It was the strongest component of the German economy during the recent recession. It’s good economics.
I know it's not generally liked to post links to other forums, but I do think this is very worthwhile reading for anyone with an interest in this subject.
In short, China's going to burn literally the lot, and they're going to do it sooner than you probably think. A lot of figures here, and it seems very reasonable.
http://peakoil.com/production/chinas-imminent-collision-with-peak-coal/
Meanwhile, you can keep track of your state's CO2 intensity for power generation here. http://www.aemo.com.au/electricityops/cdeii.html
My main reason for posting that link can be explained by this analogy.Geez that's scary.
Treasury modelling reportedly predicts strong growth for the coal industry despite introduction of the tax.
Under an indicative $20 carbon price, coal exports and production - although lower than without a tax - would still double during the next 40 years, Fairfax said of the yet-to-be-made-public modelling.
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