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Hi,

Recent artilce on rhenium industry from Mineweb.net

http://www.mineweb.net/mineweb/view/mineweb/en/page504?oid=23676&sn=Detail

Demand for rhenium at breaking point
Demand for rhenium is growing fast as environmentally friendly aeroplanes become more popular. Some traders believe the rhenium price will reach $10,000 per kg in the coming months as the global deficit worsens.

Author: Pratima Desai
Posted: Thursday , 19 Jul 2007

LONDON (Reuters Life!) -

Very few people have even heard of rhenium, but the rare metal with an ultra-high melting point is becoming a vital part of the aerospace industry and one of the most expensive commodities in the world.

Rising demand for faster and more environmentally friendly aeroplanes has meant demand for rhenium, which helps engines reach higher temperatures and consume less fuel, is rapidly outstripping supply and producing a global deficit.

This deficit is very unlikely to be reversed and rhenium prices, which have surged 700 percent to around $8,000 per kg in just 18 months, will stay sky high.

"In aero engines, rhenium is only a tiny constituent, but it is an essential one," said Anthony Lipmann owner of trading company Lipmann Walton.

"If you can raise the temperature it means you burn fuel more efficiently, save money and reduce the emissions in the atmosphere."

The metal -- discovered more than 80 years ago -- has been a boon to those seeking to reduce carbon emissions from energy use and demand has jumped.

Prices started to climb in 2005 when the deficit started to grow as demand from aero engine makers accelerated.

Some traders think prices will hit $10,000 a kg in the coming months.

SUPERALLOYS

Rhenium came to attention as early as the 1980s when engine makers discovered that nickel-base alloys containing 3 to 6 percent rhenium were able to withstand more heat and so they designed aero engine to improve performance.

Major users include aero engine makers such as UK's Rolls Royce and U.S.-based General Electric and Pratt Whitney, a division of United Technologies.

Rapid expansion in the airline industry and higher spending on military aircraft in the United States could widen the deficit and fuel further price rises over coming years.

The civil aircraft sector expects orders for more than 20,000 aeroplanes over the next 20 years, while the U.S. Joint Strike Fighter project is expected to involve more than 3,000 aircraft.

Rhenium has the second highest melting point -- 3,186 degrees Celsius -- of any metal after tungsten, allowing alloys to endure temperatures of up to 1,500 Celsius.

The metal's use in aeroplane engines and land based power turbines has grown along with the need to cut carbon emissions and cut costs as jet fuel prices have surged by around 300 percent since early 2002 to around $730 a tonne.

"Nickel-base superalloys for the aerospace and industrial gas turbine are the largest market for rhenium metal, accounting for about 60 percent of world demand for the metal," said Steven Munnoch, managing director at recycler and refiner Avon Metals.

Demand for rhenium last year was estimated at between 60 and 69 tonnes against supplies of between 58 and 64 tonnes. Supplies included 15 tonnes of stockpile from one of the world's top producers, Kazakhstan.

SILVERY WHITE

"Supply of rhenium is very much limited and I would expect there to continue to be a supply deficit as it will be difficult to significantly increase production," said Niel Cahill, deputy head of sales and logistics at copper miner Kazakhmys.

The deficit last year on the surface looks quite low at around five tonnes, but it was probably larger as the Kazakhstan stockpile was sold to a merchant in the United States, who appears to have rationed sales, traders said.

If that stockpile no longer exists then the deficit this year will be at least 20 tonnes, possibly more.

Rhenium is not mined for itself, but is normally recovered as a byproduct of molybdenum sulphide concentrate after it has been separated from copper. Most is sold on long-term contracts.

The largest producer is Chile, which is also the world's largest copper producer. Other producers include the United States, China, Russia, Poland, Armenia and Uzbekistan.

The silvery white metal is also used in refinery catalysts to make lead free gasoline.

This application in the early 1980s helped push prices to above $3,300 a kg, but prices slipped as Russia sold off its stock of the metal.

"Rhenium's use as a catalyst is as important now as it was in the 1970s," Lipmann said.

New demand for rhenium is likely to come from technology that converts gas to liquid. Analysts say billions of cubic feet of gas in Africa, Russia, Asia and the Middle East are lost annually because there is no economic way to transport it.
 
Demand for rhenium at breaking point

Demand for rhenium is growing fast as environmentally friendly aeroplanes become more popular. Some traders believe the rhenium price will reach $10,000 per kg in the coming months as the global deficit worsens.
Thanks Big Johnny. (I assume you can back that name up)

I was disappointed in the quartely that they didn't give guidance on an initial JORC for Kalman. I was told by the MD it would be Sep, but with this rhenium analysis and further testing it might blow out so they can get it into the JORC. Should be a very interesting JORC with Mo, Cu, Au, U3O8, Rh all in decent qualtities included in the estimate. Pretty unique and a true polymetallic deposit. I think this project is still relatively flying under the radar, (as seen by the number of posters on this on chat sites :rolleyes: ).

Interesting they're ramping the rhenium aspect of the deposit now. Is it really that good, or are they diverting attention from poor drilling to come perhaps. I'm ever the skeptic!

Here are the points from the ann on rhenium and those values found in K23. Pretty deep! Hopefully shallower drilling picks it up closer to surface! Also, note that they're forecasting quite a number of releases this month in regard to Kalman and rhenium.
 

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I had one that went up yesterday!! Whooohooo! LOL. How sad :(

KMN actually went up 2% for whatever reason. Wasn't just an EOD swing on light vol either which is positive. Still trending sideways and drifting slightly lower by the look of this. 85-90 looks like good support though. Was concerned on the dip below 90 on Monday...but it showed some grit.

Even though I have a long term view on this, I'll ditch it if support is broken, and wait till the dust settles to re-enter.
 

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MD is on a roadshow now and I just picked this off the presentation. I'm not sure how they come to these figures because I have not seen any drilling results from Mt Philip, but this puts another string in the bow. How do they say 50-60% fe when there's no drill results? From previous surface samples? :confused:
 

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MD is on a roadshow now and I just picked this off the presentation. I'm not sure how they come to these figures because I have not seen any drilling results from Mt Philip, but this puts another string in the bow. How do they say 50-60% fe when there's no drill results? From previous surface samples? :confused:

Hey Kenna,

Not sure how they have come up with those grades, but its important to distinguish between +55%Fe ore and Sub 55%Fe Ore as I think 54%-55%Fe is the lower cut off for DSO Haemetite Operations

Anyway if its 4km long 100m wide and 100m deep that gives 4,000x100x100 = 40m Assuming a density factor of 3 = 120Mt's now they say 50%-60%

So a very rough possible target size is 120Mt's @50%-60%Fe

But I must stress the 54%Fe-55%Fe cut off factor, so its important to know how much is above this, also without drill intercepts etc this is just pure speculation, but at least it gives you an idea fo the upside :)
 
According to Dudley - density is between 2.4 - and 2.7 tonnes per cubic metre for Kalman............
I think YTs numbers are in relation to Mt Philp haematite. Did he mention that?

So, Kalman: 1000 x 400 x 150 x 2.55 = 153 Mt. At about 2.5% Cu equiv perhaps? :eek:

Got any other numbers but those? I've just guestimated them off the strike from the map, and a broad average of the drilling grades. I'll be happy with half that for an initial JORC. Did he give a time frame for release?
 
Scoping study update on CDG. Poor timing. :(

Not sure if Mr Market liked it anyway, and I'm wondering whether mining 1 g/t au equiv is reasonable or not?

Thoughts?
 

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The leaching technology they have at the moment mining 1.0 gram / tonne is not an issue at all. Would have loved to been that person who picked up a parcel at 56 cents today. I think there is more carnage to come...
 
I think YTs numbers are in relation to Mt Philp haematite. Did he mention that?

So, Kalman: 1000 x 400 x 150 x 2.55 = 153 Mt. At about 2.5% Cu equiv perhaps? :eek:

Got any other numbers but those? I've just guestimated them off the strike from the map, and a broad average of the drilling grades. I'll be happy with half that for an initial JORC. Did he give a time frame for release?
Kings has been decimated during the correction, along with other developers/explorers I suppose. If I had have had my trading hat on with this I would have saved a few Soles on paper. Instead, I've bought more. :( I'm going to lose a ton on this. :p: LOL.

I've been trying to anticipate a value for Kalman on the likely JORC they bring out early next year. (They're being a bit tardy if you ask me)

They're claiming in situ value per tonne at Kalman of $1251. I have no idea how much of the current strike they are going to JORC, so I'll assume three lengths of strike; 300m, 600m and 1km using depth at 400m and width 150m. If anyone thinks these are too generous, sing out.

300 x 400 x 150 x 2.55 = 45.9 Mt x $1251 = $57,420,900,000
600 x 400 x 150 x 2.55 = 91.8 Mt x $1251 = $114,841,800,000
1000 x 400 x 150 x 2.55 = 153 Mt x $1251 = $191,403,000,000

The deposit is still open along strike and depth. :eek:

This can't be right. I must have the dimensions of the strike incorrect. Perhaps the grades they are using here are generous for the overall deposit?

Can someone check that for me? Might have to be you, Joooles, LOL. Cheers.
 

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Hey Kenna,

Not sure how they have come up with those grades, but its important to distinguish between +55%Fe ore and Sub 55%Fe Ore as I think 54%-55%Fe is the lower cut off for DSO Haemetite Operations

Anyway if its 4km long 100m wide and 100m deep that gives 4,000x100x100 = 40m Assuming a density factor of 3 = 120Mt's now they say 50%-60%

So a very rough possible target size is 120Mt's @50%-60%Fe

But I must stress the 54%Fe-55%Fe cut off factor, so its important to know how much is above this, also without drill intercepts etc this is just pure speculation, but at least it gives you an idea fo the upside :)

Hi Kennas,

The HUGE RISK here is that they quote the grades as being 50%-60%Fe and Like I have said 54% Fe is really the cut off for Heamatite Operations so if its below this cut-off the ore is not that valuable, its like having a Copper deposit grading 0.75%-1.5%Cu, clearly being at 1.5% makes a huge difference as sub 1% is uneconomic save for huge operations

Cheers
 
August 13, 2007

Kings Minerals Is The Latest Sprinter From The Seckold/Leitch Stable


The best stories do not necessarily start at the beginning, so let’s simply go back to last summer when the ASX listed company, Kings Minerals , announced that it had entered into a joint venture over the Pelican property near Cloncurry in Queensland on what is known as the Mount Isa Outlier. This added to its existing Kalman project to give it a tenement position amounting to 1,474 sq kms which covered around 40 kms of strike length of the highly prospective Pilgrims Fault. Not a lot of attention was paid to this at the time as those in the know were watching Bolnisi Gold and Palmarejo Silver & Gold, two other companies in the Norm Seckold /Dudley Leitch stable, following rumours that they might be takeover targets.
Bolnisi was Norm’s original baby and it had a hard life in Georgia until one day light dawned and he took it off to Mexico where it acquired the Palmarejo gold-silver project in the Temoris district of Chihuahua, Mexico. By September 2004 he was claiming that the Mexican project was a company maker and it is not hard to see why. An intercept of 15.3 metres had just been announced which graded 19.6 g/t gold and 943 g/t silver. This hole was unable to penetrate the mineralised structure completely due to zero water circulation and broken quartz, but the last half metre of this hole assayed 113 g/t gold and 5,810 g/t silver. Even more significant a 0.75 metre intercept in the bigger sample graded 233 g/t gold and went off the scale of the assay method used at more than 10,000 g/t silver. This hole intercepted the structure 50 metres down dip and 40 metres along strike from a previous hole which returned 27.5 metres at 16.3 g/t gold and 1,247 g/t silver.

If that project had been in Australia the Bolnisi share price would also have gone off the scale, but it didn’t. In fact it hardly moved at all so the thought germinated in Norm’s mind that it might be wise to spin –off the Mexican interests. No sooner said than done and a reverse was organised into a small Canadian shell. North Americans fell in love with it very quickly as Mexico is on their doorstep and earlier this year the mid-tier producer Coeur d’Alene mines made a successful offer for both Bolnisi and Palmarejo. At the time the Canadian company described Bolnisi’s activities as all being Mexican precious metals operations with an existing portfolio of projects, which include the Palmarejo silver-gold project (including Trogan), Chihuahua; the Yecora gold-silver project, Sonora; and the El Realito gold-silver project, Chihuahua. The Georgian activities had gone, but Norm’s prediction had been proved right as the stake it retained in Palmarejo Silver & Gold Corporation was certainly a company maker.

Back to last July when Kings Minerals announced that it was proposing a reverse takeover of another Canadian company, Andaurex Industries. The prize was a 51 per cent interest held by Kings Minerals in the San Anton silver project in Guanajuato, Mexico which Dudley Leitch, who had been working in that country since 1992, had acquired a year or two earlier from the well known Canadian gold producer Goldcorp. By this time brighter readers should be shuffling in their seats and muttering “Haven’t we heard this story somewhere before?” Dead right. It looks like a dead ringer for Bolnisi/Palmarejo and if it pans out there must be money to be made.

Australian investors will still have their eyes on the tenements north of Mary Kathleen, and well they might. The recent drilling results from the Kalman project were very promising with intervals of 329 metres grading 0.23% MoS2 (molybdenite), 0.46% copper, 0.22g/t gold and 0.01% uranium. Another 73 metre interval assayed 0.43% molybdenite, 0.22% copper, 0.13g/t gold and 0.09% uranium . The mineralization is open along strike in both directions and at depth and Kings Minerals has identified many more immediate targets from geological and geophysical surveys. Add to this the fact that rhenium is also on the menu and if it is added to the value of a tonne of rock using average grades for copper and molybdenum it is almost doubled to A$351/tonne.

This value will be firmed up when more results are announced over the coming weeks which will include re-assaying for rhenium. Meanwhile Kings Minerals has developed a resource of 10.19 million ounces of gold equivalent at San Anton, with some US$15 million being spent on the area to date. Last month results were announced from an additional eight holes drilled at the Empalizada prospect which is 1.8kms west of the Cerro del Gallo gold-silver-copper deposit on the San Anton project. The best intersection was 4.6 metres averaging 428 g/t silver and 3.5 g/t gold and a vein system was confirmed more than 100 metres in width.

Norm Seckold is starting to make statements such as “we expect to develop a very large mine at San Anton over the coming years” Not a million miles from what he said about Palmarejo nearly three years ago. And it should be no great surprise as the silver-gold grades intersected at Empalizada are typical of the Guanajuato district which has recorded production of 1.1 billion ounces of silver and 6.5 million ounces of gold from epithermal veins. Maybe he is even in line to develop two new mines of Kalman keeps coming.

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This value will be firmed up when more results are announced over the coming weeks which will include re-assaying for rhenium.
Assays have been dragging the past few weeks. Probably a good thing considering the market.

I'd expect a capital raising shortly too. Expect it on the back of an ann and hopefully it's done at a good price, or they allow retail to get in at a discount.
 
Assays have been dragging the past few weeks. Probably a good thing considering the market.

I'd expect a capital raising shortly too. Expect it on the back of an ann and hopefully it's done at a good price, or they allow retail to get in at a discount.
Good ann out...now the cap raising??

Further good drill results extending Kalman to 700m depth, and still open below and along strike. Significantly, they may have identified a fault which has shifted the strike to the north out to the east potentially extending the deposit by 1500m or so.

If this deposit goes out to 2000x200x700 + with these grades, then it might have a future. :)

Add to that POG breaking up with SdG to come into production in the coming 2 years and it's looking prospective.

SP still struggling though. :(
 

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If this deposit goes out to 2000x200x700 + with these grades, then it might have a future. :)
Actually, the deposit already is 1000m, so if you add the 1500m to it and use my previous width of 150m and the new depth of 700m it gives us:

2500 x 150 x 700 x 2.5 = 656,250,000 tns.

It's still open at depth and along strike.

Any thoughts on these figures? Any disputes? Am I being too generous?

Is this a ramp? :) LOL.
 
Well, finally an ann with some results but it's mostly just 'assays pending' - once again. :banghead:

They do claim visible Mo and Cu in just about everything (even their stool samples) but who cares? Get the damn results out!!!

In regard to Re, I have a dreaded feeling this is going to be a white elephant.....hope my bad intuition is wrong. Latest ann - no mention of Re.

One very annoying thing is that I have contacted the company via email several times the past year to seek additional information, or clarrification of an ann, but have received NO feedback. No even a 'sorry, you are insignificant, please don't bother us busy people' response.....:mad:

Now, having said that, in relation to Kalman, what the heck is going on with the sp of KMN compared to it's San Anton project (35% ish of 11.09m oz au). By my calcs, just on San Anton, they have a market cap to oz au equiv of $67. This is thereabouts for a gold developer. (ave seems to be between $50-80) San Anton is going into the final stages to BFS and producing within maybe 18 months.....

This means that Kalman is not factored in to it's current market cap at all.

On to the chart, after what must have been a positive announcement, they've made another higher low! Whooohoo! LOL

Breaking through the resistance around the green circles, red downward and horizontal resistance lines will provide some confidence that the market thinks this is a goer. I'll be looking again around the blue circles.....

Still some work to do to be trending up again....
 

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Hey Kennas,
Have been reading your posts on this stock for over a year now and have appreciated some of your insights. I have held this stock since it was 8c and seen many ups and downs over its journey. "All we need is just a little patience". Perhaps the company is not responding to you because you have become a serial pest, let them run the company and you can play with your charts:p: Dont forget San Anton is a monster deposit. Cheers.
 
These are due from Kalman:

21 Sep ann:

Six drill core samples are nearing completion of mineral liberation analysis at JKtech with a report due next week.

8 Oct ann:

The Company expects to be able to present results of re-assaying of some pulps for the rare metal Rhenium in the next few days, followed by a synopsis of metallurgical investigations undertaken by JK Tech once validated.

Due I say! :cautious:

Due!

Plus a whole pile of assays awaited from Pelican, which by their lastest ann and drilling map, is actually Kalman...:confused:
 
Can anyone explain this anomaly:

BSG - Gold Silver developer set for production later this year or early next
Owns 75% of the Palmarejo Project in Mexico
3.1m oz au equiv in 2 deposits, high grades from surface
75% of 3.1m = 2.35m oz au equiv
Has some prospective exploration targets
285m shares on issue @ $2.83 = $806m
Plus $50m in cash
Market cap to oz au = $262

KMN - Cu/Au/Ag developer just completed PFS
Owns 72% of TSX listed SNN which owns 51% of San Anton Project in Mexico
(Goldcorp holds 49%) - So, they effectively own 35% of the project.
11.09m oz au equiv, grades ok, open pittable
35% of project = 3.88m oz au equiv
Has numerous other potential Au/Ag targets at San Anton
Also has Kalman in Mt Isa shaping to be a very large Cu/Mo/Au/Rh/U project
380m shares @ $0.66 = $250m
Hardly any cash left.
MC to oz au = $65

:confused:


Is the discount to BSG just because of stages of development?
 
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