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KAR - Karoon Energy

Just put my thoughts down quickly

540 wells for Fairview - seems very light. What is STO's requirement for one train? BG's requirement is 550TJ/day. So each STO well would have to do a TJ a day. I think they would be wanting closer to 700 wells on line.

Tax - rest assured that the QLD govt will ensure it gets a big slice. Remember what they did to coal? "Oh, we've got a $2B hole... I know we'll raise royalty on coal from 7% to 10%".

That said, the resource is owned by the State, so the Commonwealth will not be able to touch it.

I'm sure the analysts did their numbers thoroughly but as i understand under the PRRT exploration costs are deductible - it is a net back method. State royalties on the other hand are far more specific and many expenses are not deductible.

Ramp Up - Two years for fairview! And what are they going to do with all the water. STO, ORG and BG will all be looking to put their water somewhere. It won't evaporate, RO is very very expensive and the Govts are worried about salinity. Further to this, where the hell is all the gas going to go in the ramp up phase? And like i have said before, they are not sure that they can shut the wells in without losing pressure and another dewatering phase. On the other hand, there is a theory of shutting the wells in on a rotational basis. This would involve rotating through a pod of three or four. To shut them in remotely adds $30K to the cost of each well - 30M over 1,000 wells.

Footprint - How huge is the footprint of CSG?! Imagine thousands of wells in SE Qld each spread 1km apart with gathering system networks and trunklines. Compare this to the footprint of eight wells in govt waters to having to deal with land holders? I would love to see a 2013 gathering system "x-ray" of SE QLD!

Summary - I am know expert, but CSG to LNG has many challenges whereas conventional to LNG is tried, tested and proven. Like i said, where there is a will, there is a way and the prices being paid for the likes of PES show the extent of the will.
 
Great post Dangerous, but it went right over my head!

Have included a KAR chart. Break down from here would not be pretty.
 

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I'm a complete nub, but is that a double-top with a bearish divergence on the RSI?

Any TA gods out there?

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Great post Dangerous, but it went right over my head!

Sinner, post was in response to Grace's comments which might help make sense.

Yeah, there is no way i would be buying Karoon. Only an explorer spending money... Long way to go for these guys you would think, unless they have some exceptional early drilling results...
 
I really should be out of these guys as it has broken all my rules and formed what looks like a pretty ugly double top but my parcel is pretty small so not too concerned and like them as a "punt".

Credit Suisse has them as a "buy" with eye to $6 if they do ok, eye to $1.50 if they don't perform.

http://www.karoongas.com.au/Portals/0/PDF_Documents/News/2009/Credit Suisse 09 Feb 2009.pdf

Naughty naughty breaking through all the pretty lines, then it comes up with a perfect Dragonfly Doji.

From
http://stockcharts.com/school/doku.php?id=chart_school:chart_analysis:candlestick_pattern

Check out todays candle on the daily. Joining the SP200 means they will benefit and hurt from the market sentiment more.
 

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Dangerous, where are you......are you all over this move? Only a few more days to go up, and I might win Aprils stock comp.:) It has broken all time highs today though, so I won't hold my breath.

Nice move today with the sell column pretty well gone. Can it keep going? Anyone got any comments on the hydrocarbon hit? I'm more of a coal seam gas girl so I need a little help here......
 

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Hi Grace,

Thanks for posting that article on CSG vs LNG - very interesting.

Glad you stuck with your KAR, as I did. Even though I bought at $2.40, I am in for the mid to long term on this one and will not be taking any profits today.

There was some big buying from serious money, near the close yesterday. It was an exciting few minutes.

Cheers,

Jigalong.
 
Trading Halt awaiting news on the drill results of Poseiden 1. Would this be the wire logging?? Was moving nicely prior to this...
 
Rumors of a problem with the drilling/testing equipment. Maybe some delays now in reporting the results.
 
The last posiedon adventure ran to $280 prior to collapsing so perhaps there is much more to play out here yet? Volume has remained very light the past cpl wks all things considered... looks like most are happy to hold out in confidence for now... interesting to watch this play out as big bucks involved.. gl to all..
 
Well, how on earth did those drillers get a tool stuck down the hole anyway?:D This is an enormous find - over 300 metres of gas. Now we have a delay while another drill goes down. It is lucky I am not holding..:)
Still like the prospects and will wait for a nice entry price as holders get bored waiting again.
Looks like I'm not going to win this months stock comp!;)
 
Well, that will teach me, was watching it on that bad day, and of course it hasn't had one since. Thought I would post a chart for comment as I'm not a tech head. Well, looks bullish now I would think. Perhaps will bust through all time highs.
 

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does anyone out there have any idea what this morning's trading halt has to do with? good or bad news?
 
does anyone out there have any idea what this morning's trading halt has to do with? good or bad news?

Just to let you know mate if you open up the ann and take a look at what the company faxes to the ASX you can almost always find the reason in there...

In this case it is the result of a cap raising...

Don't hold KAR but golly it's had a nice run!
 
Another great day for Karoon, but has anyone seen any news today to explain the double digit increase? I couldn't find any anouncement.
 
Transocean legend on its way to kontiki-1
Fingers crossed for another poseidon-1 size find!!!
I hear that the japanese can smell the gas already
 
Well, how on earth did those drillers get a tool stuck down the hole anyway?:D This is an enormous find - over 300 metres of gas. Now we have a delay while another drill goes down. It is lucky I am not holding..:)
Still like the prospects and will wait for a nice entry price as holders get bored waiting again.
Looks like I'm not going to win this months stock comp!;)

i'm no expert but its relatively easy to get a 'tool' stuck down a well. a tool is just a general term that relates all manner of devices, not just a spanner or a hammer say(and dropped down a well). if thats what you were actually thinking.

this puppy is interesting and his words on the others in the csg/csm market were worth listening too as well.
 
i'm no expert but its relatively easy to get a 'tool' stuck down a well. a tool is just a general term that relates all manner of devices, not just a spanner or a hammer say(and dropped down a well). if thats what you were actually thinking.

this puppy is interesting and his words on the others in the csg/csm market were worth listening too as well.

I was just poking a bit of fun at those drillers.......how much do they get paid for those drills again!!!??? Yes, things do go wrong I'm sure. It was interesting listening to the CEO.:)
 
I watched the I/V on Inside Business - interesting, and now on my watchlist.

Seemed like a down to earth (no pun intended) guy.
Not your usual Pitt St toffee nose CEO type.

Up over 6% today, and I bet the positive exposure on Inside Business had something to do with that.
You have to wonder if Kohler buys into these companies a few days before I/Vs are aired?!!!
 
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