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Tee hee ...

Not one regret, word of remorse for what has occurred. It never happened. Jordans views-on Trump, support of the Trump agenda, its far right message, I have already covered.

For bigots and hate filled, hiding behind intellectual wankerism, is what is is. I provided his words, his tweet. The date, the context, and still your hate filled insult and non response speaks more of your lack of content than it does my own. Be ashamed. Own your hate, and acceptance and devoted following.

Its nice being told its gibberish, rather than being called a Nazi. I provided in Petersons own words his view, up close as a Canadian on the state of affairs in the USA. Not a word about that, his clear support for Trump and attack of anyone apparently questioning his rule.

Peterson, couched as the person does, claims first he has NO view on a topic or claims he in this case does not know enough then ... like with climate change ... this one ISAM and its faith, tears it to shreds.

My words verses your lack of comprehension, possibly stupidity, are irrelevant. It is HIS words. his message which is that its ok to do and say whatever the hell you like.

HE gave his views 3 weeks ago in Christchurch and here is a gem.

Why ISLAM is not a Religion of Peace. Explained by Jordan Peterson

 
kahuna1 said:
Jordans thoughts on the issue. Its somehow linked to universities or some other crap ? HATE fear and more hate and fear divides the USA right now.
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Interesting. I watched all the video and in the first 35 seconds he is making the valid observation that roughly 50% of the US people voted trump and that there IS NO EXECUSE for vilifying people from that category. The very thing you are ranting against.

Then follows a comment on the power elite in the Universities. Something that anyone who follows what is happening in debates in the US (and even here) where people are being prevented from speaking or worse still are losing their teaching jobs because they express views that are counter to what the LEFT regards as acceptable. Bettina Arnt (sp.) is a good and recent example of that here.

The rest of the post just gives his view of the robustness of debate in the US and the West in general.

It seems you are so consumed with hate for him that you have lost the power of rational analysis.

Regarding the other video of him liking the term Climate Denier to Holocaust Denier as a means of stifling debate. Yes he is wrong on that. No one claims he is infallible in every opinion he expresses. But that is just an opinion on a minor issue (asserting it has the same chilling effect). That hardly makes him a monster.
 
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kahuna1 said:
Why ISLAM is not a Religion of Peace. Explained by Jordan Peterson
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Watched that video in its entirety. There was a comment as to why western feminists seem to give a complete pass to the state sponsored subjugation of women in Islamic states and he made some irrational comment about those feminist desiring male domination. Silly comment that I wouldn't agree with but the question is still open: why are western feminists ignoring what is going on in Islamic states?

Apart from that the rest was quite factual. I can't see what your issue is unless you are completely unaware of Islam (as opposed to Muslims, do not conflate the terms).

Could you point something out that was not factual in relation to what he had to say about Islam?
 
Hmmm

his very clear line is that Christianity and Judaism is one of love, HIS VIEW. I prefer tolerance and LOVE, but calling our past, or Christians past anything other than awful is absurd. Yet again Peterson has historic amnesia and vilifies another race, creed or culture or sexual belief.

Some high points from Christianity past ?
The Crusades Crusades killed 1 million innocent civilian men, women and children (not in combat).
Heretics and Atheists another million
Witches a mere few thousand
Religious Wars Millions and high point of that was the Spanish inquisition .... 3 million or so in the 15th century followed by in the 1700's the 30 year war with ... mass slaughter in Germany and about 40% of all the population wiped out ...

Actions of Christians against Jewish people, then against Native People defies, even description.
If one is standing upon a pulpit as Jordan is in his declaration of anti Islam whilst touting the love of Christianity ...

Reverend Solomon Stoddard, one of New England's most esteemed religious leaders, in "1703 formally proposed to the Massachusetts Governor that the colonists be given the financial wherewithal to purchase and train large packs of dogs 'to hunt Indians as they do bears'."

He is from North America maybe they are related ?

I could talk about WW2 and the catholic church, or other things that occurred in various places.

Intolerance is what it is. Please don't try and tell me ANY religion that has survived for 1,000 years is based in HATE. None of them are, just intolerance and extremist views which if not called out for what they are, fester. Breed HATE ... breed fear. Peterson displayed sociopath nature, not even a word of condolence for those in Christchurch, his re-writing of well known history .... to make his actions and intolerance and HATE allowed and excused.
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Rwanda and its chopping up of 500,000- 800,000, with machetes is a very recent example of extreme intolerance and faith based involvement in this. INSIDE CHURCHES.

Love Not hate. I still am agog, not a word from any response on the tragedy that befell our fellow men and women and children. No comment ?

Maybe Jordan and his historical amnesia or dementia as one poster admitted to, is the go.

Have you never heard of the above events ? In a world with a population of less than 100 million, killing one million is big, 3 million is, very hard without modern travel. Christianity managed to do it, time and time and time again.

Yes we are saints !! Christians. All Jordan can manage to quote is protestants and that fight. Not even an impartial judge would rank it in the top 1,000 events post BC.

So so sad, I pray for you ... LOVE TRUMPS HATE. Intolerance and indifference, you say potato I say HATE couched in justification. I pray as a lapsed Catholic and closer to Lutheran in beliefs. Does that make me a target of more bile filled hate and name calling ?

Well done Jordan, rewriting a horrid history and past of intolerance. with your new vision.

I would ask what was actually FACTUAL verses fiction or extreme re-writing of history from Jordans perspective. He is what he is. Monster ? Or sadly ill ? Pick and choose !! Or put up and shut up, or as I said, stand up and say NO !!
 
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One of the best interviews of him when it comes to the core of his belief system (political). Clearly an exponent of the merits of free speech. At the 18:00 mark he goes into why the Left misunderstands him, which is both deliberate and a product of their categorisation of everybody into boxes. Around the 23:00 mark, he shows exactly why Universities are no longer the bastions of free speech, but have been taken over by the radical Left. He compares the Berkeley of the 60's with it today. At the 40:00 mark he discusses free speech and explains exactly why it is of core importance. At around 45:00 he talks about Islam and his desire to learn more. Makes extremely valid comments on whether all religions cannot simply be assumed to be compatible with our democratic ideals and though has an open mind regarding Islam, he justifiably points out that history (including present day history) is not on their side.

It is interesting that the interviewer Maajid Mawaz, a Muslim, is also of the opinion (not expressed in the video) that Islam is in bad need of reform and regards the term Islamaphobia as a weapon used by those who do not want change to stifle debate, something that is eagerly taken up by the radical Left as they can only see oppression as the product of white western civilisations.
 
kahuna1 said:
Hmmm

his very clear line is that Christianity and Judaism is one of love, HIS VIEW. I prefer tolerance and LOVE, but calling our past, or Christians past anything other than awful is absurd. Yet again Peterson has historic amnesia and vilifies another race, creed or culture or sexual belief.

Some high points from Christianity past ?
The Crusades Crusades killed 1 million innocent civilian men, women and children (not in combat).
Heretics and Atheists another million
Witches a mere few thousand
Religious Wars Millions and high point of that was the Spanish inquisition .... 3 million or so in the 15th century followed by in the 1700's the 30 year war with ... mass slaughter in Germany and about 40% of all the population wiped out ...

Actions of Christians against Jewish people, then against Native People defies, even description.
If one is standing upon a pulpit as Jordan is in his declaration of anti Islam whilst touting the love of Christianity ...

Reverend Solomon Stoddard, one of New England's most esteemed religious leaders, in "1703 formally proposed to the Massachusetts Governor that the colonists be given the financial wherewithal to purchase and train large packs of dogs 'to hunt Indians as they do bears'."

He is from North America maybe they are related ?

I could talk about WW2 and the catholic church, or other things that occurred in various places.

Intolerance is what it is. Please don't try and tell me ANY religion that has survived for 1,000 years is based in HATE. None of them are, just intolerance and extremist views which if not called out for what they are, fester. Breed HATE ... breed fear. Peterson displayed sociopath nature, not even a word of condolence for those in Christchurch, his re-writing of well known history .... to make his actions and intolerance and HATE allowed and excused.
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Rwanda and its chopping up of 500,000- 800,000, with machetes is a very recent example of extreme intolerance and faith based involvement in this. INSIDE CHURCHES.

Love Not hate. I still am agog, not a word from any response on the tragedy that befell our fellow men and women and children. No comment ?

Maybe Jordan and his historical amnesia or dementia as one poster admitted to, is the go.

Have you never heard of the above events ? In a world with a population of less than 100 million, killing one million is big, 3 million is, very hard without modern travel. Christianity managed to do it, time and time and time again.

Yes we are saints !! Christians. All Jordan can manage to quote is protestants and that fight. Not even an impartial judge would rank it in the top 1,000 events post BC.

So so sad, I pray for you ... LOVE TRUMPS HATE. Intolerance and indifference, you say potato I say HATE couched in justification. I pray as a lapsed Catholic and closer to Lutheran in beliefs. Does that make me a target of more bile filled hate and name calling ?

Well done Jordan, rewriting a horrid history and past of intolerance. with your new vision.

I would ask what was actually FACTUAL verses fiction or extreme re-writing of history from Jordans perspective. He is what he is. Monster ? Or sadly ill ? Pick and choose !! Or put up and shut up, or as I said, stand up and say NO !!
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You were asked one simple question: Could you point something out that was not factual in relation to what he had to say about Islam?

But unable to answer that you go into another gibberish rant about everything but the question asked. Jordan has not defended any of the atrocities you mentioned. The fact that he doesn't mention them every time he is asked about modern day Islam is irrelevant. We are talking about present day oppression of gays, women and apostates, which stem directly from Islamic teachings and are law in many Islamic countries.

Again in relation to the video you posted that you called a gem: Could you point something out that was not factual in relation to what he had to say about Islam?
 
Hello Brother.

We, and others have been having a discussion about Jordan Peterson and his beliefs, claims, and for me, initially it was his lies about climate change and his background. He never worked for the UN, he was, a minor adviser, for less than 6 months, UNPAID, on a paper that was NOT about climate change. He is credited not as one of the 26 principals but on page 196, along with 300 others. His teaching of no tolerance on other topics and couched in that, openly showing your hate and fear and intolerance, that for you has been what did you say ? You called it a “gibberish rant” ?

Asked that a man who preaches intolerance, hate couched in the idea its OK to express it. I took a leaf from Jordans own book and his talk, Jordans, about Islam started with holding the Christian Church along with the Jewish one up above Islam. I did not speak of the Jewish faith, there is enough hate to fill several boats on that topic.

His 6 minutes of perspective, Utube video, horribly whitewashed perspective of Christianity and its background. I ignored his anti Islam theme, and first cleaned my own house, being Christian and that during the ages, Christianity has wiped 1% of global population away many times, in total 10% or in today's terms, a 720 million sized genocide, seems to have slipped his perspective. I would mention number three in the worlds largest Christian church and me being Christian and according to Peterson I must first clear my own house, mentioning the number three in the Catholic Church just got convicted of paedophilia seems to make Petersons speech about Christian and Jewish virtues over Islam even more pathetic. Or as you in your hate filled, intolerant world call ? A “gibberish rant” on my behalf.

I have expressed my sympathy for the NOW, 50 people gunned down in a place of worship and with dismay, not a single responder and defender of Peterson on this thread and his belief of NON tolerance, even acknowledges the event. Or being fair … Jordan has not defended any of the atrocities you mentioned. Peterson was in Christchurch on the 20th February 2019. Three weeks prior to this event, and he did manage to speak right next door to one of the atrocities.

His views on Islam and his video, holding Christianity and Judaism above Islam are quite amazing. In his OPENING line, he openly states ISLAM verses Christianity is a massive problem. Dismisses secular or non nondenominational faith in a single sentence. Respect for others faith. Out the window.

Why the hell would someone listen any more ? HATE COUCHED IN verbal fear and perspective missing ? More Gibberish rant ? I chose NOT to attack anthers religious beliefs. I am ASKED to prove anything he said is incorrect ? I Talk about Christian shortcomings and Rwanda and 800.000 dead, via Christian beliefs in 1994 is where I went. Oh and they ALSO chopped up a tribe, totally annihilating a tribe of 50,000 people as well. All Christians.

This was up to 24 seconds INTO his speech on hate filled intolerance of Islam. By 1 minute and 18 seconds, despite atrocities in 1994 that Christianity in the name of Christ chopped up 800,000 other Christians, he speaks of peace on Christianity's behalf.

He is dismissive of Islam and its beliefs, from the very start whilst being blind to the realities he ignores. TOLERANCE and LOVE.

Being asked to validate or agree with anything this person says, beyond is irrelevant in light of the massacre in New Zealand and its relationship to this diatribe of intolerance by Peterson on Islam and its faith. HE rambles, incoherently about where one faith was formed over 1,000 years ago verses another. HE actually says a religion called ISLAM spread by the sword at about 2 minutes, and your actual defence of this MONSTER, and Peterson via his spreading of intolerance and acceptance of it being OK to hate and FEAR, admitting he is NON SECULAUR and sees a big problem Islam verses Christianity, when one can go back a mere 24 years and find an atrocity of such barbaric nature Christian verses Christian, make his fear and intolerance even more absurd.

In two simple words, Peterson, his devoted, followers and their intolerance for Islam on display here again, intolerance and hate of others, different and maybe brown, or black, or gay, or whatever. Its all on display, yet again.

I will not validate hate. Or intolerance over love and acceptance.

Those two words ?

“Hello Brother”. A man, in Christchurch, a man, faced by a rage filled, hate filled maniac, greets a person whom he knows will and is going to kill him with two words. “Hello Brother”. Not begging for his life and urinating like I suspect most like Jordan Peterson and his followers would be at this point. This man, a MAN OF FAITH, a man devote in peace, in sheer display of acceptance and love. Without anger, without fear, greeted a man he knew would kill him with two words. Words of greeting, of compassion, with kindness. “Hello Brother” and his reward was three bullets, as he was executed

Is that being a bit too intolerant for followers of Jordan and his views ? Gibberish ? Would I, a mere mortal verses this man whom I believe was NOT the IMAN or the head of the Mosque, just a person of faith, a good person who shone brighter than the sun in his last moments. Your asking me to denigrate another faith, clearly one that teaches love and validate a hate filled failed university professor teaching no tolerance and a skewed perverted scare filled view of religion and conflict.

This man, a man I wish I knew. A man of a different religion, set of beliefs, in his last moments showed what a pathetic monster and intolerant hate filled person one must be to not even acknowledge this, and instead asked to validate a monsters view on his religion ?

Yes more “Gibberish”. Peterson and others we have touched upon, stoke fear, intolerance and often acts of hatred and violence. In this good mans last moments, he displayed a level of faith, few could ever aspire to.

Love and tolerance and Acceptance, is NOT what Jordan teaches. He does the opposite and teaches fear, non acceptance, open hatred and an absurd view of the world couched in a clear that makes it OK to openly express that fear and hatred.

Enough … its been illuminating. Expecting me to devolve down to the gutter of hate and intolerance is not about to happen. LOVE always Trumps HATE.

A a modern day saint or prophet just said on Friday.

“Hello Brother”

His last words.

Take a good look at your devoted following of those without remorse, compassion, tolerance or faith. Yes more gibberish from one aspiring to be a mere speck on that mans shoes who on Friday displayed faith, tolerance and humanity in whatever shape triumphs over evil
 
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kahuna1 said:
Hello Brother.

We, and others have been having a discussion about Jordan Peterson and his beliefs, claims, and for me, initially it was his lies about climate change and his background. He never worked for the UN, he was, a minor adviser, for less than 6 months, UNPAID, on a paper that was NOT about climate change. He is credited not as one of the 26 principals but on page 196, along with 300 others. His teaching of no tolerance on other topics and couched in that, openly showing your hate and fear and intolerance, that for you has been what did you say ? You called it a “gibberish rant” ?

Asked that a man who preaches intolerance, hate couched in the idea its OK to express it. I took a leaf from Jordans own book and his talk, Jordans, about Islam started with holding the Christian Church along with the Jewish one up above Islam. I did not speak of the Jewish faith, there is enough hate to fill several boats on that topic.

His 6 minutes of perspective, Utube video, horribly whitewashed perspective of Christianity and its background. I ignored his anti Islam theme, and first cleaned my own house, being Christian and that during the ages, Christianity has wiped 1% of global population away many times, in total 10% or in today's terms, a 720 million sized genocide, seems to have slipped his perspective. I would mention number three in the worlds largest Christian church and me being Christian and according to Peterson I must first clear my own house, mentioning the number three in the Catholic Church just got convicted of paedophilia seems to make Petersons speech about Christian and Jewish virtues over Islam even more pathetic. Or as you in your hate filled, intolerant world call ? A “gibberish rant” on my behalf.

I have expressed my sympathy for the NOW, 50 people gunned down in a place of worship and with dismay, not a single responder and defender of Peterson on this thread and his belief of NON tolerance, even acknowledges the event. Or being fair … Jordan has not defended any of the atrocities you mentioned. Peterson was in Christchurch on the 20th February 2019. Three weeks prior to this event, and he did manage to speak right next door to one of the atrocities.

His views on Islam and his video, holding Christianity and Judaism above Islam are quite amazing. In his OPENING line, he openly states ISLAM verses Christianity is a massive problem. Dismisses secular or non nondenominational faith in a single sentence. Respect for others faith. Out the window.

Why the hell would someone listen any more ? HATE COUCHED IN verbal fear and perspective missing ? More Gibberish rant ? I chose NOT to attack anthers religious beliefs. I am ASKED to prove anything he said is incorrect ? I Talk about Christian shortcomings and Rwanda and 800.000 dead, via Christian beliefs in 1994 is where I went. Oh and they ALSO chopped up a tribe, totally annihilating a tribe of 50,000 people as well. All Christians.

This was up to 24 seconds INTO his speech on hate filled intolerance of Islam. By 1 minute and 18 seconds, despite atrocities in 1994 that Christianity in the name of Christ chopped up 800,000 other Christians, he speaks of peace on Christianity's behalf.

He is dismissive of Islam and its beliefs, from the very start whilst being blind to the realities he ignores. TOLERANCE and LOVE.

Being asked to validate or agree with anything this person says, beyond is irrelevant in light of the massacre in New Zealand and its relationship to this diatribe of intolerance by Peterson on Islam and its faith. HE rambles, incoherently about where one faith was formed over 1,000 years ago verses another. HE actually says a religion called ISLAM spread by the sword at about 2 minutes, and your actual defence of this MONSTER, and Peterson via his spreading of intolerance and acceptance of it being OK to hate and FEAR, admitting he is NON SECULAUR and sees a big problem Islam verses Christianity, when one can go back a mere 24 years and find an atrocity of such barbaric nature Christian verses Christian, make his fear and intolerance even more absurd.

In two simple words, Peterson, his devoted, followers and their intolerance for Islam on display here again, intolerance and hate of others, different and maybe brown, or black, or gay, or whatever. Its all on display, yet again.

I will not validate hate. Or intolerance over love and acceptance.

Those two words ?

“Hello Brother”. A man, in Christchurch, a man, faced by a rage filled, hate filled maniac, greets a person whom he knows will and is going to kill him with two words. “Hello Brother”. Not begging for his life and urinating like I suspect most like Jordan Peterson and his followers would be at this point. This man, a MAN OF FAITH, a man devote in peace, in sheer display of acceptance and love. Without anger, without fear, greeted a man he knew would kill him with two words. Words of greeting, of compassion, with kindness. “Hello Brother” and his reward was three bullets, as he was executed

Is that being a bit too intolerant for followers of Jordan and his views ? Gibberish ? Would I, a mere mortal verses this man whom I believe was NOT the IMAN or the head of the Mosque, just a person of faith, a good person who shone brighter than the sun in his last moments. Your asking me to denigrate another faith, clearly one that teaches love and validate a hate filled failed university professor teaching no tolerance and a skewed perverted scare filled view of religion and conflict.

This man, a man I wish I knew. A man of a different religion, set of beliefs, in his last moments showed what a pathetic monster and intolerant hate filled person one must be to not even acknowledge this, and instead asked to validate a monsters view on his religion ?

Yes more “Gibberish”. Peterson and others we have touched upon, stoke fear, intolerance and often acts of hatred and violence. In this good mans last moments, he displayed a level of faith, few could ever aspire to.

Love and tolerance and Acceptance, is NOT what Jordan teaches. He does the opposite and teaches fear, non acceptance, open hatred and an absurd view of the world couched in a clear that makes it OK to openly express that fear and hatred.

Enough … its been illuminating. Expecting me to devolve down to the gutter of hate and intolerance is not about to happen. LOVE always Trumps HATE.

A a modern day saint or prophet just said on Friday.

“Hello Brother”

His last words.

Take a good look at your devoted following of those without remorse, compassion, tolerance or faith. Yes more gibberish from one aspiring to be a mere speck on that mans shoes who on Friday displayed faith, tolerance and humanity in whatever shape triumphs over evil
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Yes. You can't admit he is right. But instead write another gibberish essay that attributes to JP thinks that he has never said or misinterprets what he has said.

You come across as someone who is consumed by your own hate, unable to rationally judge other people or what they say and then you spray your hate by accusing others of the very failing that you have exhibited since I first saw your posts here.
 
Peace brother ....

if words cannot be understood, even when spoken, written or quoted, your intolerance and hate make me mourn for you. Hate cannot be confused with intolerance ... nor can love. My intolerance of hate couched and masked in intolerance, is confusing you, for that I am sorry.

Possibly if you get someone to help and read the last post, the lights may turn on.

Good luck on your search. Love you xxx
 
kahuna1 said:
Peace brother ....

if words cannot be understood, even when spoken, written or quoted, your intolerance and hate make me mourn for you. Hate cannot be confused with intolerance ... nor can love. My intolerance of hate couched and masked in intolerance, is confusing you, for that I am sorry.

Possibly if you get someone to help and read the last post, the lights may turn on.

Good luck on your search. Love you xxx
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And your answer to the question Could you point something out that was not factual in relation to what he had to say about Islam? is
 
I can smell urine ?

Nothing like fear .... intolerance and hate on display.




Well done Jordan. Well done your extremist views and that stench, it just will not go away. Maybe femme fresh, its meant for women, but seems strangely appropriate.
 
A topic Close to Jordans heart .... well it would be ...



HOw Jordan became famous !! Intolerance ...
 
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