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Jordan Peterson

Fair enough Junior,

Opinions are just that. I disliked him on a mere casual listen prior to spending as you can see many hours listening and being asked to provide HIM saying things, not some left wing paper or whatever. I provided it, him speaking, him on one hand going I have NO view on climate change, HIS words. Then in the next sentence dismissing totally even climate warming which is scientifically proven. The science behind it is so robust, so well covered between 19 organizations globally measuring it, his dismissive roll of the eyes and what is a psychological trick or tactic of the very disturbed, minimizing and gaslighting is exactly the tactics of Trump.

I may sound unfair, but I suspect I know what this plonker read, and WHY he is questioning it. He likely has read some of the climate deniers stuff. Some of it, is utterly convincing. Two Nobel prize winners, under the employ of coal companies published stuff. If one stopped, THERE ... as it appears Mr Peterson did, one would be convinced because they won the Nobel prize their views were unquestionable.

I would point out, the two Nobel prize winners and climate deniers won their prizes in things that HAVE NOT A THING ... to do with climate change. NOTHING. Because they won a prize, their view, opinion is infallible ? I don't think so !!Over 100 scientists in the field critically reviewed their opinion and poked so many holes in their rubbish PRIOR to learning one worked directly for the Coch Brothers foundation .... the Coal brothers ... the OIL refinery brothers ...

Its strange that a person selling books and lectures about questioning facts, or truths or dogmas, actually swallows what is easily and scientifically rubbish. If he could explain WHY the Arctic Ice is melting from some other perspective, or reason, maybe I might not find his views so distasteful. Its not that he disagrees with 50,000 scientists in the field, its a joke, a person selling the idea of questioning everything, and reality and what is real or perception, actually is making a jackass of himself and his teachings.

Yep the ice breaker top speed, Canadian, just like this jackass, top speed in open sea 14 knots managed 13 knots all the way to the North Pole last summer.

It is a strange world these far right people that now the USA and its ambassador to the UN, is a housewife with NO experience, NONE, other than 3 marriages and last one to a coal baron is a firm climate denier and he donated 3 million to Trumps election, and hey presto we have a housewife, and no offense to Women, there have been some great people in the UN, Female, but a housewife with an undergrad degree and no work experience as such, now heads the USA in the United Nations.

As Darc Knight said very well, its hard enough to get us to co-operate on anything without people deliberately for self interest denying any issue exists. I am merely saying MR Peterson is self serving, quite clearly delusional in his own beliefs, not factually even honest with his own background and clearly, quite clearly DOES NOT even do what he preaches. Question everything !! I have been forced to question my own not well founded dislike for this turkey and sratched the surface and found it stunk like dogs doo doo and been forced and asked to go further and provide the smoking gun of this idiots views, and I did so .... and if in my opinion the world would be far better without his views given any media.

I dream of course. I am sure Mr Plonker would have some brilliant quip and comeback ... just keep asking if 19 temperature measuring institutes with several thousand actual scientists are wrong ? Or that an ICEBREAKER did sail to the North pole last summer ? He would GASLIGHT and PROJECT and his personality likely split as can be seen when he is cornered ... all traits of what a shrink could tell himself .. a serious disorder.
 
Peterson may well have a "serious disorder" , which I doubt, though admittedly I am no psychiatrist, but he has helped many people who have some sort of disorder.
He is always happy to help those people who really do have a "serious disorder", even those from the left.
 
Peterson may well have a "serious disorder" , which I doubt, though admittedly I am no psychiatrist, but he has helped many people who have some sort of disorder.
He is always happy to help those people who really do have a "serious disorder", even those from the left.

Not any more. Does this sort of stuff for a living now.
Over $100 a ticket and heaps of free publicity, smart guy.
 
Not any more. Does this sort of stuff for a living now.
Over $100 a ticket and heaps of free publicity, smart guy.
He is a smart guy and is making a lot of money at the moment.
Actually he is currently helping more people on a daily basis than he did previously in all his clinical days. Admittedly it is not under clinical conditions.
 
Not any more. Does this sort of stuff for a living now.
Over $100 a ticket and heaps of free publicity, smart guy.
Good on him, as per Al Gore..anyone remember? Well he did put the GW on the open, great, JP put the fanatism and self destruction of the rising western far left .
Guess you need that to rise above cat pictures and vegan recipes, or Close Adani debates typed on made in china phones....
Happy to spend 83$ tonight.could have been cheaper if i wanted to...
Cheaper than Miley Cyrus?
 
Ok how about this....
Why are these interviewers getting a shrink on to answers questions about climate change?

No wonder the guy gets pissed. He rates well and ever interview he turns up to he has to suffer through these questions.

And the left seem to delight in trying to catch him out. And thats all it is. Discredit the guy, any means possible.
 
Good on him, as per Al Gore..anyone remember? Well he did put the GW on the open, great, JP put the fanatism and self destruction of the rising western far left .
Guess you need that to rise above cat pictures and vegan recipes, or Close Adani debates typed on made in china phones....
Happy to spend 83$ tonight.could have been cheaper if i wanted to...
Cheaper than Miley Cyrus?

Will be interested on your opinion of the talk and whether he really has something to say. Also if he plays any psychology tricks on the audience.
https://www.bing.com/videos/search?...D3BE7AFFD828B82F409AD3BE7AFFD828B82&FORM=VIRE
 
I have the tossers speech already ...



saved myself $84 and can go see Britney ... YEAH ... I do love his line about women wearing makeup are asking for it !!

FOX NEWS ///// FOX fox fox and more fox .... is he a secret gay ? He must be with such homophobic stuff he says, even more stupid and insulting than his climate stuff !!
 
I have the tossers speech already ...



saved myself $84 and can go see Britney ... YEAH ... I do love his line about women wearing makeup are asking for it !!

FOX NEWS ///// FOX fox fox and more fox .... is he a secret gay ? He must be with such homophobic stuff he says, even more stupid and insulting than his climate stuff !!

Did Jordan peterson shite in your cornflakes or something?
 
SirRumpole, i had a respect for you.
your last input put this in doubt.have the moral integrity, which i believe you have, to be a bit above the crass propaganda links and read his books watch some lecture
He is first and foremost a psychologist,and has a decent theory on basically life, its purpose.
Individual responsability
His fame/hate among the globalists is that he highlights individualism, not the tribe.
Talk was good, not political,and amazed at audience 30 to 40 pc female, mix of ages..was not expecting that.
A ray of hope actually that there are still actually Australians valuing "esprit critique"
Funny how the left now hates a guy who recommend a book list headed by brave new world, 1984, animal farm, etc..
Learn to make your own judgement..is that subversive in 2019?
 
SirRumpole, i had a respect for you.
your last input put this in doubt.have the moral integrity, which i believe you have, to be a bit above the crass propaganda links and read his books watch some lecture
He is first and foremost a psychologist,and has a decent theory on basically life, its purpose.
Individual responsability
His fame/hate among the globalists is that he highlights individualism, not the tribe.
Talk was good, not political,and amazed at audience 30 to 40 pc female, mix of ages..was not expecting that.
A ray of hope actually that there are still actually Australians valuing "esprit critique"
Funny how the left now hates a guy who recommend a book list headed by brave new world, 1984, animal farm, etc..
Learn to make your own judgement..is that subversive in 2019?


I agree he's probably a good psychologist.

Personal responsibility is obviously important in one's own life, people need this for personal development and the ability to control one's life direction. But if a person wants to influence society beyond their own circle it usually has to be done as a part of a mass movement.

Think of Ian Kiernan. He couldn't clean up Australia by himself so he motivated others to do their bit.

Some of the Right would probably think than Clean Up Australia was a socialist organisation, a lot of worker drones doing the bidding of their masters, but no one forced them to do it they did so because they wanted to be part of a movement that achieved a positive result. Each individual took personal responsibility for a small part of a large job.

Sure Peterson is right to criticise PC and identity politics, I just don't think that he's got a lot of ideas beyond broad generalisation and ranting against "The Left" .
 
I think that is a gross mischaractarization of JP, whst he criticizes and what "the right* think socialism is, Horace.

Clean up Australia is classic Austrian individualism which works cooperatively and voluntarily for a mutually beneficial result. This is the antithesis of state compulsion under threat of sanction as in a socialism.

The right does not eschew working cooperatively, hence the doctrine of charity, it eschews being forced to do so.

But, whstever.
 
I agree he's probably a good psychologist.

Personal responsibility is obviously important in one's own life, people need this for personal development and the ability to control one's life direction. But if a person wants to influence society beyond their own circle it usually has to be done as a part of a mass movement.

Think of Ian Kiernan. He couldn't clean up Australia by himself so he motivated others to do their bit.

Some of the Right would probably think than Clean Up Australia was a socialist organisation, a lot of worker drones doing the bidding of their masters, but no one forced them to do it they did so because they wanted to be part of a movement that achieved a positive result. Each individual took personal responsibility for a small part of a large job.

Sure Peterson is right to criticise PC and identity politics, I just don't think that he's got a lot of ideas beyond broad generalisation and ranting against "The Left" .
Do not take me wrong,he is not a genius, but definitively very clever, and very good in his field.
I doubt the rant would be there if he was not or lets say the western world was not under constant attack
From a brainless left.
I think therefore i am, think for yourself are motto i try to follow.
I am sorry but a 20yor worse 40y old old repeating what is rehashed in paper or internet news feed, is not the way we can sort the world, or is it.?
If it is, not av
world i want to be in.i remember Ussr and i travelled on the other side of the iron wall as a young kid, i spent 1.5y in China, .lately and when i see the mob attitude of the left, i w
want to cry.
We should have a youth innovative progressive in the positive term due to let's say ignorance of life and enthusiasm..and that is good, and an older generations more weathered and conservative.
Fair.this is how i see the left and right
But not dimwits who are just swallowing an unprecedented level of what can only be described as propaganda, with hate at its core.
Hate against the other as usual, the rich, the white, the old the male, the west and no more mankind united, we are now tribal..
This is stalin/hitler again Sir rumpole
Make no mistakewe all know how it starts, and know how it ended.
Will we launch pogroms against deniers,meat eaters when people will present unpleasant facts.?
Fix people first, learn from history and the world has a chance is JP very summary concept.
I personally think that it is a valid maybe unsufficient concept,
I think therefore I am
 
I agree he's probably a good psychologist.

Personal responsibility is obviously important in one's own life, people need this for personal development and the ability to control one's life direction. But if a person wants to influence society beyond their own circle it usually has to be done as a part of a mass movement.

Think of Ian Kiernan. He couldn't clean up Australia by himself so he motivated others to do their bit.

Some of the Right would probably think than Clean Up Australia was a socialist organisation, a lot of worker drones doing the bidding of their masters, but no one forced them to do it they did so because they wanted to be part of a movement that achieved a positive result. Each individual took personal responsibility for a small part of a large job.

Sure Peterson is right to criticise PC and identity politics, I just don't think that he's got a lot of ideas beyond broad generalisation and ranting against "The Left" .
And by the way thanks for a decent response,can disagree on some points but overall OK with that
i knew you were an independent spirit
 
He probably needs to shut his mouth on certain serious topics like Climate Change as all the right-wing nutjob zealots hang off his every word.
Cue the right wing nutjob zealots :p
 
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