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Knobby22 said:
Another position he supports is restrictions to birth control e.g. the pill.
This will need to go to the Supreme court to further restrict women. The Taliban would love him as a member.
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The Republican Party Is Coming for Birth Control

The insistence from GOP elites that they mean to do no such thing is a lie.
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Would appear that this proposed VP is verging on the nutter side of life.
 
Anyone who believes anything the communist propaganda sh1trag mentioned above has no business voting in elections, any election.
 
As above I have previously not really listened much to Mr Vance. Having now done so I think I am actually pretty impressed.

If interested here is one of his interviews with a little bit of a analysis from a black American.

 
JD Vance attacked Tim Walz's military record. Just seemed like good idea to try and undermine what Tim did as soldier and in Congress for the US military.

This dissection of Tim's military career by a US General underlines how off point the attack has been. Just disgraceful - and stoopid.

 
They played Vance's speech in Munich today on the ABC.
It was an excellent speech, well constructed with salient points about the ability to govern, the importance of a strong mandate, immigration problems, politicians being risk averse.

Worth a listen.
 
Knobby22 said:
They played Vance's speech in Munich today on the ABC. It was an excellent speech, well constructed with salient points about the ability to govern, the importance of a strong mandate, immigration problems, politicians being risk averse.
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"Even when people express views outside your own country, and even when those people are very influential — and trust me, I say this with all humor — if American democracy can survive ten years of Greta Thunberg’s scolding you guys can survive a few months of Elon Musk."
 
Knobby22 said:
They played Vance's speech in Munich today on the ABC.
It was an excellent speech, well constructed with salient points about the ability to govern, the importance of a strong mandate, immigration problems, politicians being risk averse.

Worth a listen.
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“You simply don’t like the idea that somebody with an alternative viewpoint might express a different opinion or God forbid, vote a different way, or even worse when an election,’’ he said.​
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“Now, again, we don’t have to agree like with everything, or anything that people say, but when political leaders represent an important constituency, it is incumbent upon us to at least participate in dialogue with them.”​
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He said: “What I worry about is the threat from within. The retreat of Europe from some of its most fundamental values.” ​

US accused of picking a fight with Europe as JD Vance unloads at Munich security conference​

US Vice-President JD Vance has warned the loss of European values poses a greater threat to the continent than Russia does, in a blisteringly blunt address to the Munich Security Conference which immediately raised the ire of politicians.

European leaders sat in shock as Mr Vance touched on sensitive issues such as abortion laws in Britain, Europeans rejecting the recent election in Romania and leaders not countering illegal migration: accusing them of ignoring wishes of the public and constraining freedom of speech.

After his 20-minute speech, politicians at the conference hit back. Germany’s defence minister Boris Pistorius said Mr Vance’s remarks were “unacceptable”. He denied the suggestion that Germany and the EU were authoritarian and that they feared populist parties.

“This is not acceptable, this is not the democracy that I witness every day in our parliament, every opinion has a voice,” Mr Pistorius said.

Kaja Kallas, the EU’s foreign policy chief, said the speech was the US “trying to pick a fight” with Europe.

“Listening to that speech, they try to pick a fight with us and we don’t want to a pick a fight with our friends,” she said, insisting that there were bigger threats such as Russia’s war with Ukraine.

Ukrainian politician Oleksiy Honcharenko, who was in the room listening to the speech, tweeted that Mr Vance brought about the “total humiliation of all European leaders”.

“People in the room are shocked. For most of Vance’s speech, the European leaders and bureaucrats looked at each other, and there was almost no applause.”

Mr Vance had told the conference: “There is a new sheriff in town,” referring to President Donald Trump. “We may disagree with your views but we will fight to defend your right to offer it in the public square.”

He added: “If you’re running in fear of your own voters, there is nothing America can do for you, nor, for that matter, is there anything that you can do for the American people who elected me and elected President Trump.”

As many in the room looked on stony-faced, Mr Vance said European leaders looked like they were hiding more and more behind ugly Soviet era words like misinformation and disinformation.

“You simply don’t like the idea that somebody with an alternative viewpoint might express a different opinion or God forbid, vote a different way, or even worse when an election,’’ he said.

He even addressed the Munich security conference organisation which had banned politicians representing populist parties on both the left and the right.

He said: “Now, again, we don’t have to agree like with everything, or anything that people say, but when political leaders represent an important constituency, it is incumbent upon us to at least participate in dialogue with them.”

Mr Vance opened his speech saying the threat that worries him is not Russia, not China, nor any other external actor.

He said: “What I worry about is the threat from within. The retreat of Europe from some of its most fundamental values.”

“The biggest threat to Europe isn’t external — it’s internal. A retreat from its own fundamental values, values shared with the US.”

He said that a former European commissar went on television recently and sounded delighted that the Romanian government had just annulled an election and warned the very same thing could happen in Germany too.

“Now, these cavalier statements are shocking to American ears,’’ he said.

“When I look at Europe today, it’s sometimes not so clear what happened to some of the Cold War’s winners.’’

But he said he was most concerned about “dear friends, the United Kingdom” saying the country’s backslide away from conscience rights has placed the basic liberties of religious Britons, in particular, in the crosshairs.

He spoke about Adam Smith-Connor, who was arrested while praying when he refused to leave a safe zone around an abortion clinic.

Mr Vance said: “He was sentenced to pay thousands of pounds in legal costs to the prosecution. Now, I wish I could say that this was a fluke, a one-off crazy example of a badly written law being enacted against a single person, but no, this last October just a few months ago, the Scottish government began distributing letters to citizens whose houses lay within so-called safe access areas. Warning them that even private prayer within their own homes may amount to breaking the law.”

Mr Vance finished his speech urging European leaders to listen to the public.

“European leaders have a choice, and my strong belief is that we do not need to be afraid of the future embrace what your people tell you even when it’s surprising, even when you don’t agree. And if you do so you can face the future with certainty and with confidence, knowing that the nation stands behind each of you. And that, to me, is it is the great magic of democracy.”

Later in the day Mr Vance met with Ukraine president Volodymyr Zelensky calling for “durable peace”. He said: “We want the war to come to a close, we want the killing to stop, but we want to achieve a durable, lasting peace, not the kind of peace that’s going to have Eastern Europe in conflict just a couple years down the road”.

Mr Zelensky said there were more work to do to prepare a plan for how to stop Vladimir Putin.
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JohnDe said:
“You simply don’t like the idea that somebody with an alternative viewpoint might express a different opinion or God forbid, vote a different way, or even worse when an election,’’ he said.​
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“Now, again, we don’t have to agree like with everything, or anything that people say, but when political leaders represent an important constituency, it is incumbent upon us to at least participate in dialogue with them.”​
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He said: “What I worry about is the threat from within. The retreat of Europe from some of its most fundamental values.” ​
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The American way of looking at things is very different to the European. Australia is sort of in-between.
I understand where Vance was coming from. I also understand why the European leaders would be so against that.
The trouble is that think they are being nice and good but that is leading to outcomes that are the opposite.
Change needs to occur, people are tired, they need to let it happen.
They don't have to do it the American way though. They don't have to go down that path. Everyone knows the schism between Democrats and Republicans is way worse. But Vance's point still stands.
 
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Habeck attacks US Vice President:​

"Mind your own business"​


Now Green Party candidate for chancellor Robert Habeck (55) is also criticizing US Vice President JD Vance (40) after his speech at the Munich Security Conference.​

Habeck said in an interview with RTL/ntv: "What Vance did yesterday is none of his business. You have to say that clearly. It's none of your business." And then made a tough statement to Trump's vice president: "Mind your own business, there are enough tasks in the USA."​




Meanwhile -

German authorities say they are investigating possible Islamic extremist​

motive for Munich car-ramming attack​


MUNICH (AP) — The suspect in the car-ramming attack in Munich that injured 39 people appears to have had an Islamic extremist motive, but there’s no evidence that he was involved with any radical network, authorities said Friday.

The 24-year-old Afghan, who arrived in Germany as an asylum-seeker in 2016 and lived in Munich, was arrested after driving a Mini Cooper into a labor union demonstration in the Bavarian city on Thursday. He was arrested after police officers pulled him out of the car after firing a shot at the vehicle, which didn’t hit him.

Authorities said 39 people were injured in the attack, two of them very seriously and eight seriously. A judge on Friday ordered that the suspect — whom authorities identified only as Farhad N. in line with German privacy rules — remain in custody pending a possible indictment.


https://www.pbs.org/newshour/world/...xtremist-motive-for-munich-car-ramming-attack



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Germany is gone.

They will never allow themselves to be remotely patriotic due to WWII and Hitler, that shadow will hang over them for eternity.
 

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