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Absolutely, I love the fact China is putting an 80% tarrif on our barley, because they believe the industry is subsidised by the Government.Still like that...
I like @Smurf1976 highlighting the arrogance of the west as a cause.
We aka west, not I , still see China as a mass of bicycle riding peasants going to the rice fields whereas it is a world factory sucking jobs from us and creating untold wealth.there.
And a feeling of a selected Han race akind to nazi ubermenschen...
We are still so naive with our democraties....
the 'Middle Kingdom' is their concept of being halfway between heaven and earth. It implies a certain elitismStill like that...
I like @Smurf1976 highlighting the arrogance of the west as a cause.
We aka west, not I , still see China as a mass of bicycle riding peasants going to the rice fields whereas it is a world factory sucking jobs from us and creating untold wealth.there.
And a feeling of a selected Han race akind to nazi ubermenschen...
We are still so naive with our democraties....
Believe it or not...Hong Kong and Taiwan will end up being part of one China...In 1997 when Britain made terms for the handover of Hong Kong China was not strong enough to oppose this.23years on they are and there is no hint of a US carrier fleet threatening them like in the not so distant past.There are sizeable minorities in Taiwan and Hong Kong that want to be part of one China.The "Middle Kingdom" is historical and goes way back,even when the western countries were killing them,bleeding them, and treating them with contempt.If I lived in Hong kong over the last 20 years I would have done my best to leave,but I have a western mentality.the 'Middle Kingdom' is their concept of being halfway between heaven and earth. It implies a certain elitism
But for a power projection that has bought endless dynasties that follow repeated cycles, the last century has seen Boxer rebellion, rise of Nationalism, civil war, Japanese invasion, Mao triumph, Great Leap Forward, Cultural Revolution, Get Rich is Glorious, Tiananmen, and whatever the current slogan is, I do wonder what's next? Not forgetting Tibet, Xinjiang, Hong Kong, Taiwan.
correct. So, the lesson to be learned..... 50 years of negotiated "two systems, one country" ain't worth a piece of crap.Believe it or not...Hong Kong and Taiwan will end up being part of one China...In 1997 when Britain made terms for the handover of Hong Kong China was not strong enough to oppose this.23years on they are and there is no hint of a US carrier fleet threatening them like in the not so distant past.There are sizeable minorities in Taiwan and Hong Kong that want to be part of one China.The "Middle Kingdom" is historical and goes way back,even when the western countries were killing them,bleeding them, and treating them with contempt.If I lived in Hong kong over the last 20 years I would have done my best to leave,but I have a western mentality.
Rule of Law depends who makes the laws..and in what circumstances .Probably not on China,but did you know that two weeks ago America made an attempt to kidnap Venezuelan president Madura so he could answer to US law.The team was trained in the US and the attempt launched from Columbia.Eight of the team were killed 23 captured(but more to come).Some in the US are calling it the "Bay of Piglets)Reminds me of Assange...we should answer to US law.correct. So, the lesson to be learned..... 50 years of negotiated "two systems, one country" ain't worth a piece of crap.
In other words, rule of law is a Western conceit. But a good one, IMO, and will bring a semblance of stability, whereas it would be fair to perceive by those exercising a capricious, arbitrary heavying of opposition, real or imagined, that their way is the winner.
It's looming as the 2020's battle of wills.
Rule of Law depends who makes the laws..and in what circumstances .Probably not on China,but did you know that two weeks ago America made an attempt to kidnap Venezuelan president Madura so he could answer to US law.The team was trained in the US and the attempt launched from Columbia.Eight of the team were killed 23 captured(but more to come).Some in the US are calling it the "Bay of Piglets)Reminds me of Assange...we should answer to US law.
Piglets might fly!1. An Associated Press investigation found no evidence of U.S. government involvement in the plot.
https://apnews.com/79346b4e428676424c0e5669c80fc310
Is China our enemy?I rarely read Australian newspapers...not reliable in the past.US warns it could ‘disconnect’ from Australia over Victoria’s Belt and Road deal with China
https://www.news.com.au/finance/bus...a/news-story/abb23216ff1b334019e711b1a134ca22
Didn't Andrews get the message...
Huawei banned from Australian 5G network
https://www.news.com.au/technology/...k/news-story/d1d6ec001747ba51e7c5c8738021f7ee
China lied, people died.
China is dangerous to the world.
Wake up Australia.
Play the long game.
Who is Gordon Chang?China is at war with the world. It wants to dominate it.
Gordon Chang On China: What We Must Do, & What We Must Not Do
First of all, China is not, as many people will tell you, just a competitor. It is an enemy. China is trying to overthrow the international system, and in that process, it is trying to make you subject to modern-day Chinese emperors.
That means there is only one inescapable conclusion. This conclusion is that China maliciously spread this virus around the world, sickening people, killing others.
This is the first time in history that one nation has attacked all the others.
That is not all. After admitting the human-to-human contagiousness of this disease, Beijing then downplayed it.
China's actions had consequences. Beijing lulled public health officials around the world, including those in the United States, into not taking actions that they otherwise would have adopted.
We must impose costs on China. We must impose costs because, first of all, what China did was a crime against all of humanity. We must also impose costs because we need to deter China. This is not going to be the last pathogen generated on Chinese soil. We got to make sure the Chinese leaders do not believe that they can maliciously spread another disease.
The truth is that the United States is defending more than just its position in the international system. We are defending the international system itself, the system of treaties, conventions, rules, and norms.
(A fairly long article but well worth a read.)
https://www.gatestoneinstitute.org/biography/Gordon+G.+ChangWho is Gordon Chang?
Had a quick look ...looks like solidly anti-Chinese.
Excellent book, excellent writer (similar to James A Michener)Had a quick look ...looks like solidly anti-Chinese.
Without looking I thought it was Gordon Chan,bastard son of the Taipan, in James Clavell's novel of the same name.However, he would have been dead for well over 100 years.I recommend that book to you .
It is about the founding of Hong Kong and goes into a lot of old Chinese beliefs and customs.One that I remember was the Chinese spat in the streets,and as they said, much better than carrying it around in their pockets like the Europeans.
They have doubled down again on this. There's an undercurrent attempting to bring down the CCP.China just warned against Australian travel. That's a big hit.
But will get us off the teat.
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