Very clever Rumpy.....So which ones have I been driving away from this thread?
POSTERS or VIEWERS.
I realize I am outnumbered by the Socialists on this thread and I have coped plenty of character assassination, ridicule and intimidation but that is the least of my worries as I am used to it but I would say there are members who would be most interested in posting their POV but fear the same malicious treatment consistently dealt out to me because I don't always agree with what you say.......So to dominate the thread, some of you will go out of your way to drive away a conservative POV by insinuation....Guess you can't blame them which is a shame....I am sure you would like to see me disappear from this thread because I am a thorn in your side....With me out of the way you have the whole thread to yourselves and continue to post your lies and propaganda in the true Fabian fashion.
Considering my post count is 120 your arithmetic is almost as pathetic as your reading skills.And yet your praising of Bill Shorten would out number your so called criticism 100 fold.
Considering my post count is 120 your arithmetic is almost as pathetic as your reading skills.
But feel free to prove your stupid assertion, if you can.
Trolling? For defending myself????? Phhht.More trolling hey......You just cannot help yourself...I feel so sorry for you.
Trolling? For defending myself????? Phhht.
You are better off feeling sorry for yourself after your imbecilic behaviour in this thread.
And I'm a gentleman compared to you. I'll speak to you the same way you speak to meI thought Rumpole was bad enough with his ridicule and insinuations, but he is a gentleman compared to you.
And I'm a gentleman compared to you. I'll speak to you the same way you speak to me
No. The deal is you post whatever you like about Shorten.Really, well how about you take the initiative first and I will follow suit.....If I name Bill shorten as a Fabian or criticize the Green/Labor left wing socialist coalition, you will now refrain from intimidation and ridicule....Is that the deal?
It's always a shame when these political threads are reduced to tit-for-tat personal attacks and accusations of trolling. It's been said many times in many ways: play the ball, not the man; attack the argument, not the person. Debate the issues all you like, but please don't make ad hominem attacks on others. Let's keep the discussion as constructive as possible.
No. The deal is you post whatever you like about Shorten.
I will post what I like about Shorten.
No insults from you. No retaliation from me.
We shake hands here and now. Better deal for everyone.
It's always a shame when these political threads are reduced to tit-for-tat personal attacks and accusations of trolling. It's been said many times in many ways: play the ball, not the man; attack the argument, not the person. Debate the issues all you like, but please don't make ad hominem attacks on others. Let's keep the discussion as constructive as possible.
Sadly, I think a dislike button would only add to the negativity. The answer is to keep the discussion constructive and ignore those who refuse to engage in constructive debate.
Joe, I am sure some would find that most difficult.......It is all about respect...If you don't give it, don't expect to receive itSadly, I think a dislike button would only add to the negativity. The answer is to keep the discussion constructive and ignore those who refuse to engage in constructive debate.
Yes back to intelligent debate please....
Shorten sucks.
In fact he sucks so much, I'm surprised the bedsheet doesn't vacuum up his ar$e when he goes to bed.
I agree that respect is critical, as is having an open mind. I have many friends and family members who I disagree with politically but can still have a constructive discussion with. Constructive discussion and debate is all about having the right intentions; to listen to other points of view with an open mind and then explaining why you believe the way you do. To both challenge others and to be challenged yourself and increase understanding on both sides.
Yes, a very intelligent post.Would you care to tell us why you think Shorten sucks ?
Personally I find him overly smarmy and ingratiating but I think he's done a good job getting a seriously divided Party back to an election winning position. He obviously has behind the scenes negotiating abilities.
I think he's a Right of centre politician who depends on the Left for survival which requires him to walk a tightrope on policy, in that respect he's in exactly the same position as Turnbull who is to the Left of his party but depends on the Right for survival.
That makes Turnbull and Shorten equally insecure in their leadership and either or both could topple before the next election.
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