Yes I did see something about Albo's past life and it was very sad....No Rumpy, I would never do that to some one like Albo who lead a hard early life as it was not his fault.
Is Shorten PM material?
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Yes I did see something about Albo's past life and it was very sad....No Rumpy, I would never do that to some one like Albo who lead a hard early life as it was not his fault.
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Hardly need a crystal ball to know the left of Labor are gathering the numbers to make policy. Only NSW stands in the way now. As you have rightly pointed out prior, Shorten is a capitalist socialist, while Albo is a union socialist. I would doubt Albo would risk going back to the pre Whitlam days of perpetual in opposition, by standing against Bill without convincing the electorate he is all for Hawke/Keating economics and glasnost.
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I think you are right, which is probably the reason that Albo has been virtually invisible the last three years.
Waiting for Bill to slip up , but in a way that he can't be accused of destabilsation.
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Looking forward to seeing that info. I've seen some unofficial stuff that could nail him but not going to report it until it's undeniable. Can't be too careful these days.
Wow....so you don't think comrade Bill is all he is cracked up to be......That is a shock coming from you.
This thread is certainly creating some interest.......195 viewers since 11 pm last night...Maybe they are waiting for something dramatic to happen as both you and GG know something is going on.......Does that mean the cat could be out of the bag any time soon?
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Maybe this has something to do with it.
http://www.smh.com.au/federal-polit...pm-on-all-fronts-but-one-20161220-gteu19.html
But lets face it, if even someone as lacklustre as Bill could nearly win an election, doesn't that say something about Turnbull & the Libs ?
No it doesn't except the low way Shorten went about things.
I am certainly not happy with Turnbull....He has to go and go very soon.
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Do yourself a favour noco and scroll back through this thread and you'll see that I've criticised Bill Shorten at least 5 times. Maybe the reason you haven't seen them is because you were too busy attacking the posters rather than reading the posts.
What I read is very much speculation from several years ago. I suspect this other info is something else.
PZ99...I did do the exercise and went back to when this thread started......Your first post is Dated 13/05/2015.
There was only post I could find where you criticized Comrade Bill which was post #744 about multi policy failures but those failures were most likely were the result of the various faction in the Labor Party rejecting them....So it really was not a slur by you of Bill Shorten.
Perhaps you could enlighten me of the other 4 occasions....You had plenty of praise for comrade Bill.
Perhaps you occupied too much of your time attacking me.
What I did find was some interesting posts where Bill sprouted fairness only to note where he dudded workers plenty of times.....Post # 744 # 770 #645 #641 # 26 is a bottler...don't miss that one.
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Look harder.
Look harder.
Correction. Defending myself against your personal attacks.
Nice bit of twisting to suit your argument. In any case it's BS. I was talking about Bill Shorten.
I've criticised Bill Shorten 5 or 6 times from Dec to yesterday. 5 of them in posts. 1 of them in external links. Links you clearly haven't read. Not my job to spoon feed you.
Look harder.
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You are the one driving people away from this site with your meaningless diatribes, quoting opinions of people (like Larry Pickering) who are so far off the planet that they could open a moonbase.
This forum is for intelligent debate not just rants, please do us a favour and at least try to get some facts behind what you are saying or join a far Right Wing blog where you will feel at home.
So you reckon I am still driving people away from this forum....
Wow......262 more viewers from 4 pm Saturday to 7.30 am Sunday this morning......That is just over night.....Looks like more people than ever are most interested.
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You haven't noticed that only about 5 people have recently posted to this thread ? How do you know if people are reading your posts or mine or PZ99's or Tisme's ?
There are always far more viewers than posters to any thread, which is a shame. A bit more diversity of opinion would help relieve the monotony of your confected rants.
You haven't noticed that only about 5 people have recently posted to this thread ? How do you know if people are reading your posts or mine or PZ99's or Tisme's ?
There are always far more viewers than posters to any thread, which is a shame. A bit more diversity of opinion would help relieve the monotony of your confected rants.
You just do not get my point.
You stated that I was driving people away from thread when in fact there are more and more viewers.
Whether they are viewing your post, my post or someone else's post in irrelevant to your statement that was driving people away from this thread.......So why aren't there less viewers as you say?
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As I said, viewers are not the same as posters. People are less likely to post a view contrary to yours because you will call them Fabians or Marxists or Commo traitors. Hence my point about the lack of contributors rather than viewers.
Clever and cunning is your trait on this forum and you consistently try to pull over peoples eyes but it does not work with me.
You say LOOK HARDER.
Now please state your 5 post numbers where you have been critical of Bill Shorten?...If you can do that, I am man enough to apologize.
Very clever Rumpy.....So which ones have I been driving away from this thread?
POSTERS or VIEWERS.
I realize I am outnumbered by the Socialists on this thread and I have coped plenty of character assassination, ridicule and intimidation but that is the least of my worries as I am used to it but I would say there are members who would be most interested in posting their POV but fear the same malicious treatment consistently dealt out to me because I don't always agree with what you say.......So to dominate the thread, some of you will go out of your way to drive away a conservative POV by insinuation....Guess you can't blame them which is a shame....I am sure you would like to see me disappear from this thread because I am a thorn in your side....With me out of the way you have the whole thread to yourselves and continue to post your lies and propaganda in the true Fabian fashion.
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Lack of comprehension skills obviously.
That is a strange answer.
How is comprehension skills applied to what we are talking about......I mentioned POSTERS or VIEWERS.
Comprehension......understanding : inclusion.
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Idiotic statement that doesn't even make any sense.
Exactly. So there goes your assertion as false.
I don't need an apology. Just a bit of basic respect would be a good start.
You've already picked 744 and 824. So that's two.
733 (mild: "Shorten will get the job by default as this Coalition Govt continues to disintegrate. Does that make him PM material? Probably not.")
733 (link: "Close allies of Bill Shorten on multiple criminal charges for alleged vandalism spree")
757 (mild - agreeing with your comment: "Shorten is only interested in power...Shorten cares bugger all about the National interest.")
770 (Indirect: "is a right winger leading a centre-left party. That's why his personal ratings are crap." )
773 (mild: "Welcome to the 21st century where Shorten, like all other aspirant leaders will shift their position solely to gain political mileage" )
812 (direct: "Personally I find the idea of PM Shorten rather nauseating")
Pick your favourite remaining 3 from that list and bookmark it because over the next fortnight that number will increase to 10 overall.
And yet your praising of Bill Shorten would out number your so called criticism 100 fold.
