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Is Shorten PM material?

Is Shorten PM material?

  • Yes

    Votes: 6 16.2%

  • No

    Votes: 31 83.8%
  • Total voters
    37
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Whiskers said:
Another example of ideology clouding out logic.

I recall seeing research long ago that said women tended to resent being patronised by a quota system and much preferred promotion on merit.

Labor has started to break down the corrupt preselection obstacles with Rudds rule changes... call me cynical, but I see this as an avenue for people like Shorton to plant supporters back in the party.

Once they start quotas for a few, where is it going to end?.. Women, gay, aboriginals, other ethnicity, religion, handicap, wealth, age...
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+1. Mr Shorten has already suggested amongst his current campaigning that there should be proportionate representation of indigenous people and gays, even if this had to be brought about via a quota.
Just crazy.

This isn't right on the topic, but I'm sure Mr Shorten would be keen on it, is an item on "The World Today" where there is now proposed to be, in addition to holiday leave and sick leave, domestic violence leave, suggested to be an additional twenty days a year. So apparently people whose home life is unpleasant can now take 20 days a year off work.

I'm the last person to want to underplay the hideousness of domestic or any other form of violence, but soon we're going to be at the stage where the business owner will be damn lucky to have his workers turn up at all.
 
noco said:
And this bloke wants to be Prime Minister one day.

He is like a rat living in a sewer....He is rotten to the core and deeply involved in all sorts of indirect corruption.

How come there are no back ground checks on people like Shorten. He should not even be in parliament.

Read the facts in the link below.


http://kangaroocourtofaustralia.com...-a-faceless-fool-the-real-bill-shorten-story/
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yet you have no problem with Abbotts slush fund in his attack on Hanson. When a politician says "There are some things the public has no particular right to know." you know they've done something very wrong and they're doing their damnedest to hide it.

I'll fully support any royal commission in the the behaviour of any of the ALP as long as Tony has to face under oath all the questions he's avoided and lied about over the years.

Could be a good way to clean out a corrupt lot eh?
 
sydboy007 said:
yet you have no problem with Abbotts slush fund in his attack on Hanson. When a politician says "There are some things the public has no particular right to know." you know they've done something very wrong and they're doing their damnedest to hide it.

I'll fully support any royal commission in the the behaviour of any of the ALP as long as Tony has to face under oath all the questions he's avoided and lied about over the years.

Could be a good way to clean out a corrupt lot eh?
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Do you have a link or any hard evidence on what you are claiming?

I must have hit a nerve old boy with the information laid out by The Kangaroo Court.:D:D:D
 
I've not read through this thread and have no interest in doing so. I just thought I would chime in with an observation that if Shorten were to be opposition leader then the Jesuit takeover of the westminster system of government would be complete! The chief justice of the high court, prime minister, treasurer and the opposition leader would all be Jesuit educated boys - not to mention other ministers such as Pyne, Joyce; and of course the Pope!
 
noco said:
Do you have a link or any hard evidence on what you are claiming?

I must have hit a nerve old boy with the information laid out by The Kangaroo Court.:D:D:D
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no nerve

I have little to no respect for the current crop of politicians. Brandis / Joyce / Slipper / Thompson all show what happens when you think you deserve extras, or just feel above the law.

Have a read of this and then let me know if you think Abbott has some very tricky questions to answer?

http://www.independentaustralia.net/2012/politics/tony-abbott-and-his-slushy-question-of-character/

http://www.theglobalmail.org/blog/in-politics-slush-happens/505/

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tinhat said:
I've not read through this thread and have no interest in doing so. I just thought I would chime in with an observation that if Shorten were to be opposition leader then the Jesuit takeover of the westminster system of government would be complete! The chief justice of the high court, prime minister, treasurer and the opposition leader would all be Jesuit educated boys - not to mention other ministers such as Pyne, Joyce; and of course the Pope!
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Balldric Pell's cunning plan has finally come to fruition :D
 
sydboy007 said:
no nerve

I have little to no respect for the current crop of politicians. Brandis / Joyce / Slipper / Thompson all show what happens when you think you deserve extras, or just feel above the law.

Have a read of this and then let me know if you think Abbott has some very tricky questions to answer?

http://www.independentaustralia.net/2012/politics/tony-abbott-and-his-slushy-question-of-character/

http://www.theglobalmail.org/blog/in-politics-slush-happens/505/

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Balldric Pell's cunning plan has finally come to fruition :D
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What does the Labor Party preach every time one of their members are in trouble.."INNOCENT UNTIL PROVEN GUILTY"

So I guess that would apply to Abbott as well as Slipper, Thomson and Gillard

And as for the donors to this so called slush fund....who knows the Labor Party may have been the largest donor.
 
noco said:
What does the Labor Party preach every time one of their members are in trouble.."INNOCENT UNTIL PROVEN GUILTY"

So I guess that would apply to Abbott as well as Slipper, Thomson and Gillard

And as for the donors to this so called slush fund....who knows the Labor Party may have been the largest donor.
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So Abbott banged on about the "slush fund" Gillard provided assistance in setting up, but no hands on access to it and Abbott spent what 6 months to a year saying questions must be answered.

But Abbotta sets up a "slush fund" does his damnedest to get legal advise on how to set it up in a way that he wont have to provide any info to the AEC, lies about it, pays the legal costs for someone who PURGERS themselves, and then says "There are some things the public has no particular right to know."

If that had come from Gillard I'm sure you'd have demanded her resignation, yet you just don't care that Abbott has been a serial liar and probably helped pervert democracy in this country.

People on this forum need to apply the same level of standards to all the politicians, not just those they don't approve of.

ps i have no real idea if Shorten is PM material, but then 3 years ago most would have said no way for Abbott, so attitudes can change.
 
sydboy007 said:
But Abbotta sets up a "slush fund" does his damnedest to get legal advise on how to set it up in a way that he wont have to provide any info to the AEC, lies about it, pays the legal costs for someone who PURGERS themselves, and then says "There are some things the public has no particular right to know."
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I am not too sure what PURGERS are but I think they are things which cause people to evacuate their bowels. I am at a loss to know why such an action would incur legal costs. I don't see why "Abbotta" would think that "the public has no particular right to know" about these faecal issues...but then I don't think they would want to.:confused:
 
Just watching Shorten on Lateline he's just hopeless.

Not only won't he be leader they would be wise to move him out of the party altogether.
 
Calliope said:
I am not too sure what PURGERS are but I think they are things which cause people to evacuate their bowels. I am at a loss to know why such an action would incur legal costs. I don't see why "Abbotta" would think that "the public has no particular right to know" about these faecal issues...but then I don't think they would want to.:confused:
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I suppose along the lines of your Nouse to nouse eh???

I suspect the majority know what I meant. Do you have to be the spelling nazi all the time. It really does add no value.

You get another :topic
 
Striking shearers met under the Tree of Knowledge in Barcaldine in 1891.

122 years on, I doubt that Bill Shorten is who they had in mind as the latter day expression of their movement. Or Bernie Riordan. Or Bob Carr.
 
Logique said:
Striking shearers met under the Tree of Knowledge in Barcaldine in 1891.

122 years on, I doubt that Bill Shorten is who they had in mind as the latter day expression of their movement. Or Bernie Riordan. Or Bob Carr.
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Menzies would probably be horrified at what the Liberal party represents today.

We're pretty much shafted by the sad lack of talent in the political gene pool these days.
 
Logique said:
Striking shearers met under the Tree of Knowledge in Barcaldine in 1891.

122 years on, I doubt that Bill Shorten is who they had in mind as the latter day expression of their movement. Or Bernie Riordan. Or Bob Carr.
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They would be absolutely gutted.

Let's hope a new Workers' Party arises from all the politically correct nonsense that is the modern ALP.

gg
 
The promiscuous Shorten has been in an out of many beds with anyone he can use in his quest for power.

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sydboy007 said:
Menzies would probably be horrified at what the Liberal party represents today.
We're pretty much shafted by the sad lack of talent in the political gene pool these days.
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Nice try Syd.

Menzies would be very proud of Tony Abbott. Borrowing from the American idiom, Abbott has the 'right stuff'.

Abbott stands for Australian values. Not those of failed European social democracies, like Gillard, Swan and Shorten. PM Abbott will keep the national books in the black.
 
Logique said:
Nice try Syd.

Menzies would be very proud of Tony Abbott. Borrowing from the American idiom, Abbott has the 'right stuff'.

Abbott stands for Australian values. Not those of failed European social democracies, like Gillard, Swan and Shorten. PM Abbott will keep the national books in the black.
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+1:xyxthumbs
 

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