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Call me old fashioned, call me sexist, but if I was in a combat situation, seeing a woman taking a 7.62 in the face would have a whole different effect on me than seeing a man take one.

Could that be a negative... dangerous?
 
wayneL said:
Call me old fashioned, call me sexist, but if I was in a combat situation, seeing a woman taking a 7.62 in the face would have a whole different effect on me than seeing a man take one.

Could that be a negative... dangerous?
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I suppose that would depend on whether you were gay or not. :D

But yes, I think most men's natural instinct is to protect women and so seeing a woman shot would have a greater impact that seeing a man shot, but maybe it might spur him to fight harder for revenge perhaps ?

One thing that hasn't been mentioned is women getting captured and all the things that could be done to them. How would they be trained to resist that ?
 
"Give em a go".
Women playing US football...

Female high school quarterback throws TD on 1st pass in varsity game
  • By Katie Kindelan
Sep 1, 2017, 4:03 PM ET
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John Landers
WATCH Female high school quarterback throws TD pass in 1st

A 16-year-old high school junior became the first female quarterback from her school, and possibly in the state of Florida, to throw a touchdown pass in a game.

Holly Neher, of Hollywood Hills High School in South Florida, threw a 42-yard touchdown pass Thursday in the fourth quarter of her team’s 21-7 loss to Hallandale High School.

“I started jumping up and down. My teammates started jumping on me,” Holly told ABC News of the reaction. “Coaches were screaming from the sidelines. Everyone started hitting me on the helmet.”

Holly, the only girl on her school’s 50-member varsity team, was playing in her first-ever varsity game and threw the touchdown on the first pass attempt.

http://abcnews.go.com/Lifestyle/female-high-school-quarterback-throws-td-1st-pass/story?id=49564020
 
SirRumpole said:
But yes, I think most men's natural instinct is to protect women and so seeing a woman shot would have a greater impact that seeing a man shot, but maybe it might spur him to fight harder for revenge perhaps ?

One thing that hasn't been mentioned is women getting captured and all the things that could be done to them. How would they be trained to resist that ?
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I suppose one could go back to WW2 and research how women were treated and responded to torture by the Gestapo/SS when they were captured as Resistance fighters/supporters.
 
basilio said:
I suppose one could go back to WW2 and research how women were treated and responded to torture by the Gestapo/SS when they were captured as Resistance fighters/supporters.
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Possibly, but they weren't members of a national army who have to be trained for contingencies.
 

New U.S. combat policy affirms role women already play
U.S. female troops were serving alongside combat units in Afghanistan and Iraq long before the Pentagon lifted a ban on the practice.
February 18, 2013|By Alexandra Zavis, Los Angeles Times
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Sgt. Diana Garcia attends a briefing before going on a mission with members… (Alexandra Zavis / Los Angeles…)
FORWARD OPERATING BASE PASAB, Afghanistan — They fly troops into combat, drive convoys down mine-riddled roads and take part in foot patrols in the heartland of the Taliban-led insurgency.

For American women serving at military bases across Afghanistan, there was nothing extraordinary about the recent Pentagon decision to lift the official ban on women in direct combat roles.

"We're already here," said Army Capt. Kelly Hasselman, 28, of Broken Arrow, Okla., who commands a company of female soldiers that deployed with infantry in the southern province of Kandahar to build relations with rural Afghan women. "It's just not officially been in the books."

U.S. commanders say that military policy was out of step with the reality of two wars with virtually no front lines. Women, who make up about 15% of the active-duty military, have faced gunfire, bomb blasts and shelling while serving in Iraq and Afghanistan — in some cases without leaving their bases.

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Two have been awarded the Silver Star, the nation's third-highest medal for gallantry in combat. More than 150 have lost their lives.

Long before Defense Secretary Leon E. Panetta announced that he was lifting a 1994 rule that prevented women from being assigned to units below brigade level whose primary function is direct ground combat, female troops were serving alongside such units at outposts in some of the most heavily contested regions of Iraq and Afghanistan.

Stretched by more than a decade of war, the Army and Marine Corps for years sidestepped official policy by "attaching," rather than assigning, women to infantry and special operations units because their skills were needed.

When soldiers from the 3rd Battalion, 41st Infantry Regiment, deployed in December to this dusty base in Zhari, the Kandahar district where the Taliban was born, they brought with them an eight-member "female engagement team" drawn from Hasselman's company. Women also serve in the battalion as medics, in the logistics and personnel sections and in the motor pool.

"Gender, height, weight, religion, sexual preference, race — I don't care," said the battalion commander, Lt. Col. Thomas Anderson. "It all comes down to your ability to do what the Army asks you to do."

http://articles.latimes.com/2013/feb/18/world/la-fg-us-women-combat-20130219
 
Another reason why women soldiers want to be allowed to go into combat roles.
Female soldiers fight Pentagon in court for combat positions
Two highly trained female soldiers contend that the exclusion of women from combat posts is unconstitutional.
October 11, 2012|By David Zucchino, Los Angeles Times
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Army Col. Ellen Haring and another female soldier have sued the Pentagon,… (David Zucchino, Los Angeles…)


BRISTOW, Va. — Last year, Army Col. Ellen Haring thought she was finally getting her dream job. She was selected to supervise female soldiers who search and interview Afghan women in combat zones for special operations units.

Haring spent three months training at Ft. Bragg, N.C. Then, just before she was to deploy to Afghanistan, she got a phone call from a staff officer. "Ma'am, we don't think you're qualified," she recalled him saying.

The job went to a lower-ranking male officer. Haring was outraged. "How could I not be qualified?" she said. "I'd already been thoroughly vetted just to get to Ft. Bragg."

No one would give her a reason, she said. But she believed it was her lack of experience in combat, denied because she's a woman.

http://articles.latimes.com/2012/oct/11/nation/la-na-women-combat-20121012
 
Not arguing that women are not valuable assets to the army. They do have unique skillsets.
But "give em a go" attitude is what gets people killed.

That girl that threw the pass was in for the last 20 or so seconds of the game. She has a average pass, but got the job done. About a foot too short for a qb as well. But week in, week out, how long would she last without the rest of the team having to work overtime?
That example was basically someone throwing a ball in the last 20 seconds.

Thats the thing. All these bs examples of women supposedly being on par with men in the physical stakes, when in reality its not.
Women can excel in areas a lot better then men. But the whole package must be looked at as well as negatives for the team.

I'd be for all female teams. But not mixed gender.
 
basilio said:
I suppose one could go back to WW2 and research how women were treated and responded to torture by the Gestapo/SS when they were captured as Resistance fighters/supporters.
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You can research in Iraq or Afghanistan.
 
basilio said:
"Give em a go".
Women playing US football...

Female high school quarterback throws TD on 1st pass in varsity game
  • By Katie Kindelan
Sep 1, 2017, 4:03 PM ET
holly-neher-ht-01-jpo-170901_12x5_992.jpg

John Landers
WATCH Female high school quarterback throws TD pass in 1st

A 16-year-old high school junior became the first female quarterback from her school, and possibly in the state of Florida, to throw a touchdown pass in a game.

Holly Neher, of Hollywood Hills High School in South Florida, threw a 42-yard touchdown pass Thursday in the fourth quarter of her team’s 21-7 loss to Hallandale High School.

“I started jumping up and down. My teammates started jumping on me,” Holly told ABC News of the reaction. “Coaches were screaming from the sidelines. Everyone started hitting me on the helmet.”

Holly, the only girl on her school’s 50-member varsity team, was playing in her first-ever varsity game and threw the touchdown on the first pass attempt.

http://abcnews.go.com/Lifestyle/female-high-school-quarterback-throws-td-1st-pass/story?id=49564020
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Uh huh.

Australia’s National Women’s Soccer Team Lose 7-0 To A Bunch Of 15-Year-Old Boys

https://www.dailywire.com/news/6072...ns-soccer-team-lose-7-0-amanda-prestigiacomo#

http://www.abc.net.au/news/2016-05-28/matildas-face-backlash-after-loss-to-boys-team/7456458

Stop watching Wonder Woman or Atomic Blonde.
 
moXJO said:
That girl that threw the pass was in for the last 20 or so seconds of the game. She has a average pass, but got the job done. About a foot too short for a qb as well. But week in, week out, how long would she last without the rest of the team having to work overtime?
That example was basically someone throwing a ball in the last 20 seconds.
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I think thats inaccurate MoXJO.
Holly Neher wasn't picked as QB for the school gridiron team because she was a 5'2", "average pass" girl. The coach thought she had better skills, judgement, poise and mental strength than any other candidates.
She had played football for many years. She just thought she should have a go at the boys team.

On anyones estimate a 42 yard touchdown pass is quality work. She doesn't need the team to support her any more than they do for other QB - protecting her from tackles and offering good position for passes.

I agree it's (very) unlikely she will end up as a college pro QB. But don't demean what is an exceptional achievement. And who knows. Perhaps the example will inspire other girls to have a go and other coaches and teams to think twice before routinely laughing off the idea.

In terms of mixed team sports I think QB (or possibly punter) in gridiron are the only two roles a women could conceivably play. It is a very tough game. (Mind you Holly is no powder puff)
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Overall playing with the men in a gridiron game is a bit too courougeous for a 5"2 girl. But then Tony Liberatore was only 5' 4" played 283 games for the Bulldogs and won B&F in the Under 19's, Reserves and Seniors. (Only player to win all three medals)
 

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basilio said:
I think thats inaccurate MoXJO.
Holly Neher wasn't picked as QB for the school gridiron team because she was a 5'2", "average pass" girl. The coach thought she had better skills, judgement, poise and mental strength than any other candidates.
She had played football for many years. She just thought she should have a go at the boys team.

On anyones estimate a 42 yard touchdown pass is quality work. She doesn't need the team to support her any more than they do for other QB - protecting her from tackles and offering good position for passes.

I agree it's (very) unlikely she will end up as a college pro QB. But don't demean what is an exceptional achievement. And who knows. Perhaps the example will inspire other girls to have a go and other coaches and teams to think twice before routinely laughing off the idea.

In terms of mixed team sports I think QB (or possibly punter) in gridiron are the only two roles a women could conceivably play. It is a very tough game. (Mind you Holly is no powder puff)
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Overall playing with the men in a gridiron game is a bit too courougeous for a 5"2 girl. But then Tony Liberatore was only 5' 4" played 283 games for the Bulldogs and won B&F in the Under 19's, Reserves and Seniors. (Only player to win all three medals)
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Exceptional for a girl. But thats not what we are judging it on. And not something it should be judged on. Or something I like saying.
And in my opinion it was average. Receiver had to turn and work, probably a bit short as well.
Tony was short but men have insane upper body strength compared to women. That is fact.

I don't really care about mixed gender sports. Go for it. Women in the air force, go for it. But as for being grunts or spec ops that have to work deep in enemy territory, then I'm against it.
At the end of the day, I don't want dead kids shipped home over pc gender pushing. Studies show its not wise in the first place.

As military tech advances, my opinion might change.
 
TikoMike said:
Transgender footballer Hannah Mouncey has been granted permission by the AFL to play in the VFLW for the 2018 season.

http://www.news.com.au/sport/afl/ha...y/news-story/61350d5a29c1bd7ae54297308b6b78aa

I feel sorry for the women in this sport, this "woman" is going to plough right through them.

The lunatics are taking over the asylum. The asylum being Australia.
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Yeah I saw that person on tv and when they said he was transgender I thought "rubbish he's a bloke".

Is he going to lose his body mass as a woman ? If not I don't think its fair to the real women.
 
SirRumpole said:
Yeah I saw that person on tv and when they said he was transgender I thought "rubbish he's a bloke".

Is he going to lose his body mass as a woman ? If not I don't think its fair to the real women.
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Well the guy represented Australia in the Olympics as a MAN. If he was taking oestrogen from when he was a child then maybe it is doable, but "she" has now developed fully as a man.

Apparently this is an image of "her" without the wig and in stubbies.

https://scontent-syd2-1.xx.fbcdn.ne...=80031683fa5172f104d96aadad696cdc&oe=5B11B34A
 
TikoMike said:
Transgender footballer Hannah Mouncey has been granted permission by the AFL to play in the VFLW for the 2018 season.

http://www.news.com.au/sport/afl/ha...y/news-story/61350d5a29c1bd7ae54297308b6b78aa

I feel sorry for the women in this sport, this "woman" is going to plough right through them.

The lunatics are taking over the asylum. The asylum being Australia.
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I'd like to comment, but feel I can't for fear of social media backlash and an overpowering feeling of worthlessness.:(
 
TikoMike said:
Transgender footballer Hannah Mouncey has been granted permission by the AFL to play in the VFLW for the 2018 season.

http://www.news.com.au/sport/afl/ha...y/news-story/61350d5a29c1bd7ae54297308b6b78aa

I feel sorry for the women in this sport, this "woman" is going to plough right through them.

The lunatics are taking over the asylum. The asylum being Australia.
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I wonder when the feminists will wake up to the truth that women are being mocked by this rampant stupidity.

The parasites have latched themselves onto women's natural empathetic susceptibility and used them to advance things like gay marriage, gender bending and any other aberrant lifestyle fad choices.

What is unfathomable is the vastness of males who seem to have been afflicted by congenital castration and happy to swap their remnant manliness for traditional female mannerisms....and I'm just talking about hipsters and greens.:troll:
 
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Tisme said:
I wonder when the feminists will wake up to the truth that women are being mocked by this rampant stupidity.

The parasites have latched themselves onto women's natural empathetic susceptibility and used them to advance things like gay marriage, gender bending and any other aberrant lifestyle fad choices.

What is unfathomable is the vastness of males who seem to have been afflicted by congenital castration and happy to swap their remnant manliness for traditional female mannerisms....and I'm just talking about hipsters and greens.:troll:
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Actually a lot of feminists are against trans claiming to be female.
"How dare males try and claim victim status" kinda deal.
 
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