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Did some one mention WA weather, Perth is dry as all set to go boom

Update from that annoying Marxist, letfestspitlle organisation that no doubts fiddles with the data note the lack of water this year (purple line) and please look away from the pre 1975 average least you become infected with the dreaded...........climate change facts.........

Oh cyclones, please note insurance in the North West has increased due to increase risk of cyclone intensity could some one get said companies to pointlessly argue with PR lest they be branded cowards?

Cheers.....carry on

 
I grew up in Perth bro, Perth was always dry in November.

Relatives report farmers having had a good season but I haven't seen the actual rainfall figures, would be interested in those.

Dammit, I remember seasons that started as late as August and disaster crops way back in the 80s. Equally I remember bumper crops and farmers bulging at the pockets.
 

Members of my family have been farming since the 50's, technology and science have a lot to do with crop returns these days Kojonup are going to have a good year not sure of the northern and eastern wheatbelt year to date rainfall in down.
 
IFocus said:
please look away from the pre 1975 average
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The abrupt step changes in south-west WA rainfall, which are also observed at the same times in Tasmania, are one of the more intriguing changes to have occurred.

There's no gradual trend, it's just "bang" someone flicked a switch and here's a permanent change. Not even slightly gradual, it happened just like that.

It's more severe in WA but the same can be seen in Tas at the same times which rules out any purely local factors as the cause.

In both cases the change is basically the almost complete elimination of higher rainfall months or years, thus pushing down the average, with no real change in what constitutes a "dry" month or year. Eg in Tas the wettest years have all but disappeared, thus lowering the average, but the lowest on record hasn't got any lower when measured over a large area (as distinct from an individual town etc) and that was back in 1967. So it's not an increase in dry as such but an absence of wet periods.
 
Interesting rainfall map..Esperance get a reasonable rainfall ...Albany reminds me of Robe in SA ...if you wanted to move for the climate I would pick there.Robe is invariably the coolest place in SA ...north wind seems to come across bay. They say Esperance has a mining railway thru the mi
 
Thru the middle of town...kind of spoils a nice place.(didn't all come out previous post)
 
chiff said:
Thru the middle of town...kind of spoils a nice place.(didn't all come out previous post)
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Its a very nice area but can get extremes of weather as the fronts sweep thought over 40 one day and below 20 the next also plenty of wind, Albany is much more temperate.
 
IFocus said:
Its a very nice area but can get extremes of weather as the fronts sweep thought over 40 one day and below 20 the next also plenty of wind, Albany is much more temperate.
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That southerly buster can be bloody unpleasant in winter though. Still, it's a nice spot
 
We are in real trouble now:-

"Bushfires devastate rare and enchanting wildlife as 'permanently wet' forests burn for first time"

/www.abc.net.au/news/2019-11-27/bushfires-devastate-ancient-forests-and-rare-wildlife/11733956?pfmredir=sm&amp%3Bsf224684165=1&fbclid=IwAR2OkB5Gn7wu0K3cpaMux-bw_IwRElZSoUK7jpPzpVc3hUiFuc0IBMSyvE8

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The rainforests along the spine of the Great Dividing Range, between the Hunter River and southern Queensland, are remnants of Gondwana, the ancient supercontinent that broke up about 180 million years ago.

"Listening to the dawn chorus in these forests is literally an acoustic window back in time," ecologist Mark Graham tells RN's Saturday Extra.

"It's like listening to what the world sounded like in the time of the dinosaurs."

The forests are mountaintop islands that have been "permanently wet" for tens of millions of years.

But now, these forests are being burnt for the first time"
 
Amazing how correct kids can be when the follow the science.

For some climate systems, the window to act may have already closed, scientists say, urging immediate action


It's time to listen to the kids, one of the authors said.
(ABC News: Danielle Bonica)
In protests around the world this year, kids on strike from school have been setting the agenda on climate change.


Key points:



    • It may already be too late to stop parts of the Antarctic ice sheet from melting completely
    • Tipping points are likely to happen at between 1C and 2C, and we're on track to hit 3C
    • The Amazon rainforest, coral reef systems and Greenland are all feared to be approaching points of no return
And their key message has been that we're facing a "climate emergency" and we need to act now.

They've been accused of overcooking it. They've been told to stay in school and to let the adults sort it out.

But the kids are right. The world is now dangerously close to tipping points that will set in motion unstoppable ecosystem collapses. This is a climate emergency.

That's the message from scientists writing in Nature today, who say that for some systems, the window to act may have already closed.
A decade ago, it was widely thought that most tipping points wouldn't be reached until around 5 degrees Celsius of warming, but now evidence is mounting that they're more likely to happen at between 1C and 2C above pre-industrial levels, according to Will Steffen from ANU's Climate Change Institute, one of the authors of the paper.
Currently we're at a global average of about 1C degree of warming.

"The more we learn, the riskier it looks," Professor Steffen said.
https://www.abc.net.au/news/science/2019-11-28/climate-emergency-kids-are-right/11735942
 
Hard to put up a like Bas but it is too late and accelerating.

It's going to be very tough for my eight grandchildren and I now try to switch off as its just too sad.
 
explod said:
Hard to put up a like Bas but it is too late and accelerating.

It's going to be very tough for my eight grandchildren and I now try to switch off as its just too sad.
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It is tough.. Perhaps I should put up some cat/dog clips to lighten the mood?
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Interestingly enough I saw a Ross Gaurnaut presentation this week. He has put together a book called Superpower which outlines ho Australia can become a renewable energy powerhouse in Asia .

The book pulls together a series of lectures he did earlier this year.

It's very good. His research and analysis is excellent. It is a very persuasive outline of why, on an economic basis alone, Australia has a great future using renewable energy for all local and international industrial/commercial/domestic activity.

He is not blind to the consequences of global warming. He doesn't pretend they are not happening or indeed might not overwhelm us.

He does offer a powerful, constructive approach to tackle the issue and is showing business interest the opportunities available.

Well worth a read and support IMV.
https://www.rossgarnaut.com.au/australian-economy/superpower-australias-low-carbon-opportunity/
 
Review of spring weather in Australia in 2019 of 2019.

Australia endures its driest and second-hottest spring on record
Climate records were broken across the country as the spring of 2019 was dominated by drought and bushfires

Australia has experienced its driest spring on record and its second-hottest in terms of maximum temperatures, only 0.04C behind the record set in 2014.

An average of only 27.4mm of rain fell across the nation for the season, according to the Bureau of Meteorology, while temperature records tumbled from coast to coast as the country endured severe and catastrophic bushfires.

The driest spring on record follows the hottest ever summer, the third-warmest autumn, the sixth-warmest winter, the hottest March on record, the third-hottest July, and the hottest month ever recorded in Australia (January 2019).


In November, the intense heat, bone-dry conditions and high winds meant catastrophic fire danger levels were declared for parts of New South Wales, Western Australia, South Australia and in the Greater Sydney region for the first time.

Catastrophic is the highest level of fire danger, the equivalent of the conditions on the day of the 2009 Black Saturday bushfires, which were Australia’s deadliest.

https://www.theguardian.com/austral...ts-driest-and-second-hottest-spring-on-record
 
Someone had better put some precipitators and scrubbers on this puppy in Kagoshima. The locals spend all day sweeping up ash, the EPA would have been all over us at the Power Station.

 
I hope Bas, that you have thrown caution to the wind and bought an electric car, to save us.
Over here in Japan, they have a much bigger population than us and they give plastic bags away like no ones business. lol
A lot of perception management going on in Australia. IMO
 
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