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Prospector said:
Oh, I am in love! I am the proud owner of a 16gb Iphone and it is sweet!:D

Arrived at around 8am, and had already prepaid the deposit as an Optus customer. There were maybe four people in the priority queue and 10 in the other queue. I waited perhaps 20 minutes as the priority queue were served first, and got the last 16gb. Black 16gb were the first to go and had been sold out, white 16gb sold out with me :p: but there were plenty of 8gb in black and white. It took maybe 10 minutes as I was out of plan and with a business account it was quick to sign up. Delays occurred where people wanted to break their contract as the system was totally overloaded. Those who just wanted to buy outright were in and out within minutes.

Now, if only I can figure out how to make and receive calls, all will be good!:eek:
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Any idea what they were paying for the outright cost?

Thanks

Nick--
 
njc.corp said:
Any idea what they were paying for the outright cost?

Thanks

Nick--
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Only Optus will sell them outright,and unblocking them and from memory the 8gig was around $750 and the 16gb about $50 more; then you pay an additional $70 if you want to use them on another network.
 
no mms.

How are you supposed to send drunk photos of your nether regions to your mates?

:D

hang on

:cautious:

LOL
 
Pictures like these.

Apologies to apple fanboys in advance..
 

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First Reviews: iPhone 3G Improved, but Still Flawed
Reviewers fault battery life, 3G coverage, and service-plan costs. But the sound quality and download speeds are much improved.
Edward N. Albro (PC World (US online)) 10/07/2008 16:08:43


Is the iPhone 3G worth waiting in line for? Early reviewers of Apple's new smart phone are mostly positive, but they share some common gripes about battery life and two aspects of dealing with AT&T: the service-plan costs and the skimpy 3G coverage areas.

The New York Times' David Pogue, the Wall Street Journal's Walt Mossberg, and USA Today's Ed Baig, the Holy Trinity of Apple's marketing department, all received the phone about two weeks ago. (Most other reviewers, including ours, will have to wait with everyone else to buy one Friday morning.) All three reviewers liked the first-generation iPhone, and they all like the second generation even better.

(The folks at our sister publication PC World New Zealand lived with a new iPhone 3G for a short time; they also have slightly mixed impressions, but generally liked the phone.)

Pogue's bottom line: "So the iPhone 3G is a nice upgrade. It more than keeps pace with advancing technology, and new buyers will generally be delighted."

Mossberg concludes: "If you've been waiting to buy an iPhone until it dropped in price, or ran on faster cell networks, you might want to take the plunge, if you can live with the higher service costs and the weaker battery life."

Baig is more effusive: "... this handheld marvel has no equal among consumer-oriented smartphones."

Mixed in with the raves are a fair number of complaints, however.

The 3G network: Mossberg says downloads were three to five times faster on the 3G iPhone than on the standard iPhone. Baig accepts Apple's claims that the new phone is twice as fast as the old version; loading popular Web sites took 10 to 30 seconds, he says. But all three reviewers complain about holes in AT&T's 3G coverage, despite the fact that they're all based in and around New York. Imagine what the coverage will be like in rural Iowa.

Actually, David Pogue did more than imagine. He points out that, according to AT&T's 3G coverage map, "in 16 states, only three cities or fewer are covered; 10 states have no coverage at all." And you guessed it, Iowa is one of them.

Mossberg says he found problems even in Manhattan: "In New York City, riding in a taxi along the Hudson, one important call was dropped three times on the new iPhone. Finally, I borrowed a cheap Verizon phone and got perfect reception."

Battery life: Mossberg's tests found that the iPhone 3G delivered 4 hours, 27 minutes of talk time. "More important," he says, "in daily use, I found the battery indicator on the new 3G model slipping below 20% by early afternoon or midafternoon on some days, and it entirely ran out of juice on one day."

As with the first iPhone, you can't replace the battery in the iPhone 3G, meaning you have to charge early and often--or use workarounds. Mossberg says he used Wi-Fi instead of 3G for data transactions, turned down the screen brightness, and at times turned 3G off entirely to save juice.

Cost: All three reviewers point out that despite a drop in the cost of the iPhone itself, having one will end up costing you more than owning a first-gen iPhone. That's a result of increases in the cost of AT&T's phone and data plans. Though you save $200 on the phone, you'll pay $240 more for the service over the life of the two-year contract you must purchase, Mossberg writes.

GPS: The bottom line on the iPhone's new GPS capabilities is that they're nice but limited. Pogue points out that they can't provide turn-by-turn directions, merely showing you as a blue spot moving along a map--and sometimes they can't even do that. "The metal of a car or the buildings of Manhattan are often enough to block the iPhone's view of the sky, leaving it just as confused as you are," he writes.

Business support: Apple has boasted that the new iPhone will work much better with corporate e-mail servers. Baig reports on connecting the iPhone 3G to his company's e-mail network, and he comes away impressed. "Messages and calendar entries are 'pushed' to the device, so they show up right away, just as they do on other computers. With your employer's blessing, set-up is a relative cinch."

Mossberg points out a potentially serious problem, though: "While you can have both personal and Exchange email accounts on the new iPhone, if you synchronize with Exchange calendars and contacts, your personal calendar and contacts are erased."

Third-party apps: Mossberg and Baig tried a few early iPhone apps and liked what they found. Baig says Cro-Mag, a caveman racing game that uses the phone's accelerometer to steer, is "difficult but fun." Mossberg believes "the iPhone has a chance to become a true computing platform with wide versatility."

Audio quality: All the reviewers comment on the new iPhone's improved audio quality. "You sound crystal clear to your callers, and they sound crystal clear to you. In fact, few cellphones sound this good," Pogue raves. Mossberg concurs, but complains that "the new phone produced an echo when used with the built-in Bluetooth system in my car."

What's still missing: The consensus is that the iPhone still has some significant deficiencies.

* No voice dialing
* No video recording
* A limited camera
* No memory-card slot
* No copy-and-paste function
* No MMS for sending photos to other phones
* No Bluetooth stereo audio
* No support for Adobe Flash, Windows Media Video, or Java

None of those complaints, though, seriously dim the reviewers' admiration of the new iPhone. "While not everything on my wish list made it onto the new device," Baig says, "Apple has raised the bar with iPhone 3G. To which I offer an enthusiastic thumbs up."
 
Prospector said:
Oh, I am in love! I am the proud owner of a 16gb Iphone and it is sweet!:D
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Hi P.

Would you be kind enough to give us your review on it, and if you find any share market apps, would like to hear about them as well...

p.s Hope you didn't spend all your FDL(FMS) profits with Apple.

Thanks
SevenFX
 
The main issue with the iPhone for me is proprietry software / hardware. As with all Apple consumer products.

Wait for "Android" to kick off.
http://code.google.com/android/

Andoid is open source for phones. Think linux for computers. The basic idea is that you will be able to donwload your own applications for whatever purpose you need. Don't like your SMS program on your phone - fine! Download a new one or even write your own if you like!

I have seen an app that combines your phone book with google maps. Now that is something tricky for a phone!

Your Android enabled phone doesn't do MMS? Simple, throw it in the bin ;) and go buy an Android enabled phone with MMS!! Got to love the openness.

Now that is the ultimate geek toy!
 
What about good old Symbian , OS for mobiles from ever reliable Nokia. It is free too and known to work flawlessly, supported by all major mobile manufacturers.


Android will be loosing a lot sooner than anticipated.

Wait and see, out of OSX, Windows mobile , Androind and symbian who will win?
My vote is with symbian because it is linux based, free (will be in a few months) and supported by all manufacturers.

Now back to topic.
 
Prospector said:
Only Optus will sell them outright,and unblocking them and from memory the 8gig was around $750 and the 16gb about $50 more; then you pay an additional $70 if you want to use them on another network.
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okay-thought voda also sold them out-right-

thanks for the quick reply-

hows the phone going so far-

Thanks

Nick--
 
njc.corp said:
okay-thought voda also sold them out-right-

thanks for the quick reply-

hows the phone going so far-

Thanks

Nick--
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Well, it is really hectic at work at the moment, but I have texted my now very jealous 18 year old and the phone shows all the 'conversations' I have had with him. Wouldnt you know it but he tells me his new phone broke down about an hour after I got the Iphone! yeah right kiddo!

I love the keyboard entry for SMS'ing, you can actually see the letters, although you need to be careful selecting the correct letter on the edges. A QWERTY keyboard. I have connected to our wireless network at work but havent managed to get onto the Internet yet. There is an automatic share analyser but until I can get into the internet I can't access it.

It seems quite intuitive, but also with some funny quirks, like to scroll down you dash the finger up. It seems a little fragile and will have to get a case immediately - I still have the protective plastic on it now, but that won't help if I drop it. Must get the manual out and read it....and also download Itunes so I can transfer all my songs over. And pictures - taking photos is excellent as you can move it sideways and it gives a huge picture even I can see. Ah, guess what I will be playing with while Mr P watches the footy, all weekend!

To the silly person who said that to stop inflation dont buy the Iphone, I think the way our investment loan repayments have increased in the last 12 months, our payments alone should have dropped it by at least 1%!!!!
 
njc.corp said:
The blackberry is a cool and easy phone to use-

the 8000+ series is very keypad freindly-

i use my 2 fingers to type with ease-

has the n95 ever froze up?
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Yeah, the phone has frozen up, but that happened with the earlier firmware. ever since the software was upgraded. it now runs faster and is bug free. The text conversations feature that the iPhone has is available for the n95. you just need to download it. In fact there are whole communinites that are dedicated to making cool software for the n95.

As for the iPhone, its my understanding that Apple doesn't let users mod their phones software, thereby limiting what it can do.
 
Well, I have played with it so much I flattened the batteries, then couldnt work out how to charge it except by USB to the PC. I thought there was something missing from the box so rang Optus store this morning. It seems you have to connect the two adapters together which makes for a large chunky beast, then connect the phone by USB to the beast, then charge it. Not exactly designed for compact travel esp if overseas and you also need an outlet charger.

But it is a fun toy, and last night managed to get onto the internet but haven't yet mastered how to zoom in. Tried to post here but maybe the site was down? Also bought a screen cover this morning, downloaded itunes (we have Creative mp3's and not Ipod's!) and will need to convert all my songs to apple format.

The store said they sold out at 11am and expect more in 7 - 10 days. The first stock didnt arrive until 8pm the day before sale; and most staff were only given a 30 minute play before the launch, so most really weren't familiar with how it works.

OK, I have about 2 hours work to get the phone fully functional. Apparently Apple has released several freebie softwares on its itune store, off to check them out now!
 
I probably won't be getting an iPhone.

Reasons:
1. Apple has great innovative technology, however when it comes to the actual gadgets themselves, I've heard too many stories of frozen iPods and the like.

2. The price is not worth it.
 
Interesting to find out recently this new IPhone 3G not only cant MMS, but can't transfer files via bluetooth either.

The spin doctors from Apple must be on annual leave, as the craze in couple of Apple reseller shops seems to have died quickly, given they have to be special ordered, and not held in stock.

Hope it can take Calls... LOL :D
 

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