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[Tisme]

Cry me a river, Calliope has a heart.

Racist! Need I continue?

 

[luutzu]

Racist! Need I continue?

Soooo... you're telling Macquack you're not a racist? Were offended to be thought such? That you hold no supremacist view of yourself based on your blood and skin colour? That anyone who thinks a person's race or religion automatically make them superior or otherwise more "civilised" is an idiot?

Other members might be suprised to hear that from you McGee

 

[basilio]

Soooo... you're telling Macquack you're not a racist? Were offended to be thought such? That you hold no supremacist view of yourself based on your blood and skin colour? That anyone who thinks a person's race or religion automatically make them superior or otherwise more "civilised" is an idiot?

Other members might be suprised to hear that from you McGee

Surprise, surprise, surprise..

 

[SirRumpole]

That anyone who thinks a person's race or religion automatically make them superior or otherwise more "civilised" is an idiot?

People who tend to rely on a God, spirits or external forces to provide their needs are more likely to be technologically and scientifically retarded in comparison to those who have enquiring minds and take nothing for granted. That doesn't make them anatomically inferior, it's their belief systems that are holding them back.

 

[luutzu]

People who tend to rely on a God, spirits or external forces to provide their needs are more likely to be technologically and scientifically retarded in comparison to those who have enquiring minds and take nothing for granted. That doesn't make them anatomically inferior, it's their belief systems that are holding them back.

Belief systems and military occupation/colonisation.

Look at any poor and impoverished country in the world today. The thing they all have in common is not their religion or their skin colour. It's European colonialism, then Japanese/Soviet, then American "free trade".

Take the Philippines or Indonesia in the 70s, 80s and 90s... Their dictator sign contracts on the country's behalf to the tune of billions of dollars - billions back when that was real money. Pocket some of it, the rest goes to US multinationals...

Were those debt forgiven? Nope. Were they "odious debt", i.e. debt signed on by dictators for themselves and not on behalf of their country? Yes... but debt is debt and so pay up, or else!

That's not blaming Western civilisation, that's just pointing out facts that great men of destiny do enslave people to enrich themselves. Then fellow Westerners have to pay taxes for such liberation and also dig into their own pocket to sponsor children left from the effort.

 

[Tisme]

Soooo... you're telling Macquack you're not a racist? Were offended to be thought such? That you hold no supremacist view of yourself based on your blood and skin colour? That anyone who thinks a person's race or religion automatically make them superior or otherwise more "civilised" is an idiot?

Other members might be suprised to hear that from you McGee

Hey, I'm just pointing out a hater hypocrite who uses his own endemic racism as a means to discredit others he disagrees with on totally unrelated matters. I'm not ashamed of my gene pool and I certainly don't expect denial racists to understand irony, tongue in cheek and apparently other difficult concepts, especially if their genome has a missing link, through not fault but their ancestors.

You know this because you promote and apologise for the Chinese all the time. We get Bas and VC who enjoy the Anglo "fair and fairness" and "Western Modernity" freedom of speech to argue the toss for anything that isn't root austral/anglo western, all the time. Apparently those betrayals of our culture are quite permissible.

Surprise, surprise, surprise Bas

 

[basilio]

Ah Tisme the old "I was just ironical, tongue in cheek actually" line. But of course "I'm not a racist, it was just a joke and how dare you suggest otherwise."

That must be your favourite really. After each particularly revolting comment on women ( Clemintine Ford in particular ) Muslims, blacks whatever you trot out that piece of specious drivel with unrelenting fervour.

You are a good learner however. In fact that particular "I'm ironical, thats a joke!" line is number x in the Daily Stormer's guide book for good racist banter and how to suck in the punters.

This Is The Daily Stormer's Playbook
A leaked style guide reveals they’re Nazis about grammar (and about Jews).
14/12/2017 8:00 AM AEDT | Updated 14/12/2017 11:19 AM AEDT
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• Ashley Feinberg Senior Reporter, HuffPost

http://www.huffingtonpost.com.au/entry/daily-stormer-nazi-style-guide_us_5a2ece19e4b0ce3b344492f2

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Back in September, Vox Day, a Gamergate holdover who has assumed the position of racist alt-right figurehead, published a handful of brief excerpts from what he described as the “Andrew Anglin” style guide. For the blissfully unaware, Anglin is a neo-Nazi troll and propagandist who runs The Daily Stormer, one of the more prominent sites of the white supremacist web. The passages selected by Vox Day in his blog post suggested that Anglin is persnickety about detail and presentation ― except on the subject of the Jews, who are to be blamed “for everything.”

HuffPost has acquired the 17-page document in its entirety, as well as transcripts from an IRC channel where the document was shared in an effort to recruit new writers. It’s more than a style guide for writing internet-friendly neo-Nazi prose; it’s a playbook for the alt-right.

The style guide, according to Vox Day, was a set of directives for whoever might be writing under Anglin’s name, the idea being that Anglin’s army of ghostwriters need to maintain some sense of consistent style. But the guide appears to be for all of the site’s writers, many of whom write under their own names (or at least their own pseudonyms).

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They also take pains to try and not turn off any readers who might be just starting to flirt with white supremacy. Again, this manifests itself in a concerted effort to mix the vicious and the mundane, which mainstream outlets have also accomplished, though entirely by accident.

As for what those racial slurs should be, Anglin is happy to clarify.

Women, of course, get their own set of epithets.

 

[basilio]

A few more eyeopeners from the Daily Stormer writer guide.

The constant line-toeing and the deliberate muddying of intentions and meaning can have a dizzying effect, especially for media outlets that aren’t used to grappling with such bad actors. Anglin knows this, and he is doing everything in his power to exploit it.

Remember this style guide the next time an alt-righter says something so hammily outrageous that you begin to doubt its sincerity. This is by design. The Daily Stormer and other groups like it want you to be unsure if you should take them seriously. Andrew Anglin wants you to think he’s just a troll, that he’s spouting incendiary crap for no other reason than to get a rise out of you. Remember that the irony and the coy misdirection are all in service of tricking people into following him on his path toward a white supremacist state. This is what he believes.

 

[Tisme]

Ah Tisme the old "I was just ironical, tongue in cheek actually" line. But of course "I'm not a racist, it was just a joke and how dare you suggest otherwise."

yadda yadda yadda

Have I not established I am not ashamed of my gene pool?

My guess you have no real connection to Australian lineage, anti Anglo and have an agenda to make sure it loses an identity you could never aspire to? Truth or dare right there.

Of course I bait you and the other idealogues who are ashamed of our national past. What patriot with gonads wouldn't.

It isn't me that hands out the personal insults, it's the immature sheeple victims who think they can with impunity, but then go sissy sulk when they get a serve.

 

[basilio]

Tiseme what you have established over many, many posts is that your posting style of "ironical," overblown white race supremacy is a text book copy of the Daily Stormers guide to promoting and normalising racism on public forums.

Now that could be totally co-incidental. Many people can arrive at similar strategy independently. But I reckon if it looks like a duck, squawks like a duck, and walks like a duck - it's going to be duck for dinner.

 

[luutzu]

Have I not established I am not ashamed of my gene pool?

My guess you have no real connection to Australian lineage, anti Anglo and have an agenda to make sure it loses an identity you could never aspire to? Truth or dare right there.

Of course I bait you and the other idealogues who are ashamed of our national past. What patriot with gonads wouldn't.

It isn't me that hands out the personal insults, it's the immature sheeple victims who think they can with impunity, but then go sissy sulk when they get a serve.

Why should any person, White or otherwise, be ashamed of their heritage, gene pool?

A person can still be proud of their heritage and at the same time not excuse or condone barbaric actions committed by people of the same race long ago.

The crimes or achievements of others are theirs... takes a certain kind of character to recognise the good and the bad, praise the former and criticise the latter.

Hard to excuse certain crimes. No one expects the current generation to take the blame for it... just maybe not excuse or dust it over as though it's a necessary evil and "they all did it".

Kinda like some historian commenting on Columbus... yea, sure, he personally enslave a few hundred thousand natives; sure his arrival lead to the death of some 24 million Native Americans... BUT he's a great sailor though.

It's that kind of bs that led Bush Jr. to proudly say that history will be kinder to him. He might be right about that but he shouldn't be.

To be criticial and blame such people is not to be ashamed of one's gene pool... it's so that a warmongering ahole can't lie his nation into war, can't destroy an entire country or two or three, then just shrugs it to liberal idiots not knowing what great and patriotic men must do.

In short, a person can be critical of war crimes and act of terror without being unpatriotic or shameful of their country.

To see the country doing wrong but excuse it because "our people did it".. .that's either psychotic or sycophantic mistaken for patriotism.

 

[basilio]

Have I not established I am not ashamed of my gene pool?

My guess you have no real connection to Australian lineage, anti Anglo and have an agenda to make sure it loses an identity you could never aspire to?

There is no problem with being proud of ones heritage. It's when being "proud" of ones heritage turns into blind support of everything your country has done. It's when "white pride" then denigrates every other culture as inferior "just not as good" " in fact, pretty well sub-human".

It reminds me of the Cronulla riots egged on by the lies of the shock jocks and ending up with druken Aussies wrapping themselves in Australian flags as they found and flogged any Lebanese they could lay their hands on.

Being proud of your culture doesn't have to make you blind, stupid or nasty.

 

[Tisme]

Tiseme what you have established over many, many posts is that your posting style of "ironical," overblown white race supremacy is a text book copy of the Daily Stormers guide to promoting and normalising racism on public forums.

Now that could be totally co-incidental. Many people can arrive at similar strategy independently. But I reckon if it looks like a duck, squawks like a duck, and walks like a duck - it's going to be duck for dinner.

Not owning up to your roots eh? Kinda weakens your arguments for anti everything Australia was.

Never said I was into white supremacy. There are two distinct issues ... white skinned people are not allowed to express their obvious appearance incase it offends offwhites (you are a perfect example of jumping onto that anti white prejudice just by trying to use racism as a weapon), two Anglo culture is a 4000 year old learned lesson of continuous evolution, of many colours.

 

[Tisme]

There is no problem with being proud of ones heritage. It's when being "proud" of ones heritage turns into blind support of everything your country has done. It's when "white pride" then denigrates every other culture as inferior "just not as good" " in fact, pretty well sub-human".

It reminds me of the Cronulla riots egged on by the lies of the shock jocks and ending up with druken Aussies wrapping themselves in Australian flags as they found and flogged any Lebanese they could lay their hands on.

Being proud of your culture doesn't have to make you blind, stupid or nasty.

I think if we had a bona fide supremacist on this forum I'd be giving him/her jip.

You can't go around loading up people's opinions with your own preconceptions, fears and grievances, unless you are totally closed to the idea that you have room for improvement. Actually you can, but you are really just arguing with you own bogeyman personified by a convenient avatar of Alalfa from Little Rascals.

You shutdown the opportunity of a worthwhile conversation when you use bellicose arguments predicated on hyperbole..... it's like trying to say something to someone yelling chants while holding a protest placard .... nothing gets through because of all the din.

 

[Macquack]

Racist! Need I continue?

Yes, as I have no idea what you are talking about.

Just a couple of quick questions, Tisme.

1. When you go down the pub/pubs that you frequent, do you take your trusty thesaurus with you for conversation?

2. If not, do you carry a stash of dictionaries to hand out to all your buddies?

 

[Tisme]

Yes, as I have no idea what you are talking about.

Just a couple of quick questions, Tisme.

1. When you go down the pub/pubs that you frequent, do you take your trusty thesaurus with you for conversation?

2. If not, do you carry a stash of dictionaries to hand out to all your buddies?

So I am supposed to entertain a monosyllabic troll who has poor comprehension, is illiterate and denigrates educated people.

Instead of venting at me for your lack of english skills, perhaps you should be seeking out your school teachers and ask them why you rec'd second rate training or remedial classes for slow learners.

I think Dick and Dora is still in publication, which should give you a good entry level into English Lit.

 

[Macquack]

So I am supposed to entertain a monosyllabic troll who has poor comprehension, is illiterate and denigrates educated people.

Instead of venting at me for your lack of english skills, perhaps you should be seeking out your school teachers and ask them why you rec'd second rate training or remedial classes for slow learners.

I think Dick and Dora is still in publication, which should give you a good entry level into English Lit.

Have I hit a nerve there?

You have not answered my question, Crypto King.

 

[Tisme]

Have I hit a nerve there?

You have not answered my question, Crypto King.

No I don't get excitables about haters.... they are already in their own kind of hell, so no need for me to stoke the fire. In nutshell you have already shown you enjoy the gutter while I'm more penthouse.

 

[Dona Ferentes]

....oh well, the usual content slippage.

Back on topic: from the BBC...

.." It's well known that women's bodies often become a battleground during riots and conflicts, and rape and sexual assault are used as instruments of violence to punish them.

"The sexual assault of a Kuki mother and daughter duo, who were stripped naked and paraded while being groped and molested by a mob of men in Manipur, is the latest example of that. The video footage showing the women weeping, wincing in pain and begging their attackers to show some mercy is disturbing to watch.

"The fact that the first arrest has been made only after the outrage in the case that happened 78 days ago and was reported to the police more than two months back doesn't inspire much confidence in the administration - more so since many of the men are clearly identifiable in the footage.

"But the massive outrage that has followed the video's emergence in India has put the spotlight on the horrific crime. It has also raised questions about the failure of the state in comforting the survivors - and finally forced Mr Modi to make a statement on the ethnic violence...

Manipur: India outrage after women paraded naked in violence-hit state

PM Narendra Modi said the assault in Manipur state had "shamed" the country.

www.bbc.com